NFC East running back rotations ranked from worst to best in 2023

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I guarantee you didn't hear that "dime a dozen" talk from me

Rico Dowdell, Malik Davis, Ronald Jones ,hunter ,and Vaughn? Sorry, that doesn't inspire a lot of confidence from me.

The running game doesn't hinge on just the offensive line. If it did then the name Joseph Randle wouldn't invoke immediate laughter. The RB must have an acceptable amount of talent to take advantage of what the offensive line offers him.
But you don't have to have confidence it doesn't mean it's not going to work out tell Tony Pollard is every bit as good as Sanders was for the Eagles and that's all they brought to the Super bowl in that group of running back by committee in Kansas City that's all they brought that's not better than ours it's at least on par with the plan we have right now how about the Rams I mean what was the guys name Cam acres I mean in the Cincinnati Bengals had a solid running back but he wasn't a blue chip like superstar all the blue chip superstars seem not be making the Super bowl until they're like 8th year when they're picked up after being cut I think history is showing you that it's better to focus on your offensive line your quarterback and your key positions and running back can probably be fine if those other things are working.

Some of the guys mentioned from last year when's the last time nick chubb, dalvin cook, Derek Henry, Ezekiel Elliot, Kamara, David Johnson, gurly, and Christian McCaffrey saquan Barkley, many others. I mean even you don't like Rojo but in Tampa Bay Super Bowl year he was the leading rusher and then they needed both him and fournette who was supposed to be washed up but he was definitely not in his prime play well in the playoffs that also might have had something to do with Tom Brady and gronk and a newly energized offensive line.

I mean that's just to name a few well the the new crew Taylor and Jacobs are are they in Super Bowls I mean these are some of the best running backs in the league that are not playing in Super Bowls and a lot of them are being let go cut asked to take pay cuts I mean when they're in their prime they're not playing in the Super bowl we haven't seen that since who Terrell Davis and Emmett Smith where the highest paid best running backs in the league are actually playing in the Super bowl some of them end up in the Super bowl on their second or third contracts but not in their prime.

But like I said the last two Super Bowls name me all the great run games and the names that they brought to the Super bowl at running back ?????

like I said Tony pollards at least that good... You can bring up Joseph Randall all you want he was a head case for one and that was at the very end of that offensive lines dominance. I mean I get what you're saying but I've noticed in the last three playoff games when we had supposedly had one of the best running backs in the league and then the depth that we had with zeke and Pollard and what exactly happened against the Rams and the 49ers both games?? the offensive line got stood up pushed back there were no holes the run game looked like garbage.

So now you're all worried about the names we have at running back are the depth when we seen all those names not playing the Super bowls

I mean how much more of an example do you need than the last two Super Bowls the running back position was not a focus and yet it still functioned enough to make a difference in the game. I mean if Cam acres and that running back group from Kansas City had you inspired by confidence then you're lying bro.. That tells me it is about the offensive line but also more about the scheme the play calling has a lot to do with the coaching and I think if you notice there's a reason that we made a lot of changes and please don't say it was because of Prescott alone when they said they tried to make the offense Romo friendly now you're saying it's dak friendly no it's league friendly you need to have a better run scheme better play caller and yes the offensive line needs to be part of that this is a flowing group that needs to gel together and it does in season but by the time we get to the playoffs guys are banged up we're shuffling the line and we have a offensive coordinator that only calls 16 run plays if you need an example of why he was gone it had nothing to do with scoring a lot of points or being pass happy had everything to do with when it came to playing against the best front sevens Kellen Moore looked like a high school coach.. Other teams running back by committee they schemed their run game as much as they scheme their pass game Kelly Moore didn't want anything to do with coming up with creative plays in the run game especially with zeke.
So we're not just talking about are running backs as a group and the offensive line we're talking about we have revamp the scheme we're gonna have a different play caller we've got people here that are gonna put as much stock in the run game as they do the pass game we don't need to run more we need to run better and need to run differently.
 

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Sanders, $25 million, half of that guaranteed. Some teams just don’t spend that kind of money for running backs. Unlike Pollard, Sanders is not much of a receiver. Swift will spend time on IR for half what Sanders will, and for a third of what Pollard will.
I was simply talking about production if you look at what Tony Pollard can do and that we already have him on our team the Eagles brought Sanders to the Super bowl and he was productive and people are acting like we don't have any planet running back they're not confident and I'm saying that just with Tony Pollard alone and whoever they picked to bring into the rotation will be as good or better than the last four Super Bowl teams you know the last two years they'll tell me about their running backs lol. I did start out with saying DeAndre swift is more like Tony Pollard except he's injured more often Rashad penny injured more often they brought a bunch of dudes over that's OK and they're ranked number one with with nothing but names they haven't done anything in the past or in the present
 

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When is the last year the Super Bowl winning team had an All-pro running back? Or a top 5 backfield?

Not anytime recently
I just dont see how this is lost on many here....A good running attack with great trench play got a good team to the SB to Face Mahomes...much diferent than a great RB doing it himself which has not happened in YEARS!
 

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There is one great back in the East and he plays for NY.

None of these others have proven they can carry the load. And none of these others are as important to their team because the Giants will try and run their offense through him and DAL and PHL will run theirs through the QB.
 

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Tony Pollard is the lead back finally for the Dallas Cowboys, but they're no longer the top running team in the NFC East.

3. Dallas Cowboys​

Tony Pollard, Deuce Vaughn, Malik Davis, Ronald Jones
This means it's Pollard's show and while he has the potential to do great things in a lead role, he's also coming off a broken fibula. So far, there's no concern about this in 2023 but the depth behind him is questionable.

Malik Davis looked impressive as a rookie but the former undrafted free agent from Florida is still inexperienced overall. Ronald Jones is there and he has a lot of experience, even gaining 978 yards for the Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2020. However, he's coming off a 70-yard campaign with the Chiefs and might not even make the 53-man roster.

The one player who could change their fortunes is Deuce Vaughn, a sixth-round pick from Kansas State. He has the potential to produce some highlight-reel plays but pinning their hopes on a late-round pick to be a difference-maker might not be a great bet.

Eagles are Number 1, not a surprise!

https://thelandryhat.com/posts/nfc-east-running-back-rotations-ranked-worst-best-2023
Hopefully Deuce doesn't have to wait 2 years to showcase. I am high ãf on this kid.
 

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No DeAndre swift is a poor man's Pollard because they are very similar. But until swift can stay healthy he can't be depended on same goes with penny I mean that guy is a injury oh prone type guy who never blossomed when everybody had high hopes for him not like philadelphia's got a bunch of dudes that are ready just to explode. I'd say they have a lot more question marks than they have answers at running back just like us that doesn't make him number one that's why I don't like rankings..

but I believe Tony Pollard is closer to what Sanders was and we'll probably only have them this year anyway so you might as well just lean on him a little don't push him too hard keep him healthy for the playoffs but if you bring Pollard in with a healthy offensive line in the playoffs and he's fresh he could do some damage the problem is that didn't happen last year he ran out of gas he got injured twice and five game stretch and dropped off at the end of the year the Cowboys are smart to not overuse them throughout the year but towards the end of the year get him going into the playoffs and then ride him hard every playoff game.

No DeAndre swift is a poor man's Pollard because they are very similar. But until swift can stay healthy he can't be depended on same goes with penny I mean that guy is a injury oh prone type guy who never blossomed when everybody had high hopes for him not like philadelphia's got a bunch of dudes that are ready just to explode. I'd say they have a lot more question marks than they have answers at running back just like us that doesn't make him number one that's why I don't like rankings..

but I believe Tony Pollard is closer to what Sanders was and we'll probably only have them this year anyway so you might as well just lean on him a little don't push him too hard keep him healthy for the playoffs but if you bring Pollard in with a healthy offensive line in the playoffs and he's fresh he could do some damage the problem is that didn't happen last year he ran out of gas he got injured twice and five game stretch and dropped off at the end of the year the Cowboys are smart to not overuse them throughout the year but towards the end of the year get him going into the playoffs and then ride him hard every playoff game.
Understand what you are trying to say, but Pollard or Swift right now who would you choose if only 1.
 

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Understand what you are trying to say, but Pollard or Swift right now who would you choose if only 1.
Pollard is a quality running back. He is also the type of back that fits the latest view of NFL running backs that RBs must embrace their role in the pass offense and rush offense with equal enthusiasm. Pollard is a potential super star. The Eagles have amassed a group of “ham and egger” RBs. If one goes down the next man up is not much different. NFL teams are investing more on offensive lineman as they help the pass and rush attacks. Running backs looking for big money now will have to be able to do the same. If the Giants felt they can’t win without Barkley they’d have met his salary demand by now.
 

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Pollard is a quality running back. He is also the type of back that fits the latest view of NFL running backs that RBs must embrace their role in the pass offense and rush offense with equal enthusiasm. Pollard is a potential super star. The Eagles have amassed a group of “ham and egger” RBs. If one goes down the next man up is not much different. NFL teams are investing more on offensive lineman as they help the pass and rush attacks. Running backs looking for big money now will have to be able to do the same. If the Giants felt they can’t win without Barkley they’d have met his salary demand by now.
Do realize that D'Andre Swift was a 2nd round pick from 2020, is 2 years younger than Pollard, and has already scored 3 more total TDs than Pollard in 100 fewer touches? And he did this on the Lions. You don't think he may be able to fare a little better behind the Eagles line and in that scheme? Pollard is a very good RB, but I've noticed Cowboy fans over-rate him just a tad, and he's coming off a major injury himself. If Swift is a ham and egger, than so is Pollard
 

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Do realize that D'Andre Swift was a 2nd round pick from 2020, is 2 years younger than Pollard, and has already scored 3 more total TDs than Pollard in 100 fewer touches? And he did this on the Lions. You don't think he may be able to fare a little better behind the Eagles line and in that scheme? Pollard is a very good RB, but I've noticed Cowboy fans over-rate him just a tad, and he's coming off a major injury himself. If Swift is a ham and egger, than so is Pollard
Not to belabor the point, but the Lions, clearly (and finally) an ascending team, traded him to Philly for a fifth round pick in 2025 and swapping 7ths in the last draft. I understand they drafted a highly regarded running back, but they have to be the team most familiar with Swift. And that’s what they were willing to take for him. If Swift performs better than Pollard I’ll join the “Roseman is a Genius“ ranks with half the others posting here. I still say ham and egger.
 

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Not to belabor the point, but the Lions, clearly (and finally) an ascending team, traded him to Philly for a fifth round pick in 2025 and swapping 7ths in the last draft. I understand they drafted a highly regarded running back, but they have to be the team most familiar with Swift. And that’s what they were willing to take for him. If Swift performs better than Pollard I’ll join the “Roseman is a Genius“ ranks with half the others posting here. I still say ham and egger.
Lol…it’s the Lions. They drafted a RB high in the first round, and it wasn’t Bijan. Yes the guy they got was another projected first rounder, but no one had him going that high.

So your whole theory is based on the hope that Lions front office is better at evaluating talent than the Eagles front office.

The Lions didn’t dislike Swift….they just wanted another RB on a rookie deal, so they got rid of the one that was a closer to wanting a new/better deal. I think they reached a bit, but we’ll see.
 

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Understand what you are trying to say, but Pollard or Swift right now who would you choose if only 1.
Pollard He’s healthier in my opinion that means more reliable I know I don’t seem like it because he just got hurt last year but I’m taking Pollard
 

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Pollard He’s healthier in my opinion that means more reliable I know I don’t seem like it because he just got hurt last year but I’m taking Pollard
Lol…How could you possibly know if he’s healthier than Swift at this moment?
 

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Lol…How could you possibly know if he’s healthier than Swift at this moment?
The info lid on Pollard is sealed tighter than a frogs ***, and what we know is only from limited medical that has been available for viewing.
We should hope that this FO feels extremely positive about Pollards early return, if not they blew an opportunity to take a RB earlier in this stacked class.
 

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I bet Swift has a really good year behind that OLine and they let him walk and get a comp pick for him. That's seems to be their strategy.
But I have no idea what the heck Detroit was thinking. They had 2 first round picks and are an up and coming team and select a RB and a MLB? Dumb. Just really dumb.
 

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I think they are likely banking these ratings on upside. And the upside of Philly pretty much tops everyone. I wouldn't have minded us taking a flier on Penny, even with his injury history. If he can somehow stay healthy, he's got big upside. Pairing him with Pollard, which would have limited his carries for sure, may have kept him healthy for longer.

I think we have a really good team heading into 2023 but Philly is also really, really loaded offensively. And they have a good DL and a good secondary, LB appears to be a big question mark.

Having said that, in looking at some of the more advanced stats from 2022, I could see some regression in Hurts.
Penny would be the perfect complement to Pollard. He was so cheap too.
 

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I know what it says.

The Giants have the best back so they have the best rotation. Matt Breida vs. Kenneth Gainwell is irrelevant.
Lol, I think you may be a little confused. Depth matters in the nfl…. Especially at RB. Gone are the days of one workhorse back.
 

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I bet Swift has a really good year behind that OLine and they let him walk and get a comp pick for him. That's seems to be their strategy.
But I have no idea what the heck Detroit was thinking. They had 2 first round picks and are an up and coming team and select a RB and a MLB? Dumb. Just really dumb.
He is from Philly and I think I read they were already trying to sign him to an extension.
 
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