No moral victories but team is close!

darthseinfeld said:
I hope Revel lives up to the hype. Takes some pressure off the CB position with your top 2. I think Diggs is done amd gone after the season.

Im really hoping our edge guys are on the roster. However even at their ceiling, I dont know that either Kneeland or Ezeiruaku are alpha's. Probably more like Montez Sweat caliber guys.

Good year to need a LB. There are real studs in the top 30. Strong LB

I think Downs could be in play if he falls to our pick due to positional value. Hard to imagine him not being BPA
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I think you need to give them time you do realize our entire secondary is playing out of position wrong defense none of it fits they are not cover 3 They're forcing these players to play to their weaknesses not their strengths..

Same with what your eyes are seeing when you have a passive defensive coordinator whose defense only wants to use four down lineman and not blitz a lot if they do blitz it's a delayed zone blitz They're not giving these opportunities to these players the same way Dan Quinn would have he made sure that he got everything out of these guys by creating a little bit of a hybrid and adjusted version of his own defense..

That is why so many different defensive lineman were getting sacks and pressures when Dan Quinn was here I mean so many guys like golston and armstrong.. And even Sam Williams rotating in As a role player was actually better than he is right now.

I mean people are gonna come to this conclusion we all know it it's the defense they're not being utilized properly So what your eyes might be seeing it's just a byproduct of a coordinator who just refuses to make the necessary changes to make what was here when he got here work better jerry gave him a roster to play with but he refuses to change his defense to match that roster and there's not enough in one season to change it..

Might need two to three offseasons to get the proper players but at some point you need to use these players to their strengths and that's not happening....

Look I don't want to blame everything on that but I'm going to blame most of it on him he knew coming in here what he had he knew it be impossible to get that many new change over players for his defense and yet here we are going into Week 5 and he's not making much changes his blitz rates actually less than it's been in the history of his defenses when they go back and look at the blitz rate..

You use twists and stunts and blitzes You're making the offensive line have to work really hard to figure out where all the pressures coming from and that's where you create turnovers and sacks and it may leave holes in there yes Dan Quinn defenses you can run on them but the things you're talking about where Trayvon Diggs looked his best Doron Bland looked his best the pass rush Even last year with Zimmer's defense when they got players back his pass rushing turnovers were much better than we're seeing right now with a very similar roster..

Who do you blame It has to be Matt this is his defense and he refuses to make enough changes real changes impactful changes and I don't understand how Jerry and Brian are in his ear threatening his job..
 
Offense looks good in september but defense wins games in December and beyond....this team might beat the jets and Panthers but they are going to struggle to get 3 more wins beyond that for the rest of the season given the leagues worst defense.

We have 1 win against a bad team and it was barely a win in OT, we have a tie and 2 losses....there's nothing close about this team
 
Cowboyny said:
We all understand how poorly the defense has played this season, but they gave two nfc elite teams everything they can handle and should have won both games. This team has to learn what it takes to win a 60 minute game, where the margin between teams in this league is so close.

Team cannot lay an egg against a bad Bear team not need a 65 yard fg to beat another. Defense has to improve to give them a chance. Even if average, this could make this team successful.

Many are saying this is a rebuilding season, I don’t see it that way, nor has the team approached the season that way.
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Close to mediocrity is not close
 
Rockport said:
Those who are wishing for a rebuilding season are those who give up easily.

Quick note: The Green Bay Packers are on ESPN’s fraud alert team after the Cowboys game.
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You lost me at what ESPN thinks....they have more flip flops than the beautiful States of Florida and Cali. For the life of me, I do not understand why you keep harping at those of us who want a rebuild and are giving up. Do you honestly think this team can win anything significant this year? Do you not think that a rebuild will do the team well 2 years down the road? Do you not agree that teams that are winning right now have built while rebuilding weak links?
 
DStar22 said:
if this is a 7 and 9 team, then it may as well be a rebuilding year.
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No it's not You don't make a trade and bring a guy like George Pickens you don't retain a bunch of your players and give them new big contracts If it's a rebuilding year it's a retooling year and yes there's some growing pains with a whole new offensive and defensive coaching staff the problem here is the defense The scheme doesn't match the players so that's a byproduct is it looks like they're rebuilding they're not rebuilding why would they go bring a guy in like clowney if they were rebuilding why even bother??

You don't understand this for one Jerry's never tanked even at the end of 2020 with Mike Mccarthy they refused to lose games to get a better draft spot they actually won quite a few games right at the end of the year jerry will never rebuild they were never tanked this is always about retooling and their intentions were to win games just because the byproduct doesn't look like that doesn't mean you're right it's not rebuilding it never was a rebuild...

Don't rebuild with your $60 million quarterback and your $40 million receiver and then you pay your lineman top dollar you resign your full back and your tight end How is that look anything like a rebuild teams you rebuild start over with a new quarterback They get rid of their best players in trades and no Parsons that was an accident that was not a plan That happened because they couldn't get something worked out and that actually is one of the reasons the defense isn't as good as it was supposed to be because a week before the season start you lose your best defensive player.


I agree with the trade it was necessary but that wasn't the plan you lost your best piece on defense and now they're struggling to try to cover it up,

but nothing that they've done in the offseason or so far in season even points to a soft rebuild, it's not a rebuild, look at all the players, they brought in, look at the salary cap, the core players, the veterans, the window is small ,this is not a rebuild....
 
Lol close to what? This is a horrible defense, currently ranked 32. Even if they somehow improve, they are not improving enough to be respected by any serious team
 
Cowboyny said:
-I agree, Diggs won't be back next season.
-Revel's play will determine if they need to go get another high-end corner.
-Linebackers/Safeties are usually late 1st/early 2nd rd picks, where the GB pick should land
-Downs is the perfect fit for this scheme, but I am hearing top 5 early in the process. Maybe he could slide to the Cowboy pick due to positional value. Think he is similar to Branch.
-Agree, think Ez will be more of a #2 type edge, team needs an alpha. I would really consider Hendrickson in fa. Yes, will be expensive, but much cheaper then Parsons. He would allow the team to address other needs in the draft.
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With Revel, even he doesnt play well I can still see them rolling with him as a #2 and banking on a year two jump

Dont sleep in Styles or Reese at out first pick if Eberflus is around. LB is a priority position in his scheme. Either or both could go in the top 20. Hill or Allen would he great picks with our second 1st rounder though
 
Cowboyny said:
We all understand how poorly the defense has played this season, but they gave two nfc elite teams everything they can handle and should have won both games. This team has to learn what it takes to win a 60 minute game, where the margin between teams in this league is so close.

Team cannot lay an egg against a bad Bear team not need a 65 yard fg to beat another. Defense has to improve to give them a chance. Even if average, this could make this team successful.

Many are saying this is a rebuilding season, I don’t see it that way, nor has the team approached the season that way.
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This team is typical of a bad team so far.

Game 1, surprised a lot of people including me scoring 20 points in the first half to keep the game close. The defense gave up 21 points and 3 Eagles drives. The second half the Cowboys scored 0 points and the Eagles scored only 3 but it was enough for the Eagles to win the game. Moral victory? They lost and it looked like the Eagles were on cruise control from the onset of the game. The Eagles threw 1 deep pass if I am not mistake and it was completed.

Game 2. The Giants figured out the Cowboys pass defense is terrible and threw what seemed like 100 deep passes for long completions. The Giants with Russell Wilson at QB. The Cowboys offense put a lot of points on the board but were often aided by big Giants penalties, not all of which were deserved IMO.

Games 3 - They lost to the Bears while making Caleb Williams offensive player of the week. The Cowboys offense struggled despite the Bears missing 2 starting CBs.

Game 4 - No defense but a spectacular performance by Dak to score 40 points and tie the game.

Bad teams are inconsistent, and that appears to be Dallas.
 
Redsfan_83 said:
You lost me at what ESPN thinks....they have more flip flops than the beautiful States of Florida and Cali. For the life of me, I do not understand why you keep harping at those of us who want a rebuild and are giving up. Do you honestly think this team can win anything significant this year? Do you not think that a rebuild will do the team well 2 years down the road? Do you not agree that teams that are winning right now have built while rebuilding weak links?
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I was just stating a fact. You and others have given up on the season. The season is less the 25% over so you give up easily. I’ve seen teams come back from worse records. It happens all the time. So again, I’m just stating facts. You don’t like it which tells me sub-consciously you know I’m right.
 
Creeper said:
This team is typical of a bad team so far.

Game 1, surprised a lot of people including me scoring 20 points in the first half to keep the game close. The defense gave up 21 points and 3 Eagles drives. The second half the Cowboys scored 0 points and the Eagles scored only 3 but it was enough for the Eagles to win the game. Moral victory? They lost and it looked like the Eagles were on cruise control from the onset of the game. The Eagles threw 1 deep pass if I am not mistake and it was completed.

Game 2. The Giants figured out the Cowboys pass defense is terrible and threw what seemed like 100 deep passes for long completions. The Giants with Russell Wilson at QB. The Cowboys offense put a lot of points on the board but were often aided by big Giants penalties, not all of which were deserved IMO.

Games 3 - They lost to the Bears while making Caleb Williams offensive player of the week. The Cowboys offense struggled despite the Bears missing 2 starting CBs.

Game 4 - No defense but a spectacular performance by Dak to score 40 points and tie the game.

Bad teams are inconsistent, and that appears to be Dallas.
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Cowboys have to learn how to play a 60 minute game and how to finish. Outside of that bad loss to the Bears, where the whole team laid an egg, they have been competitive. Good teams don't make the big mistake and take advantage of them. This is where the Cowboys have to figure out the most. Don't beat yourselves. Until that gets corrected, they will have inconsistent results.
 
DStar22 said:
if this is a 7 and 9 team, then it may as well be a rebuilding year.
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I don't mean to be redundant but this never was a rebuild year they lost the rebuild opportunity last year in the offseason when they decided late to do nothing and not make a decision on Prescott and Lamb until right before the season started what's that chip fell once you sign Lamb to a huge contract you had to sign Prescott once you gave your QB1 $60 million went way over market the rebuild talk stopped it ceased that is why they done a very busy unusually busy offseason...

I know it feels like there's some intent like they're trying to get better and they're rebuilding it's not if you look at all the signs it looks nothing like a rebuild nobody pays their receiver and quarterback that much money and then they add to it they pay hunter Tyler Smith and Ferguson they bring in Clowney trying to cover up the loss of Parsons...

They resigned OSA and Bland, you don't do any of this If you were rebuilding you trade your best assets do you not understand where the rebuild is?

To get maximum value for your assets by trading them and then you start over one you need to find QB1

So for a few years you're going to be futile and you're going to be trying to rebuild through youth and through the draft but you trade just about every asset you have if you're in a rebuild you do not sign your quarterback who might only have 2 to three years of prime football left in him to that much money if you intended to rebuild...
 
Cowboyny said:
Then the Packers are the same.
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And so are the Giants since they beat the Chargers. Any team can upset any team on a given day. It doesn't mean they are close to anything. We barely beat a Russell Wilson led Giants team. He was benched 2 week later. We Got blown out by a mediocre Bears team. This team will end up with 7 to 8 wins probably. Might upset someone and lose to a team they shouldn't.
 
This team goes 5-3-1 before the bye, I would consider this team making a run.

As of now this team has more holes than an adult bookstore. Safety and lb have been dire. CB play has been pedestrian. No burst guy in the running game.

Other than Hurts, every qb this team has faced has looked like Mahomes.

The one silver lining so far is that the interior is no longer the weakness in defense.
 
This defense would probably have trouble stopping a Division I Football offense. No way this team is "close". lol
 
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