No hate on Dak, but what does he do better than Rush?

[sbark]

Everything. Score more points for one. With dak we have the #1 scoring offense in the nfl. With rush we have one of the worst.

Give Cooper Amari
Give Him a bottom of NFL NFc east...and a overall weak sched.

Give him a few weeks of playing...just being able to work on trade.
Not top....but mid pack

 

[Texas_Pete]

Big Time Rush out there killin it

 

[aikemirv]

Coop is much more calm. He is also much better at reading a defense. Dak has a little more zing on his throw but Coop throws a pretty deep ball. Dak is better but it's much closer then most realize. What am i saying I have no idea what Dak actually does better.

Dak has a little more zing but Cooper throws on time - Win overall for Cooper

 

[stinkface]

Commercial's and stronger arm and yep, that's the right order.

 

[starfan1]

Well with that mindset then discount Dak's 9-2 career record against the NYG and that adjusts his career win/loss record to 44-31. Furthermore, if we go down that road then take out his 25-6 career record against the NFC East and Dak's career record then changes to 28-27.

Not sure the point of denouncing the Rush victories over CINN and NYG when Dak has beaten so-called weak opponents as well.

fair point no need to denounce rushs victories or daks.Im just going by all the experts in here that have said NFC east dont matter

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Coop is much more calm. He is also much better at reading a defense. Dak has a little more zing on his throw but Coop throws a pretty deep ball. Dak is better but it's much closer then most realize. What am i saying I have no idea what Dak actually does better.

Dak is way better at negotiating his paycheck.

 

[Slick]

Dak is 54 - 36 as a starter. Go see where that ranks for quarterbacks that have played the same time he's played.

Dak won his first playoff game in his first 2 years. Brees won his first playoff game afrer what, 5 or 6 years?? P. Manning won his first playoff game in his 5th or 6th season. There are many other quarterbacks who didn't win their first playoff games in 2 years like Dak did. Hell Matt Stafford didn't win his first playoff game until his 11th year I believe.... did you call those quarterbacks backups too??? No... you didn't....

Do that mean Dak is better than those other quarterbacks?? No. But that certainly means that one playoff win early in a quarterback's career doesn't define him.

Its STILL a team game, so please put the goal post where it was and stop moving it. Thanks in advance!!!

With that said, I've made myself more than clear as to my support for Rush. But to call Dak a backup quarterback is just dumb. There are former and current players, coaches GMs, and scouts who've said Dak is a top 10 quarterback in this league and his numbers back that up.

You don't know more about football talent at the NFL than players, coaches, scouts and GMs so that conversation is dead right there.

Let's just sit back and enjoy the fact that we have a backup quarterback who's showing he's capable of producing under the lights. I support him, Dak, Grier and the quarterbacks on the practice squad because they all wear the star. That hatin and bashing on your own players is for weak *** cowards.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Commercials

 

[ClappingCarrot]

Must've heard 2 or 3 Dak commercials on the radio during the pre-game broadcast and watched an additional one or two on TV.

I'd say endorsements, at this very exact point in time.

 

[NeverBeGameOver]

Love the way Cooper's been playing, but how quickly we forget... Dak was arguably the best QB in the league for the first few games before getting hurt last year. He's capable of playing on a higher level than what we've seen from Cooper, who's simply doing his job as a really good, competent backup.

I will say though -- if we could beat the Iggles, Rams, or Packers with Cooper at QB, then we'll talk. Bengals are struggling and the Daniel Jones Giants have always been losers.

 

[khiladi]

Let’s be real here:

Dak lucked out with a load franchise, but because of his marketability, was declared something he never was. He was always seen as over-rated and there were questions about whether he was the right man for the job.

Teams were never threatened by him, they just respected the OL and RG so much, they made it easier for this average QB to read the field consistently. As I always said, you can tell by how opponents planned for him. Dak was seeing single safety high and man coverage and that was a testimony more to the RG and OL. No defense would defend a guy like Herbert in his first year, let alone year 6.

Dak still throws balls late, default to checkdowns, fall into horrible mechanics, has awful pocket presence, needs his OC to scheme WR getting open on early reads for him. Dak has NEVER been able to put even his “best QB traits together consistently” . Yeah, he may have a game here and there, where everything is going right, but that’s every QB in the league with a loaded roster that has an offense tailored to his skill set for 7 years running, with all sorts of weapons at his disposal. The things he always did well, he’s improved but how glaring weaknesses are still evident to anybody that watched. He can’t overcome them as he’s peaked. The TB game was arguably his best game ever as a Cowboy and that was one where TB just played aggressive man and didn’t shadow any help to Amari Cooper, with the CB playing off, and him and Dak just played pitch and catch all day, while Zeke was stone-walling the extra rushers.

This isn’t a QB like Rodgers. Mahomes, Herbert, Josh Allen or any of the others that have all the tools, it’s just a matter of it all coming together for them at the right moment to consistently make runs for SBs. Every year for Dak you’ll see extended stretches of horrible play, with him being the weak link.

None of this is new, it’s on his draft scouting report.

 

[khiladi]

Love the way Cooper's been playing, but how quickly we forget... Dak was arguably the best QB in the league for the first few games before getting hurt last year. He's capable of playing on a higher level than what we've seen from Cooper, who's simply doing his job as a really good, competent backup.

I will say though -- if we could beat the Iggles, Rams, or Packers with Cooper at QB, then we'll talk. Bengals are struggling and the Daniel Jones Giants have always been losers.

Cut the hurt excuses.. Dak was running fine and his drop in performance was the same typical drop in performances that he always has. Teams just stopped blitzing and ran more zone and made Dak process the field. There is 7 years of tape on Dak and it’s the same thing year in and year out.

Tua right now is “the greatest QB in the NFL” right now in 3 games.

 

[Slick]

Call me what you want, but he isn't a franchise QB1. He makes poor decisions, and hasn't improved over time. Those guys listed above were in rebuild years until they had a solid team. Last year Dak had one.

Stats against the East are weak. Cooper is pretty much exposing Dak for what he really is, an average QB at best. He would not have those numbers if he were in the AFC. He's run them up against weak teams, but not against winning teams. That's what really matters, post season.

Straight from Fan Dual below, which pretty much defines Dak,

"Last season, the Cowboys went 8-8 while Prescott threw 30 touchdowns to 11 interceptions.

However, 22 of those TDs, and just 3 of those INTs, came against teams that missed the postseason. Prescott led the team to a 7-2 record in such contests. However, when facing teams that made the playoffs, the Cowboys went a miserable 1-6, and Prescott tossed 8 scores and 8 picks."

Sorry, but that is the facts, and sums him up perfectly. He's only viewed as top ten, because the NFL is lacking in quality QBs. The FO has a long history of over paying the wrong guys. They screwed the pooch on this one.

Go back and look at what I stated over time. Spend the money on a defense, that win super bowls, even with average QBs sometimes. No great QB won with a mediocre defense. Jerry loves his offense, but last night, that defense won that game.

Cooper isn't fancy, but playing solid football and making good decisions, and also doesn't throw behind his receivers, or into, double and triple coverage. Dak thinks he's better than he really his, where Cooper plays to his ability and strengths.

 

[NeverBeGameOver]

Cut the hurt excuses.. Dak was running fine and his drop in performance was the same typical drop in performances that he always has. Teams just stopped blitzing and ran more zone and made Dak process the field. There is 7 years of tape on Dak and it’s the same thing year in and year out.

Tua right now is “the greatest QB in the NFL” right now in 3 games.

So you're saying we should consider benching Dak right now for Cooper?

Slow down... We don't know if we can beat good teams with Rush. We do know this is a playoff team when Dak is playing well.

 

[Slick]

He makes all the throws
Dak does not.
just like Dak took Romo's job
Rush will do the same

I wish, but line Romo, Jerry will always let him start with no threat of losing his job.

 

[khiladi]

And Dak has been a physical runner, where he was difficult to bring down, even when defenders got a hold on him. He’s never been some type of guy who fakes defenders out. That doesn’t make you a consistent run threat or does it set you up for a long career in the NFL, as even big RBs wear down quickly.

Again, 2016 happened in large part because of Cole Beasley. Defenses simply sat on the out routes and bracketed him in coverage in 2017, and Dak couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn. That’s how slow he is to adjusting to seeing the field. You can’t reproduce 2016, because that offense that no longer has the top flight RG and OL was FIGURED out.

They tried to scapegoat Dez for Dak forcing the ball, as Beasley’s production dropped from close to 80 catches down to less than 40. The reality is Dak doesn’t know where to go when he had to process the field consistently. Which is why man was throwing into double and triple coverage regularly against the Bucs. What prevents him from even looking worse is his conservative nature, as he often just defaults to the checkdown right away if his early reads aren’t open.

Dak has been BABYSAT him his whole time here.

 

[khiladi]

So you're saying we should consider benching Dak right now for Cooper?

Slow down... We don't know if we can beat good teams with Rush. We do know this is a playoff team when Dak is playing well.

We already know we can’t beat good teams with Dak and it’s arguably the worst contract decision in Cowboys history.

 

[Patrick]

Brings more attention to the Cowboys, and that's what Jerry wants.

 

[Acheman08]

I like what Rush is doing so far, hopefully he can keep it up. The one play I was impressed with, as sad as it is, was them getting the ball snapped quickly after that one play that could have been reviewed. Rush got it off so fast the Giants/refs didnt have time to look at it. Thats a thing Dak couldnt do, for some reason. I would be yelling at the screen to get the snap off with Dak after a play that could be contested and he would take forever.

 

[Slick]

So you're saying we should consider benching Dak right now for Cooper?

Slow down... We don't know if we can beat good teams with Rush. We do know this is a playoff team when Dak is playing well.

Getting to the playoffs and winning is 2 different things.

I'd try Rush, and see what he can do, if not look elsewhere. Trade Dak. We all know what Dak can do.

Pollard also needs to play more , and Zeke needs to go. Dump all that over paid money, and use it wisely for a change.

One or 2 more defensive stars away from looking really good.