NFL's highest-rated passer is a Cowboy

[TheMarathonContinues]

Romo has warranted hate? Please

The guy has had times in games where he's made boneheaded mistakes. We can't sit here and complain about this teams lack of post season success and than just exclude Romo. He can't get the credit for when we do well but be immune to when we don't. He hasn't been flawless here.

 

[Staubacher]

The guy has had times in games where he's made boneheaded mistakes. We can't sit here and complain about this teams lack of post season success and than just exclude Romo. He can't get the credit for when we do well but be immune to when we don't. He hasn't been flawless here.

Flawless and hate are two different worlds.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Flawless and hate are two different worlds.

Well maybe "hate" is the wrong word to use here. He's deserved the criticism that has faced him throughout his career. He doesn't deserve "hate".

 

[ConstantReboot]

I disagree. I guess it depends on how good you think Romo is. I personally think he's closer to Aaron Rodgers then he is Andy Dalton. He's always been a top 10 quarterback even with his lack of success in the postseason.

So when I hear people say....."Oh well Romo doesn't have a great #2, great offensive line, great coaching or a great defense..."...its almost like people feel he needs a ALL PRO team in order to be successful lol. Tom Brady doesn't have great receivers. Aaron Rodgers doesn't have a great line.

Like I said, I'm Romo's biggest fan. I agree he has gotten unfair criticism. But in this league you are defined by your playoff success. Cowboy fans had no problem bringing up how Ware didn't make the "meaningful" sack or how he doesn't have much post season success.

This Romo we have today is not the Romo we have always had. I can't not agree with that. There was a time when Romo use throw INT's and it would be okay because its like throwing punts. The guy was careless with the football. He was known as a gunslinger. Very similar to Brett Favre. He's no longer that. So I can't sit here and say he's the same qb. As of right now he's far more effecient and careful with the ball than he ever has been. Now if you want to credit that to the offensive line than that's fine but this game isn't won just by a offensive line. There are times where the offensive line is going to miss assignments and we have to rely on Romo and he's come through. By far his best year as a Cowboy.

Were gonna have to agree to disagree. Like I mentioned before Romo is someone that needs a team built to support him. I don't think he can carry the team. Plus, he needs to be consistently coached. Its not accident that he sits and talks to Linehan all game long talking about strategies which he didn't do when Garrett was OC.

I to believe that Romo is closer to Aaron Rogers. But he still needs the support of the team. Aaron is great because they built an entire system to use Aaron's mobility. Romo on the other hand was forced into a system that didn't suite him. I still think that Garrett's playbook hindered Romo all this years coupled with a lack of Oline, running game and a defense.

Aaron Rogers may not have a great Oline like the Cowboys but the coaches built a system to take advantage of his mobility. They practice broken plays which utilizes Roger's mobility and scrambling. On the other hand Romo was given the playbook from the 90s which made him a dropback passer.

I think Romo is top #3 and has always been that way. He has a bad wrap as a choker for no reason - which baffles me since he is the highest rated passer in the 4th quarter and has lead more comebacks than any QB since 2010 except Payton. Romo has always been great and its not even fair that he's always been scrubbed for the probowl compared to other QBs he has outplayed. Its only now that he's beginning to shine brighter because he has an OC that gives him guidance and a team that doesn't always have to rely on him to win games.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I agree 110% with you. BUT playing devils advocate......I also see the other side of the coin of those who criticize him for his lack of playoff success or appearances. I believe Romo is a elite talent in this league but I also understand the opposing argument for why he's not as well.

Its funny that Romo gets a bad wrap while Rivers is praised as a great QB and he and Romo has almost identical stats, etc. However, people place Rivers with names like Rogers, Brady and Peyton while Romo is a choker in December.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Its funny that Romo gets a bad wrap while Rivers is praised as a great QB and he and Romo has almost identical stats, etc. However, people place Rivers with names like Rogers, Brady and Peyton while Romo is a choker in December.

I've seen Rivers get criticized as well. There's always been the top 4 QB's in this league. Its been Brees, Peyton, Rodgers and Brady. All Super Bowl champions and all are media darlings who everyone loves. Rivers got praise earlier this year for his play because at one point he was playing like the best QB in the league. That has changed.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Were gonna have to agree to disagree. Like I mentioned before Romo is someone that needs a team built to support him. I don't think he can carry the team. Plus, he needs to be consistently coached. Its not accident that he sits and talks to Linehan all game long talking about strategies which he didn't do when Garrett was OC.

I to believe that Romo is closer to Aaron Rogers. But he still needs the support of the team. Aaron is great because they built an entire system to use Aaron's mobility. Romo on the other hand was forced into a system that didn't suite him. I still think that Garrett's playbook hindered Romo all this years coupled with a lack of Oline, running game and a defense.

Aaron Rogers may not have a great Oline like the Cowboys but the coaches built a system to take advantage of his mobility. They practice broken plays which utilizes Roger's mobility and scrambling. On the other hand Romo was given the playbook from the 90s which made him a dropback passer.

I think Romo is top #3 and has always been that way. He has a bad wrap as a choker for no reason - which baffles me since he is the highest rated passer in the 4th quarter and has lead more comebacks than any QB since 2010 except Payton. Romo has always been great and its not even fair that he's always been scrubbed for the probowl compared to other QBs he has outplayed. Its only now that he's beginning to shine brighter because he has an OC that gives him guidance and a team that doesn't always have to rely on him to win games.

I wouldn't say its for no reason. It might have to do with the prime time games in December that's helped give Romo the reputation of being a choker. Fair? Not at all. But its how it is. Only Romo can change that at this point.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I've seen Rivers get criticized as well. There's always been the top 4 QB's in this league. Its been Brees, Peyton, Rodgers and Brady. All Super Bowl champions and all are media darlings who everyone loves. Rivers got praise earlier this year for his play because at one point he was playing like the best QB in the league. That has changed.

Well that the difference. Rivers does get praise. Romo never does. When will his praise start coming?

 

[ConstantReboot]

I wouldn't say its for no reason. It might have to do with the prime time games in December that's helped give Romo the reputation of being a choker. Fair? Not at all. But its how it is. Only Romo can change that at this point.

Romo doesn't need to change that. Theres a reason why he has the highest QB rating in the 4th quarter and has more come from behind wins than any QB besides Payton. Those types of stats didn't appear just this year. They have been a consistent trademark throughout his career. Yet no one praises him for that and instead has given in the chocker label.

 

[burmafrd]

Those claiming Romo is NOT singled out are full of crap. Rivers had a great team earlier in his career - much better than Romo has EVER had. Yet he has NEVER gotten a tenth of the hate Romo has. And Rivers was a high First Round Pick.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Romo doesn't need to change that. Theres a reason why he has the highest QB rating in the 4th quarter and has more come from behind wins than any QB besides Payton. Those types of stats didn't appear just this year. They have been a consistent trademark throughout his career. Yet no one praises him for that and instead has given in the chocker label.

Yes he does need to change it. He can't come into this post seaosn with a stinker and everything will be okay. If he chokes in our 1st playoff game....are oyu goign to sit here and say "Well....he has the highest qb rating in the 4th quarter of the regular season...". No.

See this is what makes it tough lol. There's no medium on Romo. Either people are all the way on the left with Romo or all the way to the right. There's no common ground.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Well that the difference. Rivers does get praise. Romo never does. When will his praise start coming?

Just in the past two days i've heard people bring up Romo a potential MVP candidate. I've also heard Demarco as well but initially it was 100% all Demarco with the MVP talk. Its now being swayed to Romo.

 

[KJJ]

Romo 114.4
Rodgers 111.0

As much stock as you put into passer ratings this has to be a very proud moment for you. If this holds up and Romo finishes the season with the leagues highest passer rating I can only imagine all the celebrating you're going to do. You'll pop at least a couple of bottles of champagne as you gleam over his league high passer rating. At least for one year you won't have to find a situation during a game where Romo's passer rating is higher than everyone else's. I only kid Romo's performance yesterday impressed the hell out of me and he's been terrific this season. If he can win a SB all the Romo jokes will stop because other than a few big mistakes at the wrong time in critical games he's been one of the most consistent QB's we've seen the past decade. In his 8 full seasons as the starter he's never had a completion percentage lower than 61.3% or a passer rating lower than 90.5.

This season he's blowing away his previous career high passer rating of 102.5 in 2011 and his 70.3 completion percentage is a career high. It's pretty amazing for him to have a season like this after coming off back surgery and to suffer yet another back injury during the season. A lot of his success this season does have to go to the running game led by Murray that's kept him from having to attempt as many passes this season as in previous seasons. His attempts are way down this season which has helped keep his mistakes down he's only had 11 turnovers which is a career low after 14 games played.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Yes he does need to change it. He can't come into this post seaosn with a stinker and everything will be okay. If he chokes in our 1st playoff game....are oyu goign to sit here and say "Well....he has the highest qb rating in the 4th quarter of the regular season...". No.

See this is what makes it tough lol. There's no medium on Romo. Either people are all the way on the left with Romo or all the way to the right. There's no common ground.

How can he change what he is? I'm stating that Romo has always been Romo. Its the team around him thats better. You stated that his label as being a choker fits him because he chokes a lot. But I stated that Romo has the highest ratings in the 4th quarter among all QBs and 2nd to only Peyton in bringing his team from behind during the waning moments of the game.

Do you understand what those stat means? It means that Romo has always been an elite QB and that its either our defense or even our lack of a running game that has held this team back for several years, not Romo. Romo no longer needs to rely on carrying this team any more and because of that were winning. Football is a team sport. I don't know why people like you like to blame everything on Romo and yet failed to give him props when he deserves it? I think you drank too much of that koolaid from the mediots and BSPN. Romo has always been Romo. He doesn't deserve the chocker label thats been placed onto him at all and to say otherwise just proves the ignorance of some Cowboy fans how special of a QB he truly is.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Just in the past two days i've heard people bring up Romo a potential MVP candidate. I've also heard Demarco as well but initially it was 100% all Demarco with the MVP talk. Its now being swayed to Romo.

I love Demarco and what he has given this team. I also love Romo because I believe he is an elite QB. There is nothing wrong for Cowboy fans to think that both Romo and Demarco are potential MVP candidates.

Romo this past game has thrown for 4 TDs, and only two incompletions. Those stats were better than Rogers and just about any QB this week. Romo is also having an outstanding year. People like to bash incessantly as a choke artist in December. Now those same people need to start saying how great he's been. They can't have it both ways.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

How can he change what he is? I'm stating that Romo has always been Romo. Its the team around him thats better. You stated that his label as being a choker fits him because he chokes a lot. But I stated that Romo has the highest ratings in the 4th quarter among all QBs and 2nd to only Peyton in bringing his team from behind during the waning moments of the game.

Do you understand what those stat means? It means that Romo has always been an elite QB and that its either our defense or even our lack of a running game that has held this team back for several years, not Romo. Romo no longer needs to rely on carrying this team any more and because of that were winning. Football is a team sport. I don't know why people like you like to blame everything on Romo and yet failed to give him props when he deserves it? I think you drank too much of that koolaid from the mediots and BSPN. Romo has always been Romo. He doesn't deserve the chocker label thats been placed onto him at all and to say otherwise just proves the ignorance of some Cowboy fans how special of a QB he truly is.

No I didn't say that. I never said Romo was a choker. I said for those that feel he is there's no argument against it. I won't argue it. Do I understand what those stats in the regular season mean? They are meaningless. They don't translate into post season or post season success. You can't be elite without post season success. That's just where and how it is. You don't have to like it but that's just how it is. That goes for any sport. You can't live off of regular season success and then want to be talked about in the same vein as Roethlisberger, Manning, Rodgers, Brees or Brady.

There's no Kool-Aid drinking here. I don't even watch BSPN so I don't know how you can assume that's where my opinions derive from. My opinion of Romo is that he's a great qb and talent. But he lacks the post season success to be talked in the same breathe as some other elite QB's. It will change this year IMO.

And its funny. Earlier this season everyone had this team winning 6 games or less and playing for last place. Now Romo has all this great talent around him lol. Like he had no talent in 2009 or 2007 lol. Fact is, his talent around him is better and he's ALSO better.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I love Demarco and what he has given this team. I also love Romo because I believe he is an elite QB. There is nothing wrong for Cowboy fans to think that both Romo and Demarco are potential MVP candidates.

Romo this past game has thrown for 4 TDs, and only two incompletions. Those stats were better than Rogers and just about any QB this week. Romo is also having an outstanding year. People like to bash incessantly as a choke artist in December. Now those same people need to start saying how great he's been. They can't have it both ways.

What do you want them to say lol? How higher can the praise go? Just today Peter King had Romo had a MVP candidate lol.

That being said, if you were a Romo basher prior to this season than nothing has changed. He's done nothing new in regards to accomplishments. He's always had great regular seasons. Its time to translate that into the post season. Once he does that i'm sure he'll get the praise Cowboy fans beg for him to get.

 

[Ring Leader]

As much stock as you put into passer ratings this has to be a very proud moment for you. If this holds up and Romo finishes the season with the leagues highest passer rating I can only imagine all the celebrating you're going to do. You'll pop at least a couple of bottles of champagne as you gleam over his league high passer rating. At least for one year you won't have to find a situation during a game where Romo's passer rating is higher than everyone else's. I only kid Romo's performance yesterday impressed the hell out of me and he's been terrific this season. If he can win a SB all the Romo jokes will stop because other than a few big mistakes at the wrong time in critical games he's been one of the most consistent QB's we've seen the past decade. In his 8 full seasons as the starter he's never had a completion percentage lower than 61.3% or a passer rating lower than 90.5.

This season he's blowing away his previous career high passer rating of 102.5 in 2011 and his 70.3 completion percentage is a career high. It's pretty amazing for him to have a season like this after coming off back surgery and to suffer yet another back injury during the season. A lot of his success this season does have to go to the running game led by Murray that's kept him from having to attempt as many passes this season as in previous seasons. His attempts are way down this season which has helped keep his mistakes down he's only had 11 turnovers which is a career low after 14 games played.

Let's summarize; Romo hasn't had to carry the team this year.

 

[ringmaster]

What do you want them to say lol? How higher can the praise go? Just today Peter King had Romo had a MVP candidate lol.

That being said, if you were a Romo basher prior to this season than nothing has changed. He's done nothing new in regards to accomplishments. He's always had great regular seasons. Its time to translate that into the post season. Once he does that i'm sure he'll get the praise Cowboy fans beg for him to get.

I see your point and imo I could care less who praises him and who doesn't and Romo has had his best season as a Dalllas QB by far and yes he will have to take his game up a notch in the playoffs no question about that.

 

[KJJ]

Let's summarize; Romo hasn't had to carry the team this year.

Which is why he's having his best season and hasn't had as many turnovers.