Next Time we Discuss Dak's Stats

[Aven8]

Except the cowboys were competitive against the Commanders. The cowboys won.

Other than that minor small insignificant detail. You’re onto something.

Except for the fact that Mariota did make plays against us and we got smoked......

 

[WillieBeamen]

Ha.

And no one knows you on this site...so there is no reason to try and be cool and hate on the qb because others do it. It is ok to have your own thoughts and analysis. Try it..

And Dak doesnt know you



You have a borderline obsession for the man. Seek help

 

[LocimusPrime]

It's a bit fishy to me that the Batch game disappeared into thin air like that... I can't even find it anywhere in the list. But it looks like they bumped up the minimum number of plays the QB participates in just high enough to get rid of Batch's stain on the ledger...

I agree w 100. Oh u just wanted to say your posts are usually pretty good bro

 

[keysersoze]

And Dak doesnt know you



You have a borderline obsession for the man. Seek help

It’s very sad and juvenile to see so called fans berate another fan because he supports our quarterback. Why do you call it an obsession? Seems like you and your anti Dak cheer squad are the ones who are obsessed. In a negative way.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I’m not saying he’s a better anything. What I’m trying to point out is u insert him in them quick pass system he’d wipe them out. Wince and Goff aren’t any better or worse they’re a product of their system. What happened to Goff playing in fishers ancient system? Wentz rookie yr? The difference is their owners saw that and hired coaches to implement systems to their strengths. Jerry? Still stuck on JG. That’s the only difference

Wentz and Goff are more talented than Dak. That's obvious in watching them play. It's obvious to scouts who spent hundreds of hours watching them. It's obvious in where they were respectively taken. It's obvious in the individual successes they are having.

To argue otherwise is a joke. Dak lacks their accuracy and arm talent. He also processes information incredibly slow in comparison.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Wentz and Goff are more talented than Dak. That's obvious in watching them play. It's obvious to scouts who spent hundreds of hours watching them. It's obvious in where they were respectively taken. It's obvious in the individual successes they are having.

To argue otherwise is a joke. Dak lacks their accuracy and arm talent. He also processes information incredibly slow in comparison.

What's funny is even the local media knows it. At lunch today I was listening to Jean Jacques Taylor discussing how much they should pay Dak. He and the other hosts stated that every knows that Dak is a top tier qb but more on the level of Case Keemun and those types. They concluded that he's worth about 9% of the cap.

I even think that's too much. In his defense I believe that you can win with Dak but it'll take a lot of resources. He's not gonna be the type that can win the game with his arm but can manage it

 

[Toruk_Makto]

What's funny is even the local media knows it. At lunch today I was listening to Jean Jacques Taylor discussing how much they should pay Dak. He and the other hosts stated that every knows that Dak is a top tier qb but more on the level of Case Keemun and those types. They concluded that he's worth about 9% of the cap.

I even think that's too much. In his defense I believe that you can win with Dak but it'll take a lot of resources. He's not gonna be the type that can win the game with his arm but can manage it

And his best asset....his feet....isn't even tremendous. He's great around the goal line....but between the 20s his legs get him in more trouble than they solve problems...because of his bad pocket awareness he often scrambles right into sacks....trying to use his legs.

 

[keysersoze]

Wentz and Goff are more talented than Dak. That's obvious in watching them play. It's obvious to scouts who spent hundreds of hours watching them. It's obvious in where they were respectively taken. It's obvious in the individual successes they are having.

To argue otherwise is a joke. Dak lacks their accuracy and arm talent. He also processes information incredibly slow in comparison.

This is one more stupid *** post. None of them are having individual success. It’s systematic, team success. What success were Wentz and Goff having in their rookie seasons before their respective teams surrounded them with adequate talent? And as far as your proclaimed arm talent and accuracy? Dak’s is lookin better now that he’s got a legitimate receiver. Give us a TE and he’d do even more.

 

[StarBoyz83]

You have to be real about wins and losses. But you aren't a coach so it's ok to gloat after a win. Any win.

Except week 17 last year lol

 

[DogFace]

Oh, this **** again.


The thing is just like LVE, Jaylon, Romo, etc. etc....

You all are so dug in that even when he proves you wrong you still won’t be able to face it. Not just here among anonymous board members, but you yourself won’t face it.

Throwing out two passes to get “a better picture” of how he performed is dumb.

 

[DogFace]

... Remember Mariota and Monday nights game against the Texans.

Mariota went 22-23 with a perfect passer rating. And yet the Titans were not competitive. This tweet does a good job of explaining why his stats did not match the eye test.



This reminds me of Dak against the Commanders. He was awful essentially the entire game. And yet due to two passes his passer rating was stellar. Eye test > Stats in this case.

As a reminder Dak is 23rd in the NFL in QBR. Top 5? Brees, Mahomes, Rivers, Goff and Wilson in that order.

For added Dak context Joe Flacco and Ryan Fitzpatrick have been better. Fitzpatrick has been benched twice and there is talk Joe has been Wally Pipped. Meanwhile we wouldn't trade Dak for 2 first rounders and are backing up the Brinks truck. Future is bright!

Why doesn’t the NFL throw out a few of Daks incompletions and interceptions when figuring his stats?

Wouldn’t that give us a better idea of how he’s playing?

 

[Runwildboys]

And maybe that's why they came out and fell behind 21-3.

Right, because that's the only game they ever lost, so it must be the reason.

 

[G2]

So is go root for another team.. Just sayin’

Got that?

 

[Gaede]

So, let's dismiss Dak's stats because we don't like when they prove he's a quality player who is helping us win games.

One thing is off here and its not the stats. Methinks your 'eye-test' may be a bit biased.

I get that he's not the best player. His stats don't even show that, and no one is even claiming that. But the idea that you can cherry pick stats and discount plays that disprove your eye test is BS.

 

[Silver N Blue]

This might be the best way to look at it. We might be able to win with Dak but he's never going to be that guy that can overcome crap breaking down all around him like other top QBs can and have.

 

[WillieBeamen]

It’s very sad and juvenile to see so called fans berate another fan because he supports our quarterback. Why do you call it an obsession? Seems like you and your anti Dak cheer squad are the ones who are obsessed. In a negative way.

Mind ya business fool Lol


I dont pay attention to kenny at all. That changed when he got sensitive over me saying Dak sucks.

 

[G2]

And Dak doesnt know you



You have a borderline obsession for the man. Seek help

Until you take your Dezzie posters down you have no room to talk

 

[pansophy]

its ok. It's still fundamentally flawed. There's more articles discussing this very issue

Fundamentally flawed suggests it lacks construct validity, which simply isn't true. Imperfect is something else and every statistic is an estimate of reality and can only be interpreted in the context in which it is measured.

 

[pansophy]

Which is the case with 90% of the qbs in the league, you can count on 1 hand the qbs that can overcome crap breaking down around him. Those qbs, Brady,Rodgers,Brees. Also Dak is in year 3, lots of growing left.

Including Aikman for what's it worth. When the OL broke down in his last years Aikman wasn't able to overcome that.

 

[pansophy]

I agree w 100. Oh u just wanted to say your posts are usually pretty good bro

Here it is: http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/1490/year/2010

For what it's worth this statistic reflects the likelihood of winning rather than passer efficiency. They did win 38-13 so from that perspective its hard to call the statistic inaccurate. His passer efficiency rating however was 106.5 which is far from perfect. The statistics are not intended to measure the same thing.