NFL Penalizing Salary Cap for Cowboys and Commanders

The Natural;4449342 said:
You may want to grab another bottle

The Bears will go into the hours leading to the start of free agency considered around the league to be the favorite in the competition to sign defensive end Mario Williams away from the Houston Texans, CSNChicago.com has learned from a number of NFL sources.

Great, instead of teaming him with Ware, the Bears are trying to team him with Peppers.

And here I thought tomorrow might be one of the most exciting days of our offseason in years, it suddenly could become the biggest letdown cause we might not even be able to be in the chase.
 
Deep_Freeze;4449365 said:
Great, instead of teaming him with Ware, the Bears are trying to team him with Peppers.

And here I thought tomorrow might be one of the most exciting days of our offseason in years, it suddenly could become the biggest letdown cause we might not even be able to be in the chase.
Pretty much how I am feeling right now.

I hope we're aggressive but i'm not expecting it.
 
Doomsay;4449332 said:
If it was reasonably anticipated that pre-lockout cuts were going to wipe away any future dead-money cap hits, then this was a profound management blunder - given that fact that we were already pre-disposed to unload a number of expensive contracts replete with future cap implications.

There was no reason to anticipate that it *would* happen. There was a chance that the dead money *might* be eliminated, but that was contrary to the rules of the CBA. Some teams took a chance and won. We didn't, and we're still paying for it.
 
Deep_Freeze;4449365 said:
Great, instead of teaming him with Ware, the Bears are trying to team him with Peppers.

And here I thought tomorrow might be one of the most exciting days of our offseason in years, it suddenly could become the biggest letdown cause we might not even be able to be in the chase.

If the Bears get him, I'll be beyond pissed. They were worse than we were with the way they structured Peppers and they got off absolutely free.
 
Deep_Freeze;4449365 said:
Great, instead of teaming him with Ware, the Bears are trying to team him with Peppers.

And here I thought tomorrow might be one of the most exciting days of our offseason in years, it suddenly could become the biggest letdown cause we might not even be able to be in the chase.


Dallas was NEVER signing Williams, he's a 4-3 guy..
 
Deep_Freeze;4449365 said:
Great, instead of teaming him with Ware, the Bears are trying to team him with Peppers.

And here I thought tomorrow might be one of the most exciting days of our offseason in years, it suddenly could become the biggest letdown cause we might not even be able to be in the chase.

Yep, gonna suck big time. I heard that Jerry's plane was seen headed to visit Marco Rivera, Greg Ellis, and Anthony Herny's homes to see if they have anything left. :(
 
ok 5 mil is not going to break us and if they decided to take a 5 mil hit this year then they already have plans. This didn't change anything this year. If we re going to get MW then we will get him, 10 mil cap reduction or not.
 
This is crap. The Commanders game plan is obvious. Get their QB then fill in holes via free agency. The league just hammered them after they gave up their next three drafts.

Jerry and Dan need to file an injunction now and take the NFL to court. No court is going to side with the league on this kind of punishment over something that wasn't a rule.
 
sonnyboy;4449327 said:
Wait a minute......Isn't that exactly what the Skins got nailed for in the Haynesworth contract?

Are you saying that in addition to other teams structuring deals similar to Miles', we had even more teams that did exactly what the Skins did..........yet we and the Skins are the only temas getting nailed for it?????

How is this fair or legal?

The Skins didn't cut players, though. They simply turned 2011 and beyond for McNabb, Hall and Haynesworth into voidable years within the players' control, which made all of their bonus prorations accelerate into the uncapped year. But what were the chances that Hall was going to pay the Commanders $26 million to void the rest of his bloated contract? Or Haynesworth $16.8 million? Or McNabb $30 million?

Those deals were questionable at best when they happened. The fact that they got penalized for them shouldn't be a surprise.
 
Just doesn't make sense. How can the league approve the Austin contract then whack us for it two years later. Screw them.
 
well, you can now probably kiss Laurant Robinson goodbye and see a long term deal with Spencer coming
 
The Quest for Six;4449388 said:
well, you can now probably kiss Laurant Robinson goodbye and see a long term deal with Spencer coming

A long term deal for Spencer would likely reduce his current $8.8mm 2012 cap hit, making it easier to re-sign Robinson, no?
 
speedkilz88;4449360 said:
I remember and there was definitely talk around the league that teams wouldn't get away with unloading those contracts before the new cba.

I remember uncertainty regarding the practice, but not any warnings from the league.

If they are going to unwind this fairly, all transactions completed during 2010 should have any cap advantages that were realized reversed and applied over the 2012 and 2013 seasons - anything else is arbitrary.
 
The Quest for Six;4449388 said:
well, you can now probably kiss Laurant Robinson goodbye and see a long term deal with Spencer coming

Ahhh your going overboard with your usual negativity.....lol

It does limit us some, but not to the point to where we would have to let Laurant walk. While it is true that it did limit us more, with the option of putting most or all off til next year, we can still make some good moves.

Now, before we talked about keeping maybe a Spencer or Laurant or both while getting Mario, whereas now, we would probably have to let both go to really go after Mario.
 
The Quest for Six;4449388 said:
well, you can now probably kiss Laurant Robinson goodbye and see a long term deal with Spencer coming

Not true about Robinson.

The Cowboys can create as much room as they need to sign him.
 
It depends on what the club decides to do with the options avaiable. We can still create $20 to $25m in cap space its just that next year will see us lose less that $27m off the cap. Its not the end of the world and we can still do quite a bit.

The thing that gets me is that Goodell waited until the last day to do this to the two largest franchises in the NFL. That tells me he is expecting some blowback but is trying to handcuff the two clubs responses.

The clubs themselves have made no statements yet have they?
 
Deep_Freeze;4449399 said:
Ahhh your going overboard with your usual negativity.....lol

It does limit us some, but not to the point to where we would have to let Laurant walk. While it is true that it did limit us more, with the option of putting most or all off til next year, we can still make some good moves.

Now, before we talked about keeping maybe a Spencer or Laurant or both while getting Mario, whereas now, we would probably have to let both go to really go after Mario.


Dallas is never sigining Maio Williams, he's a defensive end in a 4-3 scheme...

I don't want Spencer here for one year, let alone a long term deal. Just what we need, Signing Bennett back, a second round bust!!
 

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