NFL players don’t vote Dallas Cowboys QB Tony Romo among league’s top 100 players

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zack;5103574 said:
Ok. So, you are comfortable with a QB who can only throw to one side of the field and this has nothing to do with tearing down another player. It has been discussed on multiple times on NFL radio that Colin did not throw to the left side of the field. Go back and watch that last series. You want to put a guy in front of Romo that is fine.

You can't tell me that Randy Moss was not wide open on the back side slant. If I am not mistaken, someone who makes the same argument that Romo has great stats all through out the game, but can't seal the deal, chokes. Wouldn't this apply to Colin? Sure he had all the great stats, running, etc., but didn't get it done on the last series. And if you don't think that it doesn't have anything to do with him, you are wrong. If he knew how to read the defense and throw to the left side of the field, the 49ers would be SB champs.

Young QB with potential is what I like about Colin. He has won playoff games and been to a Super Bowl. With that being said, he has nothing to do with Romo not making the list, nothing. There are many players that on the list that can be questioned. This is not a list for QBs only. No need in bashing him or any other player because Romo didn't make it. Romo has a reputation of blowing big games. Not all of them, but he has made some dumb decisions when put in those situations. There is no denying that.

You are bashing Colin because of one drive in one big game. He didn't throw to an open reciever. This happens to every QB on just about every other play. Second guessing a QB on what he sees is easy to do. Colin stats in the Super Bowl was pointed out in a earlier post. He didn't throw several INTs in critical situations to lose the game. No he didn't choke, but I will give him credit for winning the playoff games to reach the Super Bowl. At his young age he has won more playoff games than Romo.
 

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Future;5103577 said:
What has RGIII won that is "of significance?"

He led his previous 6-10 team to a division win and the playoffs as a ROOKIE. Did I mention his team sucked badly too?
 

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jnday;5103586 said:
Young QB with potential is what I like about Colin. He has won playoff games and been to a Super Bowl. With that being said, he has nothing to do with Romo not making the list, nothing. There are many players that on the list that can be questioned. This is not a list for QBs only. No need in bashing him or any other player because Romo didn't make it. Romo has a reputation of blowing big games. Not all of them, but he has made some dumb decisions when put in those situations. There is no denying that.

You are bashing Colin because of one drive in one big game. He didn't throw to an open reciever. This happens to every QB on just about every other play. Second guessing a QB on what he sees is easy to do. Colin stats in the Super Bowl was pointed out in a earlier post. He didn't throw several INTs in critical situations to lose the game. No he didn't choke, but I will give him credit for winning the playoff games to reach the Super Bowl. At his young age he has won more playoff games than Romo.

Yes, I consider that a big miss in my opinion. Why is he not held to the high standard like every other QB? If that were Flacco and he missed an open receiver twice, he would have been crucified. It is a read, and he improperly read the defense, not once, but twice. Would you give Romo a pass?

Colin happens to play on one of the most complete teams in the NFL, that you can't deny. The roster is littered with first round draft picks and an extremely solid coaching staff. He runs essentially a Quincy Carter offense. His reads are to one side of the field, with 3 different levels.

I can care less about popularity contests, which is what the top 100 list is. What I can't stand, when they say that this QB is better than that QB...blah, blah, blah...and there is not enough body of work yet....
 

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PA Cowboy Fan;5103588 said:
The NFC East title over Romo and the Cowboys.

ufcrules1;5103600 said:
He led his previous 6-10 team to a division win and the playoffs as a ROOKIE. Did I mention his team sucked badly too?
Romo hasn't won a division title? Romo didnt turn a 9-7 team in 2006 to a 13-3 in 2007? Romo didn't play with a terrible defense and OLine last year? Didn't he play really well in a win and in game in 09 against the Eagles, before beating them in the playoffs the next week?

Get out. To think that RGIII has done anything to suggest that he is a better QB than Romo is absurd. Better athlete, sure, but he has done squat.
 

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jnday;5103532 said:
Good point. He does little to help his reputation when he screws up in big games. If it is a big game with national TV coverage, he falls apart.

Yes he has. Just like Don Meredith, Morton, Staubach, White and Aikman have. He's also won some big games in the national spotlight. Like the first NY game last year. NOs and Indy to name a few. Of course both Mannings have done the same act. Along with every other QB that ever played. The closest one to win most of them was Otto Graham but even he wasn't perfect.

OTOH, Rome needs to win a few more if he wants to change perception and even some reality.
 

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Future;5103607 said:
Romo hasn't won a division title? Romo didnt turn a 9-7 team in 2006 to a 13-3 in 2007? Romo didn't play with a terrible defense and OLine last year? Didn't he play really well in a win and in game in 09 against the Eagles, before beating them in the playoffs the next week?

Get out. To think that RGIII has done anything to suggest that he is a better QB than Romo is absurd. Better athlete, sure, but he has done squat.
He did more in 2012. I'm not talking about of all time. Romo has clearly done more overall. I'm not sure Griffith will last with the way he plays but he was very good last year.
 

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I don't have much argument with that list. I don't think many GM's would take Romo over any on that list.
 

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burmafrd;5103551 said:
and Ryan choked big time in the playoffs last year.

All these lists are worth nothing more than a bucket of warm spit

...but Roger's word is the gospel?
 

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The only thing that bothers me is the list is for this year instead of last year. It should be the top 100 for 2012 because they haven't even gone to training camp yet in 2013.
 

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This list seems to be about 50 players opinions. You rarely see star players contributing. For some reason they poll guys like jordan babineaux instead of good players at the same position.
 

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Califan007;5103569 said:
Not in 2012, he didn't.

Ryan got his team to the NFC Championship Game. He had a QB rating in the Championship Game of 114.8. He averaged 9.4 yards per attempt in that game as well. Had 3 TDs and just 1 INT. He completed over 70% of his passes in that NFC Championship Game. Romo's never gotten to the NFC Championship Game, nonetheless had a game like that in the playoffs on any level.


I'm not even sure what the hell that means lol...
Ryan won 1 Playoff game. Same as Romo. Ryan didn't win multiple playoffs games to get them to the NFC Championship game. :rolleyes:
 

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So the 20 players that voted didn't put Romo on their top 100 list? Interesting, I think I'll take this information with a grain of salt. I'll take this list serious when it's an actual poll where every team has players vote in it.

Also D.Ware was 12 on the list, I actually found that funny, he was hurt all year and had a down year to his standards.
 

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Califan007;5103585 said:
To me, #89 and #101 are pretty much the same thing. Probably very little separating the rankings when you get down that low on the list. If Romo was #101, he'd still be off the list.

I think in the past they did do that once...show the players ranked #101-120 or something.

Not to split hairs or anything, but #89 and #101 are not the same. They're 12 positions apart. The main point, however, is not whether Romo is #89 or #101, but was he a better QB in 2012 than Cam Newton or Andrew Luck? IMO, the answer is "yes".
 

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Muhast;5103664 said:
This list seems to be about 50 players opinions. You rarely see star players contributing. For some reason they poll guys like jordan babineaux instead of good players at the same position.

Wait a minute...only 50 players voted? I didn't realize that, and it changes the significance of the rankings considerably (as in, not significant at all!)

Who chooses who gets to vote? Do they have to take a pledge to hate the Dallas Cowboys, or something? :bang2:
 

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Future;5103577 said:
What has RGIII won that is "of significance?"


It's not just about who has or has not won anything of "significance".

Who would you takes as your QB if given a choice between Romo and RGIII?
 

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Avenger;5103723 said:
It's not just about winning and losing.

Who would you takes as your QB if given a choice between Romo and RGIII?

Depends, if I was asked who I would want for the next 2-3 years then I'd take Romo, but if the question was who I would want for the next decade then that would be RG3.

Honestly I'm not so sure if all the break out QBs from last year keep up there production this upcoming year. So I think we all should wait 2-3 years and see what they do before jumping the gun and calling these guys top tier (or even 2nd tier) QBs. JMO
 

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Ultra Warrior;5103709 said:
Ryan won 1 Playoff game. Same as Romo. Ryan didn't win multiple playoffs games to get them to the NFC Championship game. :rolleyes:
Nope, sorry...teams win/lose games, remember? That's what's always said about Romo, anyway. All we can look at is the individual performance and production by a player. I"ve read numerous times here that Romo played well enough for the Cowboys to win but his WRs/OL/Defense let him down. Well how exactly do you categorize Matt Ryan's individual production in the playoffs this year, regardless of whether or not the Falcons won or loss? He was damn good. Meanwhile Romo, in his elimination game, threw 3 INTs including the one that gave the game away.

Again, just going off of last year, Matt Ryan and Tony Romo were not essentially the same. Ryan was noticeably better.
 

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cajuncocoa;5103721 said:
Wait a minute...only 50 players voted? I didn't realize that, and it changes the significance of the rankings considerably (as in, not significant at all!)

Who chooses who gets to vote? Do they have to take a pledge to hate the Dallas Cowboys, or something? :bang2:
No...that's just some urban myth that keeps getting repeated here on CZ lol..."Only 50 people voted"..."Only like 20 people voted"..."nobody asked any Cowboys players to vote"...

None of it's true.
 
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