News: NBCSports: Jerry Jones wants Jimmy Johnson, and everyone else, to know who runs the show

[KJJ]

There were still some of his players on that squad

Yes, but some of the key players left like Ken Norton and Alvin Harper just to name a couple. The point is Jerry won a Super Bowl without Jimmy.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Yes, but some of the key players left like Ken Norton and Alvin Harper just to name a couple. The point is Jerry won a Super Bowl without Jimmy.

Quite a stretch to arrive at that conclusion. You won't find many even outside of Cowboys fandom that will agree with your take.

 

[Whyjerry]

How many playoff wins since 1995?

 

[Diehardblues]

Im still surprised it’s safe for him to appear in public. Especially in this state.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Quite a stretch to arrive at that conclusion. You won't find many even outside of Cowboys fandom that will agree with your take.

Jerry wouldn't either or he wouldn't be trying so hard to keep Jimmy out of the ROH. He knows how most fans think.

 

[KJJ]

Quite a stretch to arrive at that conclusion. You won't find many even outside of Cowboys fandom that will agree with your take.

If you follow the discussion I was having with the other fan he claimed that Jerry never won a Super Bowl without Jimmy and he did.

 

[acr731]

If you follow the discussion I was having with the other fan he claimed that Jerry never won a Super Bowl without Jimmy and he did.

Sure, but it was with a team mostly built by Jimmy.

 

[Sarge]

If you follow the discussion I was having with the other fan he claimed that Jerry never won a Super Bowl without Jimmy and he did.

With the players Jimmy assembled Bozo the Clown could have won that Super Bowl. Some say Bozo the Clown did.

 

[cowboyed]

Sure, but it was with a team mostly built by Jimmy.

Both Jerry and Jimmy are alpha males with big egos. They both built an amazing Cowboys team and it was a great partnership until things soured. Jimmy was looking for reasons to move on despite the mutual success. Jimmy wanted more control of the team not only head coaching but also general managing and that's what he got when he went to the Miami Dolphins. Deep down he was always a living in Florida guy. He has been a football analyst longer than he was an NFL head coach and loves his boats and fishing. Jimmy Johnson reminds me of Parcells they both beat to their own drum and don't allow themselves to be anchored to any team lifelong. Jerry Jones and Parcells are 80 and Jimmy is in his late seventies.

 

[charron]

Trust us we know Jerry's ego is in charge. It's cost the cowboys a chance at many more SB's

 

[Cowboys5217]

Jerry wouldn't either or he wouldn't be trying so hard to keep Jimmy out of the ROH. He knows how most fans think.

That is why I believe this grudge is against the fans rather than Jimmy himself. Jimmy is just the mirror fans force Jerry to look at that reminds him that despite his money and privileges in this life there are some things you cannot buy.

Jerry knows most of the fans do not respect him, think he is a moron when it comes to football and his own ego that cost this franchise all time glory in the 1990s and hamstrings it from succeeding because he named himself GM with no more qualification than the average fan in the stands. Heck, most of those fans would eventually get over their own egos, but Jerry is immature so he doubles down on decades long grudges.

 

[Whirlwin]

Yes, but some of the key players left like Ken Norton and Alvin Harper just to name a couple. The point is Jerry won a Super Bowl without Jimmy.

I know, but my point still remains also. They were some key players From Jimmy

 

[DallasEast]

Jerry Jones is a narcissist, with an ego that easily eclipses the norm. HIs personality may be atypical but it is still a personality. Someone's personality is influenced to act upon what it perceives has been done to it.

Justified or not, JImmy Johnson dogged Jones. His narcissism has fueled a grudge for, literally, three decades. There have been more than one occasion where Jones has self-deflected on camera or into a microphone weakly explaining why Johnson has not been inducted into the Ring. He should simply say Johnson was a jerk to him and be done with it but he never does.

On the other hand, the vast majority of fans of Jones' franchise do not dog him within his presence. There are no raucous chants of 'JERRY IS A STUPID GM!' at games. Hecklers do not show up whenever media stops and pushes a microphone in his face and start yelling, "STEP DOWN JERRY!" Etc. Exactly how often does Jones hear an angry caller speaking negatively about him whenever HE calls into a radio show?

What has been Jones' general experience with his franchise's fans?

They show up at games in the tens of thousands.

They buy tens of millions of dollars worth of his merchandise and apparel.

They should up for tours at The Star.

What have fans done collectively over three decades and to a personality like Jones to judge them in a negative light?

I don't know.

I'm going to work.

 

[KJJ]

With the players Jimmy assembled Bozo the Clown could have won that Super Bowl. Some say Bozo the Clown did.

I’m not so sure about that, with the team they had in 95. Free agency had already started to eat away at the team by then. Gone were Alvin Harper, Ken Norton and Jimmie Jones, who was a key contributor in our Super Bowl win in 92. After the Cowboys lost to the 49ers in the 94 NFC title game it looked like their days of winning another Super Bowl were done. By the 95 season the team was two years removed from Jimmy. I’m not going to give him credit for the championship in 95 just because a number of his players were still there. A lot of fans hate Barry Switzer and blame him for the teams demise, but he was a great college coach like Jimmy who kept the team together. The players could’ve very easily quit on him but they didn’t.

 

[KJJ]

Sure, but it was with a team mostly built by Jimmy.

It was a team mostly built by Jimmy, but he wasn’t there and hadn’t been there for two years. We lost Alvin Harper, Ken Norton, and Jimmie Jones, but added Larry Allen under Switzer. To bounce back after the 94 NFC title loss to San Francisco and win that third Super Bowl in 95 the team had to buy into Barry Switzer. That wasn’t as strong a team as we had in 92 and 93. Every coach needs a lot of good players to win. Jimmy went 1-15 when he didn’t have good players. It’s not easy keeping a team together and getting players to keep fighting, when a beloved HC leaves. The Cowboys could have folded tent after Jimmy left.

 

[Sheepherder]

And Dallas isn’t getting to a SB anytime soon.

Not that I am hoping or wishing for Jerry to check out, but I bet when he does he will want to have his funeral at ATT Stajum and charge fans for coming to his viewing. That is how petty he is.

Without the fan base, Jerry has nothing.

The only thing that would change Jerry's tune is if the fans quit buying tickets to watch his team play.

 

[Hadenough]

Nobody cares! Even Jimmy doesn't care!
Everyone knows Jerry is a control freak so let him keep his bag marbles.

 

[Whirlwin]

I’m not so sure about that, with the team they had in 95. Free agency had already started to eat away at the team by then. Gone were Alvin Harper, Ken Norton and Jimmie Jones, who was a key contributor in our Super Bowl win in 92. After the Cowboys lost to the 49ers in the 94 NFC title game it looked like their days of winning another Super Bowl were done. By the 95 season the team was two years removed from Jimmy. I’m not going to give him credit for the championship in 95 just because a number of his players were still there. A lot of fans hate Barry Switzer and blame him for the teams demise, but he was a great college coach like Jimmy who kept the team together. The players could’ve very easily quit on him but they didn’t.

I definitely give Barry Credit for that. All I was trying to say is they were some of the players that Jimmy had still on the team. Significant players

 

[atlantacowboy]

Well, we know that is BS from the multitude of books written about those early years of the Jones era, if you didn't actually live through it. Nobody credible would dispute its been Jerry Jone's show since Jimmy left....... not sure Jerry should be bragging about it.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Chris Simms says the most relevant thing in that entire five-minute embedded video at the 1:37 mark:


That is something this decades long disgruntlement needs from the single individual making Dallas Cowboys Ring of Honor decisions: truth.

Jerry had every opportunity to let the world know his intention with Jimmy. Instead, he just lied and acted like it only a matter of timing.