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TPBetter than who? The Eagles backs?
TPBetter than who? The Eagles backs?
Oh I think so. Talent wise I think Saquon is one of the best in the league.
But you don't have to have confidence it doesn't mean it's not going to work out tell Tony Pollard is every bit as good as Sanders was for the Eagles and that's all they brought to the Super bowl in that group of running back by committee in Kansas City that's all they brought that's not better than ours it's at least on par with the plan we have right now how about the Rams I mean what was the guys name Cam acres I mean in the Cincinnati Bengals had a solid running back but he wasn't a blue chip like superstar all the blue chip superstars seem not be making the Super bowl until they're like 8th year when they're picked up after being cut I think history is showing you that it's better to focus on your offensive line your quarterback and your key positions and running back can probably be fine if those other things are working.I guarantee you didn't hear that "dime a dozen" talk from me
Rico Dowdell, Malik Davis, Ronald Jones ,hunter ,and Vaughn? Sorry, that doesn't inspire a lot of confidence from me.
The running game doesn't hinge on just the offensive line. If it did then the name Joseph Randle wouldn't invoke immediate laughter. The RB must have an acceptable amount of talent to take advantage of what the offensive line offers him.
I was simply talking about production if you look at what Tony Pollard can do and that we already have him on our team the Eagles brought Sanders to the Super bowl and he was productive and people are acting like we don't have any planet running back they're not confident and I'm saying that just with Tony Pollard alone and whoever they picked to bring into the rotation will be as good or better than the last four Super Bowl teams you know the last two years they'll tell me about their running backs lol. I did start out with saying DeAndre swift is more like Tony Pollard except he's injured more often Rashad penny injured more often they brought a bunch of dudes over that's OK and they're ranked number one with with nothing but names they haven't done anything in the past or in the presentSanders, $25 million, half of that guaranteed. Some teams just don’t spend that kind of money for running backs. Unlike Pollard, Sanders is not much of a receiver. Swift will spend time on IR for half what Sanders will, and for a third of what Pollard will.
I just dont see how this is lost on many here....A good running attack with great trench play got a good team to the SB to Face Mahomes...much diferent than a great RB doing it himself which has not happened in YEARS!When is the last year the Super Bowl winning team had an All-pro running back? Or a top 5 backfield?
Not anytime recently
I read both and now think I am a nit-wit.People can read my posts and yours and decide who is the half-wit
Hopefully Deuce doesn't have to wait 2 years to showcase. I am high ãf on this kid.Tony Pollard is the lead back finally for the Dallas Cowboys, but they're no longer the top running team in the NFC East.
3. Dallas Cowboys
Tony Pollard, Deuce Vaughn, Malik Davis, Ronald Jones
This means it's Pollard's show and while he has the potential to do great things in a lead role, he's also coming off a broken fibula. So far, there's no concern about this in 2023 but the depth behind him is questionable.
Malik Davis looked impressive as a rookie but the former undrafted free agent from Florida is still inexperienced overall. Ronald Jones is there and he has a lot of experience, even gaining 978 yards for the Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2020. However, he's coming off a 70-yard campaign with the Chiefs and might not even make the 53-man roster.
The one player who could change their fortunes is Deuce Vaughn, a sixth-round pick from Kansas State. He has the potential to produce some highlight-reel plays but pinning their hopes on a late-round pick to be a difference-maker might not be a great bet.
Eagles are Number 1, not a surprise!
https://thelandryhat.com/posts/nfc-east-running-back-rotations-ranked-worst-best-2023
No DeAndre swift is a poor man's Pollard because they are very similar. But until swift can stay healthy he can't be depended on same goes with penny I mean that guy is a injury oh prone type guy who never blossomed when everybody had high hopes for him not like philadelphia's got a bunch of dudes that are ready just to explode. I'd say they have a lot more question marks than they have answers at running back just like us that doesn't make him number one that's why I don't like rankings..
but I believe Tony Pollard is closer to what Sanders was and we'll probably only have them this year anyway so you might as well just lean on him a little don't push him too hard keep him healthy for the playoffs but if you bring Pollard in with a healthy offensive line in the playoffs and he's fresh he could do some damage the problem is that didn't happen last year he ran out of gas he got injured twice and five game stretch and dropped off at the end of the year the Cowboys are smart to not overuse them throughout the year but towards the end of the year get him going into the playoffs and then ride him hard every playoff game.
Understand what you are trying to say, but Pollard or Swift right now who would you choose if only 1.No DeAndre swift is a poor man's Pollard because they are very similar. But until swift can stay healthy he can't be depended on same goes with penny I mean that guy is a injury oh prone type guy who never blossomed when everybody had high hopes for him not like philadelphia's got a bunch of dudes that are ready just to explode. I'd say they have a lot more question marks than they have answers at running back just like us that doesn't make him number one that's why I don't like rankings..
but I believe Tony Pollard is closer to what Sanders was and we'll probably only have them this year anyway so you might as well just lean on him a little don't push him too hard keep him healthy for the playoffs but if you bring Pollard in with a healthy offensive line in the playoffs and he's fresh he could do some damage the problem is that didn't happen last year he ran out of gas he got injured twice and five game stretch and dropped off at the end of the year the Cowboys are smart to not overuse them throughout the year but towards the end of the year get him going into the playoffs and then ride him hard every playoff game.
Pollard is a quality running back. He is also the type of back that fits the latest view of NFL running backs that RBs must embrace their role in the pass offense and rush offense with equal enthusiasm. Pollard is a potential super star. The Eagles have amassed a group of “ham and egger” RBs. If one goes down the next man up is not much different. NFL teams are investing more on offensive lineman as they help the pass and rush attacks. Running backs looking for big money now will have to be able to do the same. If the Giants felt they can’t win without Barkley they’d have met his salary demand by now.Understand what you are trying to say, but Pollard or Swift right now who would you choose if only 1.
Do realize that D'Andre Swift was a 2nd round pick from 2020, is 2 years younger than Pollard, and has already scored 3 more total TDs than Pollard in 100 fewer touches? And he did this on the Lions. You don't think he may be able to fare a little better behind the Eagles line and in that scheme? Pollard is a very good RB, but I've noticed Cowboy fans over-rate him just a tad, and he's coming off a major injury himself. If Swift is a ham and egger, than so is PollardPollard is a quality running back. He is also the type of back that fits the latest view of NFL running backs that RBs must embrace their role in the pass offense and rush offense with equal enthusiasm. Pollard is a potential super star. The Eagles have amassed a group of “ham and egger” RBs. If one goes down the next man up is not much different. NFL teams are investing more on offensive lineman as they help the pass and rush attacks. Running backs looking for big money now will have to be able to do the same. If the Giants felt they can’t win without Barkley they’d have met his salary demand by now.
Not to belabor the point, but the Lions, clearly (and finally) an ascending team, traded him to Philly for a fifth round pick in 2025 and swapping 7ths in the last draft. I understand they drafted a highly regarded running back, but they have to be the team most familiar with Swift. And that’s what they were willing to take for him. If Swift performs better than Pollard I’ll join the “Roseman is a Genius“ ranks with half the others posting here. I still say ham and egger.Do realize that D'Andre Swift was a 2nd round pick from 2020, is 2 years younger than Pollard, and has already scored 3 more total TDs than Pollard in 100 fewer touches? And he did this on the Lions. You don't think he may be able to fare a little better behind the Eagles line and in that scheme? Pollard is a very good RB, but I've noticed Cowboy fans over-rate him just a tad, and he's coming off a major injury himself. If Swift is a ham and egger, than so is Pollard
Lol…it’s the Lions. They drafted a RB high in the first round, and it wasn’t Bijan. Yes the guy they got was another projected first rounder, but no one had him going that high.Not to belabor the point, but the Lions, clearly (and finally) an ascending team, traded him to Philly for a fifth round pick in 2025 and swapping 7ths in the last draft. I understand they drafted a highly regarded running back, but they have to be the team most familiar with Swift. And that’s what they were willing to take for him. If Swift performs better than Pollard I’ll join the “Roseman is a Genius“ ranks with half the others posting here. I still say ham and egger.
Pollard He’s healthier in my opinion that means more reliable I know I don’t seem like it because he just got hurt last year but I’m taking PollardUnderstand what you are trying to say, but Pollard or Swift right now who would you choose if only 1.
Lol…How could you possibly know if he’s healthier than Swift at this moment?Pollard He’s healthier in my opinion that means more reliable I know I don’t seem like it because he just got hurt last year but I’m taking Pollard
The info lid on Pollard is sealed tighter than a frogs ***, and what we know is only from limited medical that has been available for viewing.Lol…How could you possibly know if he’s healthier than Swift at this moment?
Penny would be the perfect complement to Pollard. He was so cheap too.I think they are likely banking these ratings on upside. And the upside of Philly pretty much tops everyone. I wouldn't have minded us taking a flier on Penny, even with his injury history. If he can somehow stay healthy, he's got big upside. Pairing him with Pollard, which would have limited his carries for sure, may have kept him healthy for longer.
I think we have a really good team heading into 2023 but Philly is also really, really loaded offensively. And they have a good DL and a good secondary, LB appears to be a big question mark.
Having said that, in looking at some of the more advanced stats from 2022, I could see some regression in Hurts.
Lol, I think you may be a little confused. Depth matters in the nfl…. Especially at RB. Gone are the days of one workhorse back.I know what it says.
The Giants have the best back so they have the best rotation. Matt Breida vs. Kenneth Gainwell is irrelevant.
He is from Philly and I think I read they were already trying to sign him to an extension.I bet Swift has a really good year behind that OLine and they let him walk and get a comp pick for him. That's seems to be their strategy.
But I have no idea what the heck Detroit was thinking. They had 2 first round picks and are an up and coming team and select a RB and a MLB? Dumb. Just really dumb.