No moral victories but team is close!

[Rockport]

No we are realistic. Not a homer like you

No, you’ve given up super easily.

 

[Rockport]

I honestly don't know how to get through to you; it's almost at the point of not even trying to. Do you know the difference between giving up on the season and not thinking we have a chance to win with the roster on hand? The problem with your line of thinking is that it's exactly 100% of how Jerry and Jr have run this team for 30 years. We are good enough to make it with a playoff game, but not good enough to win all the games. The only way this team could have a "chance" is to go on a spending spree and trade the next 5 years of picks for a shot in the dark. We have started to build a promising group of young core players, and the next 2 years will have the opportunity to fill in MAJOR holes needed for success. We have players coming off of injury at "some" point this season, and they will likely have little impact.

Imagine Revis, Overshown, the 3 Tylers, Blue, Maffa and others developing over the next 1-2 years in conjunction with having early picks? This is the formula of success in the NFL, and this team is nooooooooowhere near where we all want them to be. I just don't get it man....

You’re not going to get through to me. I’ve walked the talk and know about people who give up easily. You’ve done that. The season’s not close to being over. Many things can happen. Look at all the season ending injuries throughout the league. Maybe you’re a teenager and haven’t been around long enough to see that many other NFL teams, or any sport for that matter, don’t give up and come back to win it all.

 

[Redsfan_83]

You’re not going to get through to me. I’ve walked the talk and know about people who give up easily. You’ve done that. The season’s not close to being over. Many things can happen. Look at all the season ending injuries throughout the league. Maybe you’re a teenager and haven’t been around long enough to see that many other NFL teams, or any sport for that matter, don’t give up and come back to win it all.

Maybe I'm a teenager? We had this talk a couple of months ago about how long I have been a Cowboys and Reds fan for, etc... Clearly, you have short-term memory or something. I can almost assure you that I have been a Cowboys fan longer than you, and also longer in the tooth.

You can use your "hater" and "give up" catch phrases all you want, but the back and forth with you is tiresome for my "teenager" eyes........Have a great day!

 

[goshann]

We're close, as in being third in the NFC East. Wake me up when this team has enough wins to actually have a chance to even get into the playoffs...

We will beat the Commanders in Dallas. If we can improve the defense 30%, we are on par with them.

 

[DStar22]

7 to 9 wins. Not 7-9. I can see them challenging for the 7th seed, but I think that is their ceiling this year

Sorry , but any year you are not challenging for a SB is a building or rebuilding year, in my book.

"No team with the absolute last-ranked defense has won a Super Bowl, as a high-performing defense is strongly correlated with championship success, with most recent winners having a top-10 defense in points allowed. While defenses can vary in rank and still win a championship, a historically bad defense has never won the Super Bowl. "

 

[Rockport]

Maybe I'm a teenager? We had this talk a couple of months ago about how long I have been a Cowboys and Reds fan for, etc... Clearly, you have short-term memory or something. I can almost assure you that I have been a Cowboys fan longer than you, and also longer in the tooth.

You can use your "hater" and "give up" catch phrases all you want, but the back and forth with you is tiresome for my "teenager" eyes........Have a great day!

I don’t think I’ve ever called YOU a hater. Only that you give up easily. Maybe you’re right about the team or maybe you’re wrong. I hope like hell you’re wrong.

 

[Scottishcowboy]

We all understand how poorly the defense has played this season, but they gave two nfc elite teams everything they can handle and should have won both games. This team has to learn what it takes to win a 60 minute game, where the margin between teams in this league is so close.

Team cannot lay an egg against a bad Bear team not need a 65 yard fg to beat another. Defense has to improve to give them a chance. Even if average, this could make this team successful.

Many are saying this is a rebuilding season, I don’t see it that way, nor has the team approached the season that way.

You can stick lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig.

This IS a rebuilding year.

 

[Rockport]

You can stick lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig.

This IS a rebuilding year.

In your mind but not the owner, coaches and players. They don’t give up as easily.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Maybe I'm a teenager? We had this talk a couple of months ago about how long I have been a Cowboys and Reds fan for, etc... Clearly, you have short-term memory or something. I can almost assure you that I have been a Cowboys fan longer than you, and also longer in the tooth.

You can use your "hater" and "give up" catch phrases all you want, but the back and forth with you is tiresome for my "teenager" eyes........Have a great day!

He’s the most well known quitter on the site.

Pay him no mind.

 

[Mr_437]

This team lives on the arm of Dak Prescott and the hands of his WRs/TEs. Knowing this I cannot agree to them being close to anything except another loss. Cowboys Defense is last in the league, and the DC doesn't want to change anything lol. Fix the defense then you have a team that's close.

 

[Mr_437]

I think the secondary is salvageable. If they do move forward with Eberflus next season, they need to target high IQ, zone adverse players.

I hear ya, but they draft a man cover CB in the 3rd round this draft. What's going on?

 

[Scottishcowboy]

In your mind but not the owner, coaches and players. They don’t give up as easily.

I'm aware of that and I'm all for 100% effort but this is a rebuilding year and we need a top 10 or better pick, not 19 or 24.

 

[Redsfan_83]

I hear ya, but they draft a man cover CB in the 3rd round this draft. What's going on?

Eber was signed in January...the draft was well, after he signed. Is the DC/GM/OWNER/HC, CHEERLEADER CO-ORDINATOR relationship kind of like the players in the off-season in that you aren't allowed to talk to them? Before the draft, was it discussed that Revel does not fit into the scheme? Two things can happen, and you know the DC won't change his ways, so.....

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

We will beat the Commanders in Dallas. If we can improve the defense 30%, we are on par with them.

We just barely beat the Gnats in Dallas. All the preseason of marking L's and W's on the calendar is out the window. No guaranteed wins or loses this season.

 

[blueblood70]

I'm aware of that and I'm all for 100% effort but this is a rebuilding year and we need a top 10 or better pick, not 19 or 24.

It's coming from a fan The word rebuild that's it that's a fan thing like Tank they're not rebuilding you're saying they're in a rebuilding year and they're not they didn't do all this stuff in the offseason and last year signing Lamb in Prescott to rebuild that's not what any of these actions point to.

That's how you're viewing it that's how the circumstances you're living in the moment that you think it's a rebuild year and you're hoping for a top 10 pick and it's not over till it's over and too bad if we win nine or 10 games and it's not to your suiting and we're down around 12 to 15 again because that's more than likely where we're going to be once again...

We have enough draft capital and we'll get even more not only from the Parsons deal but whatever happens with George Pickens he's either going to want to leave to be a number one wide receiver and make number one money or stay and be the number two and then Jerry has to decide how much He's willing to pay.

But if Jerry wants all he has to do is franchise tag him but make sure that George and his agent knows they're not going to make him stay they just want to get more draft capital in the trade so they're guaranteeing they get more and they have more control of the trade...

Worse even if he walked away we'd get probably a 3rd round comp pick so and then we would probably pick a younger cheaper wide receiver high in the draft..

And all this nonsense about a rebuild this is not a rebuild it's not even a soft rebuild or a full rebuild there's no rebuilding happening in Jerryd mind..

They've been the most active we've seen in about three years and they continually gonna add people they just added Clowny they're not doing that to rebuild the person hold out and showdown with Jerry Jones was an accident nobody knew he was leaving they both thought he was gonna stay we all thought we were he was gonna stay but the last 72 hours Jerry didn't wanna hear about the antics anymore and he had enough he did something he normally wouldn't do is trade away one of his best players in his prime...

That's just bad timing wasn't great for the team and now they're trying to adjust now before next year and try to salvage this defense while they can but I don't think he would have made it that much better But the point is nothing they've done over the last two off seasons say they're in a rebuild look at all the signings they've made that's not a rebuild The only time a team rebuilds is when he has the young quarterback or no quarterback right now we have a veteran quarterback making $60 million playing very well they are not in rebuild mode you can say it all you want out loud that's like the word tank this team has never tanked on purpose there is no such thing as tanking that is a fan derived word they do this in their head because they like draft picks and fantasy football that's not what's going on here....


You can keep arguing about it but the truth is only you in a certain level of fans are saying it's a rebuild but in no way shape or form is in a rebuild from the important people and that would be the ownership and the coaching staff they are not in a rebuild in their minds are so far from it they're trying to salvage this season and no matter what happens they will try to win as many games as possible and that means if they want to win 4 in a row at the end ruin your high draft pick they will do it they did it in 2020 and they will still do it because they will never take and never be in a full rebuild while Prescott or Romo still had tread left on their tire it's not happening.....

That ship sailed as soon as they signed Lamb and then soon follow signed Prescott and now everything they've done in this offseason and still going on right now says there's no way shape or form isn't even close to the word rebuild...

Teams like this with this much veteran and middling veteran core players they call it retooling they just going to try to retool the problem is the defensive coordinator doesn't have much parts for him to build his type of defense so that was a bad hire I don't know who hired him or why if they knew he was going to be too stubborn to run some kind of hybrid or do something different than his normal defense And I don't if that was a miscommunication or Matt's just giving Jerry the finger..

They are retooling they are trying to add to this core and trying to win not rebuild, retool.. It might in fact take another offseason to get this defense right but right now we're in the middle of a season that's barely begun barely 1 quarter in and they are not giving up and waving the white flag to get better draft picks..

 

[LysleE]

This team is not a playoff team. The defense is going to be the determining factor in the team’s success this season. While I believe Micah wasn’t worth the money GB paid him, he was an integral part of the Dallas defense and required teams to account for him when in the game. I think we can all agree that the complexion of this defense totally changed without his presence.

Dallas lost their opener against a flat Eagles team without their best defender; and Jalen Carter is not a one-trick pony like Paraons…so his absence was a big deal;

Against the Giants Dallas needed a 60+ yard FG to tie the game and let Russell Wilson throttle the pass defense for almost 500 yards;

Cowboys then played Chicago and only scored one touchdown against their injury-depleted defense, and then add insult to injury the Bears riddled Dallas’ secondary again.

Lastly, Dallas played to a tie with Green Bay with Micah Parsons making a game-saving play.

The defense has shown time and time again that they cannot hold leads; the pass rush is anemic; the LBs are slow and the secondary features two CBs coming back from injury, who clearly aren’t up to speed.

It is not realistic to assume Dallas can crank out t300 plus yards and 40 points a game to cover for a defense that is broken and ineffective. What happens when the offense comes out flat, or Dak has a bad day? What happens when Dallas plays better offenses like Detroit, Chargers, Commanders and Broncos?

I’m not even confident Dallas can beat the Jets given they lost to the Bears. This team often plays down to their competition, so no easy games for the Cowboys.

 

[starfan1]

I think its early yet to know exactly who's what in the NFL. I think you can say with reasonable certainty that the eagles,Lions and bills are the class of the league. the panthers and titans are the have nots but I think there's a whole lots of projection beyond that. The Bears may or may not suck this year as many other teams that fall in that category and that includes us.

 

[amame25]

We all understand how poorly the defense has played this season, but they gave two nfc elite teams everything they can handle and should have won both games. This team has to learn what it takes to win a 60 minute game, where the margin between teams in this league is so close.

Team cannot lay an egg against a bad Bear team not need a 65 yard fg to beat another. Defense has to improve to give them a chance. Even if average, this could make this team successful.

Many are saying this is a rebuilding season, I don’t see it that way, nor has the team approached the season that way.

you better duck, you're not allowed to have even semi positive thoughts around here.

 

[Scottishcowboy]

It's coming from a fan The word rebuild that's it that's a fan thing like Tank they're not rebuilding you're saying they're in a rebuilding year and they're not they didn't do all this stuff in the offseason and last year signing Lamb in Prescott to rebuild that's not what any of these actions point to.

That's how you're viewing it that's how the circumstances you're living in the moment that you think it's a rebuild year and you're hoping for a top 10 pick and it's not over till it's over and too bad if we win nine or 10 games and it's not to your suiting and we're down around 12 to 15 again because that's more than likely where we're going to be once again...

We have enough draft capital and we'll get even more not only from the Parsons deal but whatever happens with George Pickens he's either going to want to leave to be a number one wide receiver and make number one money or stay and be the number two and then Jerry has to decide how much He's willing to pay.

But if Jerry wants all he has to do is franchise tag him but make sure that George and his agent knows they're not going to make him stay they just want to get more draft capital in the trade so they're guaranteeing they get more and they have more control of the trade...

Worse even if he walked away we'd get probably a 3rd round comp pick so and then we would probably pick a younger cheaper wide receiver high in the draft..

And all this nonsense about a rebuild this is not a rebuild it's not even a soft rebuild or a full rebuild there's no rebuilding happening in Jerryd mind..

They've been the most active we've seen in about three years and they continually gonna add people they just added Clowny they're not doing that to rebuild the person hold out and showdown with Jerry Jones was an accident nobody knew he was leaving they both thought he was gonna stay we all thought we were he was gonna stay but the last 72 hours Jerry didn't wanna hear about the antics anymore and he had enough he did something he normally wouldn't do is trade away one of his best players in his prime...

That's just bad timing wasn't great for the team and now they're trying to adjust now before next year and try to salvage this defense while they can but I don't think he would have made it that much better But the point is nothing they've done over the last two off seasons say they're in a rebuild look at all the signings they've made that's not a rebuild The only time a team rebuilds is when he has the young quarterback or no quarterback right now we have a veteran quarterback making $60 million playing very well they are not in rebuild mode you can say it all you want out loud that's like the word tank this team has never tanked on purpose there is no such thing as tanking that is a fan derived word they do this in their head because they like draft picks and fantasy football that's not what's going on here....


You can keep arguing about it but the truth is only you in a certain level of fans are saying it's a rebuild but in no way shape or form is in a rebuild from the important people and that would be the ownership and the coaching staff they are not in a rebuild in their minds are so far from it they're trying to salvage this season and no matter what happens they will try to win as many games as possible and that means if they want to win 4 in a row at the end ruin your high draft pick they will do it they did it in 2020 and they will still do it because they will never take and never be in a full rebuild while Prescott or Romo still had tread left on their tire it's not happening.....

That ship sailed as soon as they signed Lamb and then soon follow signed Prescott and now everything they've done in this offseason and still going on right now says there's no way shape or form isn't even close to the word rebuild...

Teams like this with this much veteran and middling veteran core players they call it retooling they just going to try to retool the problem is the defensive coordinator doesn't have much parts for him to build his type of defense so that was a bad hire I don't know who hired him or why if they knew he was going to be too stubborn to run some kind of hybrid or do something different than his normal defense And I don't if that was a miscommunication or Matt's just giving Jerry the finger..

They are retooling they are trying to add to this core and trying to win not rebuild, retool.. It might in fact take another offseason to get this defense right but right now we're in the middle of a season that's barely begun barely 1 quarter in and they are not giving up and waving the white flag to get better draft picks..

That was a tough read BB, I get you like long messages but you could try being succinct sometimes too?

From what I disected in your message, you are saying some fans need to stop saying this a rebuild year as the FO don't think it is?

Yup, I agree with you, the FO don't see it as a rebuild year.

However.........I and many others believe it should be, simple as that.

I'd rather pick 8 in the draft than float about this year watching some good games and some bad and end up picking 19.

Maybe we don't even pick at 8, we could trade that too for a later 1 and a 2 or better still, a later 1 and a 1 in 2027 so we hit 2027 with 3 1s in our pocket.

Please don't rant at me because I believe differently from you, this is a message board where we come to debate / share etc.......tell me you get that?

 

[RonWashington]

This team is so inconsistent they could lose to the Jets.

They will have “ turned the corner “ when they consistently play well on the road . Jets Panthers both road games.