New Wide Out?...Joe Horn

[BulletBob]

so you think it's just bs to get glenn to sign the injury waiver or you just think it's plain bs?

You nailed it, Rampage. It's a smart business move. It creates (more) leverage/pressure in the Glenn negotiation, and it doesn't cost Mr Jones a thing to float out a trial balloon.

I honestly don't understand why everyone's panties are all in a bunch about our #2 WR - we did incredible offensively without Terry last year.

I guess you could make the argument that if we lose TO, our WR situation is pretty unstable. But couldn't you make that argument with most teams if their #1 WR goes down?

So please stop whining about us not drafting a stud WR in round 2. Our scouts made the (I think) very intelligent assessment that no WR in the draft could step in this year and do better than any of our current young guns who have 2-3 years of the Cowboy's offensive system in their blood.

And what about if Romo goes down? We're screwed. Why isn't everyone screaming about us not drafting a solid backup QB?

I'll tell you why - because most people understand that you cannot have a world-class backup at every position on the field.

Sometimes you guys are like the old Italian lady who's walking around with a huge prosciutto ham under one arm and complaining that she has no loaf of bread under the other arm to make a sang-wich, so she's sooooo hungry.

 

[InmanRoshi]

When everyone was oggling Roy Williams and Anaquin Boldin, I really thought the more likely scenerio is that we end up with a guy like Horn (actually I was hoping more for Lav Coles). Teams aren't giving away young #1 WRs, no matter how badly Cowboy fans believe teams should just give us their good players because it's what's best for us.

No Joe Horn is no longer a great WR, maybe not even a good WR, but in our offensive scheme after Owens gets his 80+ catches, and Witten gets his 70-80 catches, and Crayton gets his 50+ catches, and MB3/Felix get their catches and on down the line .. we really only need around 30 catches, 500 yards from the next WR in line. That's all that may even be feasible, as there are only so many pass targets to go around. We just need someone who can be dependably mediocre, and I do think someone like Horn can provide that in this offense. His last year with the Saints he put up 37 receptions for 679 yards with 4 TDs ... which pretty much falls in line with what we need from that roster spot. And if Austin or Stanback prove they're ready for the big stage, you can just discard Horn (he's essentially just replacing Glenn's roster spot anyway). With all the trading back Jerry did in the draft, we have an abundance of late round picks in next year's draft. Once the compensation picks are awarded for Julius, Reeves, Keith davis, Nate Jones etc. we'll likely likely more late round picks than we can fit on the roster ... so I don't have a problem giving up something like a conditional 6th for some vet insurance.

But people really do need to give up on this "#2 WR" infatuation. Witten is in effect our #2 WR. Crayton our #3. We need a dependable #4 who is smaart enough to exploit open areas in the secondary, find the soft spot in zones, and be where he's supposed to be on a hot read .. because he'll be a forgotten man and a low priority more often than not in defensive coverage. He just needs to be savy enough to take advantage of it.

 

[juck]

You know,what has he had as far as QBs in the last few years?He had Brees but was hurt that season.He was productive with that QB they had before Brees ,Brooks for gods sake,maybe he can still produce.

 

[BulletBob]

I know - let's get Peerless Price on the horn (so to speak).

 

[Alexander]

with tony romo an average wide out can be very productive.
not with joey harrington

He wasn't even great with New Orleans and Brees. He's old, injury-riddled and has a very overinflated opinion of himself. A complete waste of time and a roadblock to actually developing a young WR on this roster.

I won't even get into the fact we would have to actually give up something to acquire him from Atlanta as he is still officially on their roster.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Pass.

How many times I have to say this?

If we going to get a new WR we need a #1 WR not some 36 year old retread.

 

[juck]

Should have drafted one instead of Marcellus.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Should have drafted one instead of Marcellus.

We would still be in the same boat as we are now ... a bunch of young guys, completely unproven that they can provide even mediocre production. Guess how many catches Jason Hill, Robert Meachem and Dewayne Jarrett had combined their rookie years?

 

[juck]

We would still be in the same boat as we are now ... a bunch of young guys, completely unproven that they can provide even mediocre production. Guess how many catches Jason Hill, Robert Meachem and Dewayne Jarrett had combined their rookie years?

Meachem was hurt.Jarrett had no QB.IDK Hill.Still we are trying to make a 2 outa a bunch of sixes,lol

 

[juck]

WR will haunt us this year mark my words,just like cb did last year.we should have addressed it.T.O. is great but does seem to get banged up a bit.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Meachem was hurt.Jarrett had no QB.IDK Hill.Still we are trying to make a 2 outa a bunch of sixes,lol

None of those guys could even get activated for games. Rookie WR's typically provide squat.

 

[juck]

None of those guys could even get activated for games. Rookie WR's typically provide squat.

Better to have a reciever than a 3rd TE.whom we dont need.

 

[tomson75]

Better to have a reciever than a 3rd TE.whom we dont need.

Actually, it isn't...not on this team at least. Horn would likely be fourth or fifth on the depth chart at this point. You think he wants to play special teams? I don't. You think Bennett will? I do.

 

[juck]

Actually, it isn't...not on this team at least. Horn would likely be fourth or fifth on the depth chart at this point. You think he wants to play special teams? I don't. You think Bennett will? I do.

ok,when T.O> gets a bangup,i hope those special teams are incredible cause we are done otherwise.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

He isn't new. He's old.

:laugh2: you got that right Hos!

 

[tomson75]

ok,when T.O> gets a bangup,i hope those special teams are incredible cause we are done otherwise.

If you think Joe Horn is the answer if TO goes down with an injury, you're nuts. The young guys are more capable at this point than Horn. Either way, losing TO would be a BIG problem.

 

[InmanRoshi]

ok,when T.O> gets a bangup,i hope those special teams are incredible cause we are done otherwise.

Just as screwed as the Patriots will be if Moss gets hurt or the Colts will be if Reggie Wayne gets hurt.

I'm not sure where the Cowboy fans got it in their heads that you need two Pro Bowl WR's on each side, a Top 3 NFL TE and a 50+ catch #3 .... but believe it or not, most teams that have won the Superbowl have managed to do it with significantly less. In fact, every Superbowl Winning team has managed to do it with less.

 

[sago1]

I've never said we needed a pro bowl WR opposite TO. We just need a good solid vet WR who can help us with his experience, etc. If Horn was a few years younger & healthy, he'd be a great addition except then the Falcons wouldn't want to give him up. Besides Horn has a $2.5M salary which if we trade for him we'd have to pay. I'd prefer Cowboys explore other WR options. Engram in Seattle had a very good year in 07; he's unhappy with his contract & wants a new one but he's about 35 too. I could live with him for 1-2 years as Glenn's replacement if he can help us win a SB.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Engram had a 94 catch, 1147 yard season last year and he wants to be compensated with something that resembles #1 WR money ... something tells me Seattle (who got as far in the playoffs last year as we did) isn't going to just give that production away unless a team blows them away with an amazing offer. How much are you willing to give Seattle for a 35 year old WR? A #1 pick? And keep in mind, he's going to want to be paid like a #1 WR with us too.

Cowboy fans just have this amazing ability to believe other teams are more than willling to just hand us great WR's and ignore what's best for their franchises, as though the Cowboys are the only team trying to win a Superbowl in 08.

 

[Wimbo]

He was good until he went to Atlanta - and that was playing for a usually bad New Orleans team. And you really can not fault him too much for what happened in Atlanta. I don't think this team needs his ego, but he may still have something left. This would be his 13th season, and he has some recent injury woes, I believe. Vet minimum depth? maybe. I want to know what Austin and Hurd can do, however.

Austin & Hurd... the best combo since Starsky & Hutch. Believe!