NFL's hardest hitter per NFL Live

[yazzmode621]

Tackles and hits are not done specifically to injure a player. I played too, at a higher level than you and no players do not look down on the horse collar tackle. Chop blocks, yeah they do. I'll gladly give you the usernames of every other guy on here that I know who played if you want to ask them if I'm talking out of my hind quarters. In juries happen. We as players all understand (or understood) that.

Your claim he is trying to hurt people is ridiculous. Period. You would be advised to drop it because trust me you haven't got the ammo or the patience to withstand the barrage that will come your way if you continue to take this stance. It's football. If you want a politically correct version of it write your Senator, but don't try to sell it here.

The horse collar tackle isn't dirty, and never has been. You're just too tender. Sorry, that's just a fact.

Injuries do happen. LT ending Theismann's career is an injury that just happened. He didnt mean to end his career, but it happened. Nothing wrong with hitting the crap out of someone.

Horse-collar tackling is a cheap and dirty play. If it wasnt looked down upon, then why weren't players(other than RW) doing that on a normal basis? Looking at the way RW horse-collared TO, there was no reason for him to do that other than he wanted to injure him. He could've just throw TO down but instead he chose to hold on to TO until he had perfect positioning and DRAGGED him down! I'm sorry but that's cheap and dirty in my book. If you want to hurt a player, do it like a man. Dont do it like a punk.

 

[superpunk]

Quick....someone make me a mod.

Just for like....three seconds.

 

[yazzmode621]

I had a nice conversation with you last night via PM. I appreciate that. If you did too, great. If not, oh well.

What I say now isn't meant to insult you, so if you are, I don't know what to tell you.

You are, hands down, without a doubt, the biggest homer I have ever come across for any team in 36 years of being a football fan on all levels.

I have never seen such blatant hypocrisy and apologetic attitude for players on your own team and condescending opinions with no facts to back it up for players outside your team. You're a hypocrite.

For the record, Sean Taylor using the horse collar tackle does NOT make him a dirty player. It is part of the game. So save me the drama queen finger pointing back because the stereotype will not fit.

Yea we had a nice conversation, surprisingly!

I'm not insulted by you calling me the biggest homer you've ever seen. I do, however, think that you're over exagerrating.

Bottom line RW is known for horse-collar tackling for a reason. You and any other Cowboys fan I've talked to deny this. I know its a tough pill to swallow.

 

[yazzmode621]

Link please.

I don't know why I ask, you haven't offered one shred of proof on anything asked for yet.

I'll look for it. I dont have it bookmarked but I will try to find it.

 

[yazzmode621]

Bingo.

But as yazzy-boy sits back in his 21 jersey on sunday's, and ridicules the games hardest hitter for being a dirty player - none of this matters. He claims to know Roy Williams' intent when he tackles a player - somehow when he reads Taylor's mind, the outcome is different.

Honestly, I'm shocked.

Roy Williams is the hardest hitter in the league!? And I'm the HOMER!?

 

[Hostile]

Injuries do happen. LT ending Theismann's career is an injury that just happened. He didnt mean to end his career, but it happened. Nothing wrong with hitting the crap out of someone.

Horse-collar tackling is a cheap and dirty play. If it wasnt looked down upon, then why weren't players(other than RW) doing that on a normal basis? Looking at the way RW horse-collared TO, there was no reason for him to do that other than he wanted to injure him. He could've just throw TO down but instead he chose to hold on to TO until he had perfect positioning and DRAGGED him down! I'm sorry but that's cheap and dirty in my book. If you want to hurt a player, do it like a man. Dont do it like a punk.

No, it isn't. Toughen up.

 

[superpunk]

Bottom line RW is known for horse-collar tackling for a reason. You and any other Cowboys fan I've talked to deny this.

Another lie.

Find me posts from every Cowboys fan in this thread that say Roy Williams does not horse collar - that he is not known for it.

Get your head on straight, skippy.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I consider a dirty player someone who cheats in any way he can to gain an advantage. Sean Taylor was extremely stupid for spitting on Pittman's face. But it wasnt dirty IMO.

:laugh1: ok, what was it then? professional discourtesy?

I dont understand how TO gets a fresh start now that hes a Cowboy. So you mean to tell me you're not going to judge TO on past transgressions but will judge Taylor on them? Kind of a double standard. Besides, TO was a jerk in S.F., had a fresh start in Philly and screwed up there too. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.

well TO's problems have alwasy revolved around money, now he's getting it, so there's reason to believe that he will shut up and behave, who knows what makes ST tick and act like an idiot

 

[Bob Sacamano]

He played dirty in order to injure TO.

really? you mean to tell me you can read minds?

 

[Hostile]

Yea we had a nice conversation, surprisingly!

I'm not insulted by you calling me the biggest homer you've ever seen. I do, however, think that you're over exagerrating.

Bottom line RW is known for horse-collar tackling for a reason. You and any other Cowboys fan I've talked to deny this. I know its a tough pill to swallow.

No, I'm not exagerrating, you really are.

How else do you explain that you know the intent of a man's heart?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Sean Taylor DOES NOT intentionally horse-collar people

yep, it's official, you can read minds

 

[Hostile]

I'll look for it. I dont have it bookmarked but I will try to find it.

You won't find it. He said he'd comply with the rule. You're speaking without knowing jack.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

(yes he does enjoy it that is why he said that he would still continue to horse collar even if they made it illegal).

so is he any different from the players who still used the horse-collar after the rule was implemented? there were at least 4 players who used the horse-collar who were never flagged, or fined, Roy wasn't 1 of them

that comment just means he'll continue to play the game he always has, which is bringing down the opponent any way possible, if that's considered dirty by your standards, but not by his peers in the NFL, than so be it

 

[yazzmode621]

No, it isn't. Toughen up.

yes it is. AND FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME IT DOESNT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BEING TOUGH!!!!!!! Its a cheap move!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

If it wasnt looked down upon, then why weren't players(other than RW) doing that on a normal basis?

Roy doesn't do it on a normal basis, show me 2 consecutive games at any point in his career where he's horse-collared someone, for the illiterate, that means 2 weeks, back-to-back, where the horse-collar was imposed by ROy Williams, you won't be able to

and there were at least 4 players who horse-collared someone after the rule was implemented last year, and who weren't flagged, or fined, and none of those instances were Roy Williams

 

[Hostile]

yes it is. AND FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME IT DOESNT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BEING TOUGH!!!!!!! Its a cheap move!

Oh oh, now I'm being shouted at in all caps. Sure sign of defeat.

Actually it has everything to do with being tough. The sissified version of the game is for lace panties.

 

[superpunk]

yes it is. AND FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME IT DOESNT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BEING TOUGH!!!!!!! Its a cheap move!

and we've established that Taylor does, indeed, perform that cheap move.

So, logically, that would make Taylor (by your criteria) a ______ player.

can anyone fill in this blank for me? Or am I living in some parallel universe where the laws of logic no longer apply?

 

[yazzmode621]

:laugh1: ok, what was it then? professional discourtesy?




well TO's problems have alwasy revolved around money, now he's getting it, so there's reason to believe that he will shut up and behave, who knows what makes ST tick and act like an idiot

ST spitting on Pittman's face was a stupid, thuggish move. I cant call it a punk move because he did it right in front of his face so he wasnt being a punk. And for the last time, I dont consider it dirty because to me a dirty player is a player who cheats in any which way he can TO GAIN AN ADVANTAGE.

Also, TO's problems being about money are totally false. He accused McNaab of being tired in the SB and that they would've been better off with Favre. He told his OC to not talk to him unless TO talks to him first. He accused Jeff Garcia of being gay. He was the first person I have ever seen who was traded to a team but somehow got it reversed and went to the team that he wanted to go to. So as you can see, TO has A LOT MORE problems than just money.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So, logically, that would make Taylor (by your criteria) a POS person.

I filled it in, and modified it

 

[yazzmode621]

No, I'm not exagerrating, you really are.

How else do you explain that you know the intent of a man's heart?

I think you are.

If you look at that play you can see how he tries to hurt him. For the last time: He could've taken him down even just by doing a normal horse collar but he grabs on to him, sets himself in perfect position and DRAGS him down. Anyone(other than Cowboys fans) can see that he had malicious intent.