Next Time we Discuss Dak's Stats

[keysersoze]

No issue with Romo's contract.

Stop using wins as a qb Stat please.

Doing that is the thing that got Bortles paid.

Wins are what matters. Are you a fantasy football/Madden playing millennial? I’m only asking because you sound like one. Only concerned with individual stats.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I noticed you skipped over the fact that the first of those 3 game Dak had an outstanding day, and ultimately all you are trying to do is expand an already false argument over 3 games instead of 1.

2 pass plays in the 3rd of those games doesn't somehow change the fact Dak ad 270 yards on 72% passing, with 1 passing TD and 1 rushing TD in the 1st of those games. To suggested that it ridiculously illogical.

Even when looking at just the Commanders game, your entire argument is predicated on the game playing out exactly as it did except without those 2 plays ever happening - as if those entire possessions ended at that point without those plays, and as if without those plays Washington and Dallas wouldn't have been playing any differently despite entirely different circumstances without those scores. As if with the game close, or with Dallas maybe being behind they still would have run the ball 11 out of 13 times in the 4th quarter, and would still have been playing to run time off the clock and force Washington to use timeouts. That's so nonsensical it's hard to fathom anyone would think it.

Are you following along at all? This is literally a conversation about stats lying verses the eye test. You call Dak's day against Philly Outstanding. His qbr for that game was 14th in the NFL that week. 19th against Atlanta. 12th last week. 23rd against the Titans and 23rd on the season.

You are literally proving my point. If you've watched Dak the last month and think he's been "outstanding" any individual week then I'm not sure if you understand what you see. No offense.

 

[Future]

Then why cry about Dak getting a big contract? So far he’s done just as much as Romo. If you were ok with Romo’s extension you should be ok with Dak’s.

I never said one single word about Dak's contract, so idk what you're talking about.

 

[keysersoze]

I noticed you skipped over the fact that the first of those 3 game Dak had an outstanding day, and ultimately all you are trying to do is expand an already false argument over 3 games instead of 1.

2 pass plays in the 3rd of those games doesn't somehow change the fact Dak ad 270 yards on 72% passing, with 1 passing TD and 1 rushing TD in the 1st of those games. To suggested that it ridiculously illogical.

Even when looking at just the Commanders game, your entire argument is predicated on the game playing out exactly as it did except without those 2 plays ever happening - as if those entire possessions ended at that point without those plays, and as if without those plays Washington and Dallas wouldn't have been playing any differently despite entirely different circumstances without those scores. As if with the game close, or with Dallas maybe being behind they still would have run the ball 11 out of 13 times in the 4th quarter, and would still have been playing to run time off the clock and force Washington to use timeouts. That's so nonsensical it's hard to fathom anyone would think it.

I also noticed you are hiding from the fact that while you claimed Dak was throwing poor passes deep into a close game, the truth is Dak only threw 2 out of 13 plays in the 4th quarter of a game in which the Cowboys had a 2 score lead.

Yea.... He’s totally biased. The Agenda is real

 

[Future]

Wins are what matters. Are you a fantasy football/Madden playing millennial? I’m only asking because you sound like one. Only concerned with individual stats.

Wins are a team stat that you are now using as an individual stat to compare Dak to Tony lol .

 

[keysersoze]

I never said one single word about Dak's contract, so idk what you're talking about.

You’re right. I accidentally quoted the wrong post. My bad.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Wins are what matters. Are you a fantasy football/Madden playing millennial? I’m only asking because you sound like one. Only concerned with individual stats.

I play fantasy. I am a millennial. I'm also at one of if not THE most prestigious firm in the world working in investments.

Now that that is out of the way. Stop using wins as a qb Stat. Or use wins as stat for everyone. You ready to give Anthony Brown a top contract? He's played in the same amount of wins as Dak.

 

[keysersoze]

Wins are a team stat that you are now using as an individual stat to compare Dak to Tony lol .

No. I’m saying if we are winning with Dak as we were winning with Romo, Dak’s earned a contract. Winning is winning. And so far Dak has proven to win games. Especially in comeback situations. That was the barometer for Romo’s extension. So why change the criteria now?

 

[keysersoze]

I play fantasy. I am a millennial. I'm also at one of if not THE most prestigious firm in the world working in investments.

Now that that is out of the way. Stop using wins as a qb Stat. Or use wins as stat for everyone. You ready to give Anthony Brown a top contract? He's played in the same amount of wins as Dak.

I knew it!!! You youngsters are disillusioned and need immediate gratification.
And if/when Anthony Brown engineers some come from behind wins for the team, I’ll hold him in the same regard.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I knew it!!! You youngsters are disillusioned and need immediate gratification.
And if/when Anthony Brown engineers some come from behind wins for the team, I’ll hold him in the same regard.

For the record I'm in my 30s. Which makes me a millennial (those born 1980 or later). Not sure why I need instant gratification based on this.

And Dak does not engineer a come from behind win without his defense, his line, his skill players and teams being involved.

What part of teams win games and not individual players don't you understand?

 

[keysersoze]

For the record I'm 33. Which makes me a millennial. Not sure why I need instant gratification.

And Dak does not engineer a come from behind win without his defense, his line, his skill players and teams being involved.

What part of teams win games and not individual players don't you understand?

Was this your same evaluation when Romo was credited with come from behind wins???
Be honest now Young Man.

 

[TimHortons]

I knew it!!! You youngsters are disillusioned and need immediate gratification.

Can't come to a conclusion/resolution through valid debate, so turn the conversation to unrelated personal insults. Classic. At least keep insults on topic to football.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Wins are what matters. Are you a fantasy football/Madden playing millennial? I’m only asking because you sound like one. Only concerned with individual stats.

If you don't understand how attributing W/L to an individual player in a TEAM sport is wrought with error you can't be helped.

 

[keysersoze]

Can't come to a conclusion/resolution through valid debate, so turn the conversation to unrelated personal insults. Classic. At least keep insults on topic to football.

Stay out of Grown Folks’ business. It is football related. Millennials, Madden Games and fantasy football have youngsters more concerned with individual stats instead of overall wins. It’s the culture you all are living in. Instant self gratification.

 

[keysersoze]

If you don't understand how attributing W/L to an individual player in a TEAM sport is wrought with error you can't be helped.

It was ok when evaluating Romo and others in comparison tho? Shut up!!!

 

[LatinMind]

It's silly to think that the only diffference between Goff and Dak is the system. Goff can anticipate throws, Dak can't. It is what it is.

Rookie years are the anomaly.

Why? Theyre having the most success with the quick hit passes. the only difference is Goff has Cooks Kupp and Gurley who are amongst the lead leaders in yac.

Goff 1076 yrds come from yac just in them 3 players. Thats1/3 of his yrds that have absolutely nothing to do with him. Isnt that how that works? Dont you say that about dak with coopers catches this past week? Simple catch that he took to the house?

 

[TimHortons]

Stay out of Grown Folks’ business.

It's a conversation forum. If you can't deal with debate and discussion then don't be here. And again with the personal insults. Like you're calling mellenials immature but you're the one turning to personal insults on an internet forum

 

[keysersoze]

Why? Theyre having the most success with the quick hit passes. the only difference is Goff has Cooks Kupp and Gurley who are amongst the lead leaders in yac.

Goff 1076 yrds come from yac just in them 3 players. Thats1/3 of his yrds who have absolutely nothing to do with him.

 

[keysersoze]

It's a conversation forum. If you can't deal with debate and discussion then don't be here.

Seems like I’m dealing with it just fine. I’m not the one reeling here. My points are valid, unbiased and without hidden agenda

 

[Corso]

Why? Theyre having the most success with the quick hit passes. the only difference is Goff has Cooks Kupp and Gurley who are amongst the lead leaders in yac.

Goff 1076 yrds come from yac just in them 3 players. Thats1/3 of his yrds that have absolutely nothing to do with him. Isnt that how that works? Dont you say that about dak with coopers catches this past week? Simple catch that he took to the house?

Good point.