NFL players don’t vote Dallas Cowboys QB Tony Romo among league’s top 100 players

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zack;5103534 said:
Two things here that peeks my interest. Doesn't sound like players officially vote for the top 100 players.

And if you think that Cam Newton and Colin Capernick should be ahead of him, that is pretty funny. Neither one can read a defense, and one can only throw to the right side of the field. If anything, Capernick choked the SB away last season. He had Randy Moss wide open on back side slants at least 2 times, but failed to even look on the left side of the field. But he can sure run fast!

I wouldn't say Colin choked the super bowl away.. the super bowl literally came down to the last throw. 300 yards passing, 60 yards rushing, 1 td passing and one throwing with only one INT is not throwing the game away.

Throwing for 200 yards and 3 interceptions in the final game of the regular season with the division and playoffs on the line is throwing the game away.
 

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zack;5103534 said:
Two things here that peeks my interest. Doesn't sound like players officially vote for the top 100 players.

And if you think that Cam Newton and Colin Capernick should be ahead of him, that is pretty funny. Neither one can read a defense, and one can only throw to the right side of the field. If anything, Capernick choked the SB away last season. He had Randy Moss wide open on back side slants at least 2 times, but failed to even look on the left side of the field. But he can sure run fast!

I have never said that Cam or Colin was any better. I do like Colin though. He is young and has good potential. I am not a Romo basher, but he is the man that has a habit of making some stupid mistakes in some big games. It has happened several times. You add the huge contract and the fact that he plays for Dallas, the terms overpayed and overrated come to mind. I think these things factored in the voting. I think the list is a joke any way you look at it.
 

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ufcrules1;5103552 said:
I wouldn't say Colin choked the super bowl away.. the super bowl literally came down to the last throw. 300 yards passing, 60 yards rushing, 1 td passing and one throwing with only one INT is not throwing the game away.

Throwing for 200 yards and 3 interceptions in the final game of the regular season with the division and playoffs on the line is throwing the game away.

It is a case of tearing down another player to defend Romo. It is a weak arguement to compare the situations.
 

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Vanilla2;5103549 said:
And Matt Ryan is top 20.

IMO he's the same Player as romo, he just has better PR.

Y'all would have eaten the ice moniker for lunch if it were attached to Romo.
Not in 2012, they weren't.

The list is not supposed to be based on anything prior to last year. It's supposed to be based on how players did last year and how well they're expected to do next year. Yes, there will be some players who get the benefit of the doubt due to their past accomplishments (like Eli Manning), but unfortunately Romo doesn't have any accomplishments to fall back on. 2nd Best 4th Quarter QB Rating isn't gonna stick in any player's mind when they're voting...two-time Super Bowl MVP will.

Not to mention, Ryan threw more TDs in the playoffs last year than Romo has thrown in the playoffs in his entire career. And it could be argued that Ryan seems to be getting better while Romo is not.

People just need to accept that, no, the entire league is not enamored with Tony Romo...he's never ranked higher than 70, I think. Had they done these Top 100 Players lists back in 2006, Romo probably would have ranked on the list...after 2007 he'd most likely would have made the top 20. Everyone here would be popping champagne bottles lol. It's just his bad luck that he had gained the reputation as a QB who doesn't seem to show up big in the biggest games before they started doing the lists. And he's done little to make people think otherwise since then.
 

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Shunpike;5103547 said:
As a Giants fan I would put him in Top 100 without any question. He may not be a Top 5 QB but he is in the Second 5 for sure. This has gotta do with the money he is getting. Jealousy might be a factor.

I have at least all of these QB's below above Romo. Guys like Cam Newton, Matthew Stafford, Joe Flacco, etc are right on the same level with Romo. I have Romo ranked somewhere between 12-15 which is essentially middle of the pack.

Aaron Rodgers
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Peyton Manning
Eli Manning
Ben Roethelisburger
Andrew Luck
Colin Kaepernick
RG3
Russell Wilson
Matt Ryan
 

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ufcrules1;5103552 said:
I wouldn't say Colin choked the super bowl away.. the super bowl literally came down to the last throw. 300 yards passing, 60 yards rushing, 1 td passing and one throwing with only one INT is not throwing the game away.

Throwing for 200 yards and 3 interceptions in the final game of the regular season with the division and playoffs on the line is throwing the game away.
What's the difference between passing and throwing?
These lists are a joke anyways. How can it be a players poll and NO Cowboys voted?
 

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Califan007;5103559 said:
Not in 2012, they weren't.

The list is not supposed to be based on anything prior to last year. It's supposed to be based on how players did last year and how well they're expected to do next year. Yes, there will be some players who get the benefit of the doubt due to their past accomplishments (like Eli Manning), but unfortunately Romo doesn't have any accomplishments to fall back on. 2nd Best 4th Quarter QB Rating isn't gonna stick in any player's mind when they're voting...two-time Super Bowl MVP will.

Not to mention, Ryan threw more TDs in the playoffs last year than Romo has thrown in the playoffs in his entire career. And it could be argued that Ryan seems to be getting better while Romo is not.

People just need to accept that, no, the entire league is not enamored with Tony Romo...he's never ranked higher than 70, I think. Had they done these Top 100 Players lists back in 2006, Romo probably would have ranked on the list...after 2007 he'd most likely would have made the top 20. Everyone here would be popping champagne bottles lol. It's just his bad luck that he had gained the reputation as a QB who doesn't seem to show up big in the biggest games before they started doing the lists. And he's done little to make people think otherwise since then.

All I'm saying is

Matt Ryan has the same big game issues as Romo.

This stuff is just fodder for the haters.

I personally don't care bout the list.

And LOL at you moving the goal posts.
 

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Vanilla2;5103564 said:
All I'm saying is

Matt Ryan has the same big game issues as Romo.

Not in 2012, he didn't.

Ryan got his team to the NFC Championship Game. He had a QB rating in the Championship Game of 114.8. He averaged 9.4 yards per attempt in that game as well. Had 3 TDs and just 1 INT. He completed over 70% of his passes in that NFC Championship Game. Romo's never gotten to the NFC Championship Game, nonetheless had a game like that in the playoffs on any level.


And LOL at you moving the goal posts.
I'm not even sure what the hell that means lol...
 

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I don't think there needs to be a validated list to say that Romo is a top 100 player in the league. I think it's pretty obvious that he is.

You seriously do not need to look any further than the guy they have at number 100. Romo is a better player than Dennis Pitta overall and at his respective position.
 

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TheCount;5103526 said:
Maybe if he hadn't crapped the bed against the Commanders, he'd have snuck in, but that was a big stage to decide to reinforce every negative stereotype about yourself.

Agreed. He should definetely be on the list though.
 

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If Romo was the starting QB on any other team besides the Cowboys he would be on the list. In Dallas you have to be head and shoulders above your peers to be considered above average by the rest of the league and and writers.
 

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Ware is not worthy of #12? Didn't Ware play the last stretch of the season with one arm?
Ware had 11.5 sacks and 5 FF to finish the season..

I also find it odd that old players like Warner can question guys like Ware but will stick up for players like Romo as if they are all world.
 

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jnday;5103555 said:
It is a case of tearing down another player to defend Romo. It is a weak arguement to compare the situations.

Ok. So, you are comfortable with a QB who can only throw to one side of the field and this has nothing to do with tearing down another player. It has been discussed on multiple times on NFL radio that Colin did not throw to the left side of the field. Go back and watch that last series. You want to put a guy in front of Romo that is fine.

You can't tell me that Randy Moss was not wide open on the back side slant. If I am not mistaken, someone who makes the same argument that Romo has great stats all through out the game, but can't seal the deal, chokes. Wouldn't this apply to Colin? Sure he had all the great stats, running, etc., but didn't get it done on the last series. And if you don't think that it doesn't have anything to do with him, you are wrong. If he knew how to read the defense and throw to the left side of the field, the 49ers would be SB champs.
 

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Eddie;5103543 said:
Sounds like a jealous Cowboys fan to me.

There isn't a team in the NFL, CFL, AFL, or CIA who would take Romo over Kapernick.

I'm not jealous. Let's see what happens this year. I can't wait till defensive coordinator lay the wood on him every time he tries the read option. I just think it is funny that you would put him above Romo based on less than a full season of work. I don't think Colin would have success without a great running game. If he is forced to read coverage and drop back to pass, I don't think he would be as successful....
 

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Section444;5103537 said:
The guy simply isn't a top player in the league, and he never will be until he wins something of significance.
What has RGIII won that is "of significance?"
 

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Section444;5103537 said:
The guy simply isn't a top player in the league, and he never will be until he wins something of significance.
Andrew Luck won something of significance? Cam Newton?

I think people on this board get a little too hard on Romo. Yeah, his INT against the Commanders cost us the game, but Tony's leadership put the Cowboys in the position to play for a postseason slot in the last game of the season. He may not be Top Ten QB material (debatable) but to exclude him from the Top 100 altogether is a farce.
 

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cajuncocoa;5103578 said:
Andrew Luck won something of significance? Cam Newton?

I think people on this board get a little too hard on Romo. Yeah, his INT against the Commanders cost us the game, but Tony's leadership put the Cowboys in the position to play for a postseason slot in the last game of the season. He may not be Top Ten QB material (debatable) but to exclude him from the Top 100 altogether is a farce.
Would this list really be anymore valid in your eyes if Romo came in at #89, though?
 

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Califan007;5103580 said:
Would this list really be anymore valid in your eyes if Romo came in at #89, though?
Yeah, it would. I would be disappointed that he didn't do better, but I would understand why he didn't.
 

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cajuncocoa;5103582 said:
Yeah, it would. I would be disappointed that he didn't do better, but I would understand why he didn't.
To me, #89 and #101 are pretty much the same thing. Probably very little separating the rankings when you get down that low on the list. If Romo was #101, he'd still be off the list.

I think in the past they did do that once...show the players ranked #101-120 or something.
 
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