No real fan will use the refs as an excuse...

[SultanOfSix]

Take off your homer glasses and stop blaming other for our team's horrible showing.

Dallas 10 penalties for 67 yards
Green Bay 12 penalties for 102 yards.
Most of which was in the first half.

Like all statistics, they can be misleading because they don't consider context. You always have to consider the context.

Just because Dallas has less penalties than GB doesn't mean the game wasn't called in a one-sided manner because 1) non-calls that should have been called are not in the stats 2) the context of the penalty has to be taken account, i.e. whether a fumble was wrongfully not ruled, or overturned, or a penalty was called that shouldn't have been that cost posts, etc.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

on 3rd and 23 when the QB gets sacked and fumbles deep in his own territory....you call a very borderline hands to the face giving them the ball back and an automatic 1st dow? You can't do that. PERIOD! And that ain't blaming the refs...that is calling it like it happened.!

 

[RS12]

When you are making 10 grand a game dont you think you should at least know the rules? Also maybe be able to keep track of how many challenges the other team has?

 

[JBond]

I respectfully disagree... the zebras hurt us by making poor calls on two occasions that could have made the difference in the game. While I don't generally agree with BSPN, their article on this particular matter should be read as it makes sense.

The zebras told the Oline to let GB smash Tony over and over? Really? The told RW to fumble? They told our coaches to abandon the run?

Losers make excuses. Winners fix their mistakes.

Not trying to be disrespectful and I appreciate your response but I just see it differently and I am still pissed. I will mellow out by tomorrow.

It didn't help my sister had her latest hubby over for the game and he was wearing a piece of foam cheese on his head. The guy is 50 years old and wears fake cheese on his head for christ sake. Then he dumped nacho cheese all over my new carpet. Long night.

 

[JBond]

on 3rd and 23 when the QB gets sacked and fumbles deep in his own territory....you call a very borderline hands to the face giving them the ball back and an automatic 1st dow? You can't do that. PERIOD! And that ain't blaming the refs...that is calling it like it happened.!

So you are saying the hands to the face did not happen?

 

[JBond]

Like all statistics, they can be misleading because they don't consider context. You always have to consider the context.

Just because Dallas has less penalties than GB doesn't mean the game wasn't called in a one-sided manner because 1) non-calls that should have been called are not in the stats 2) the context of the penalty has to be taken account, i.e. whether a fumble was wrongfully not ruled, or overturned, or a penalty was called that shouldn't have been that cost posts, etc.

Dallas did not take advantage. GB did.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

When you are making 10 grand a game dont you think you should at least know the rules? Also maybe be able to keep track of how many challenges the other team has?

When you make a million a game you shouldn't throw interceptions. But it happens.

It's not a perfect world.

 

[Hook'em#11]

on 3rd and 23 when the QB gets sacked and fumbles deep in his own territory....you call a very borderline hands to the face giving them the ball back and an automatic 1st dow? You can't do that. PERIOD! And that ain't blaming the refs...that is calling it like it happened.!

You are correct, Jenkins can't do that. He can't commit that foul. But, he did, and it was the right call. And it sucks for Dallas, as well as the false starts, holdings, SCANDRICK and everything. So, the penalties killed Dallas and it needs to be cleaned up. Now.

 

[jimmy40]

Like all statistics, they can be misleading because they don't consider context. You always have to consider the context.

Just because Dallas has less penalties than GB doesn't mean the game wasn't called in a one-sided manner because 1) non-calls that should have been called are not in the stats 2) the context of the penalty has to be taken account, i.e. whether a fumble was wrongfully not ruled, or overturned, or a penalty was called that shouldn't have been that cost posts, etc.

You've been on this site for years saying the NFL is fixed. To you it's nothing more than the WWF so quit complaining about calls.

 

[speedkilz88]

So you are saying the hands to the face did not happen?

From the replay I saw, he never grabbed it or pushed on it which is what normally what has to happen to get that called. Just a slight bump is ignored except for this one instant.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Dallas did not take advantage. GB did.

Pointing out a wrong doesn't mean people are making excuses. I may be able to overcome a situation, but that doesn't make what invoked the situation right.

The excuses are being given by the NFL every year for not shoring up their reffing, which is allowing fans of the game to question its integrity. When are they going to be taken to account?

 

[aikemirv]

I understand that but when you put plays into the hands of the refs then you take a risk. The play was not reviewable that is what they were told from the replay booth but had our guys did their job to begin with this situations does not take place. I put the blame on our guys 1st and foremost, we allowed the blitzer in who blindsided Romo causing the fumble

Every single play is in the hands of the refs. I am not sure what you are talking about. A fumble is not putting it in the hands of the refs, they are supposed to do there jobs period. Felix was down by contact, period. They were not challenging the recovery of the ball, he was challenging down by contact - that one pissed me off to no end. Mcbriar forced a fumble, his knee was not opn the ground when Mcbriar poked it free. Like I said every play is in the hands of the refs just like the Ridgers sack and Scandricks recovery!

Roy Williams and the referees changed this ballgame. Yes we played awful but 4 plays turned this game!!!!!!

 

[jimmy40]

on 3rd and 23 when the QB gets sacked and fumbles deep in his own territory....you call a very borderline hands to the face giving them the ball back and an automatic 1st dow? You can't do that. PERIOD! And that ain't blaming the refs...that is calling it like it happened.!

you say that like the ref saw the end of the play and then threw the flag.

 

[aikemirv]

So you are saying the hands to the face did not happen?

Did you actually see hands to the face because I did not. The replay did not show it. Does holding happen on every play in the NFL?

 

[SultanOfSix]

You've been on this site for years saying the NFL is fixed. To you it's nothing more than the WWF so quit complaining about calls.

And you're the idiot who still thinks "fixed" means "scripted" to win.

 

[JBond]

Well, I consider myself a "real" fan and the officiating yesterday was horrific. I wouldn't allow that crew to officiate a dog show.

With that said, it's not the reason we lost the game. It is however the reason the Packers got one of their touchdowns after the Romo fumble.

Never said the officiating didn't suck. I agree it did... on both sides. But players win or loose the games. I just hate excuses and pansy fans that want to cry about the zebras. It doesn't matter what the they do. What matters is how we execute. Yesterday we played like a ****ty team. No other way to say it.

 

[utrunner07]

The Cowboys played like crap last night. It is very simple. I have read several threads were people are crying about the officiating. Those same people never admit when we get the breaks. The cowboys played crappy football in all three areas. Time of possession is what killed us in the end.

I do not blame Tony. He did what he could. Other teams overcome injuries and we should be able to also. I have been hard on the RW bashers, but it is time to make him a #3 for a couple of games. He will fold or step up. Best we know for sure what we have before the real challenges in make or break games come up.

Still a believer but very disappointed this morning. This was the worst game we have played in a long time.

I have not seen anyone blame the reffing, though it was absolutely horrendous. As far as the worst game played in a long time. You only have to go back 9 games to see a performance far worse. Some of you have such short memories.

 

[Doomsday101]

Every single play is in the hands of the refs. I am not sure what you are talking about. A fumble is not putting it in the hands of the refs, they are supposed to do there jobs period. Felix was down by contact, period. They were not challenging the recovery of the ball, he was challenging down by contact - that one pissed me off to no end. Mcbriar forced a fumble, his knee was not opn the ground when Mcbriar poked it free. Like I said every play is in the hands of the refs just like the Ridgers sack and Scandricks recovery!

Roy Williams and the referees changed this ballgame. Yes we played awful but 4 plays turned this game!!!!!!

No the game is not in their hands every single play. Dallas played poor and made mistakes that cost us the game period. We don't block and fumble that is on Dallas not the refs. I was not happy with the refs for the most part but Dallas cost themselfs the game no one else did. You play like crap I expect to lose the game. If it make you feel better to say it was the refs well go for it.

 

[JBond]

Did you actually see hands to the face because I did not. The replay did not show it. Does holding happen on every play in the NFL?

He hit him in the head. Pretty clear to me anyway. Maybe one of the internet studs can post the picture.

 

[el_chevo]

The zebras told the Oline to let GB smash Tony over and over? Really? The told RW to fumble? They told our coaches to abandon the run?

Losers make excuses. Winners fix their mistakes.

Not trying to be disrespectful and I appreciate your response but I just see it differently and I am still pissed. I will mellow out by tomorrow.

It didn't help my sister had her latest hubby over for the game and he was wearing a piece of foam cheese on his head. The guy is 50 years old and wears fake cheese on his head for christ sake. Then he dumped nacho cheese all over my new carpet. Long night.

I agree that winners fix their mistakes. However, the truth of the matter is that the refs should not determine the outcome of a game with poor calling. Yes, Roy fumbled and Woodson put a hit on Tony that caused a fumble. The rest, however, begs to be brought to the attention of the league when it concerns poor officiating that changed the outcome of a game. Dallas, in my opinion, could have made a comeback. They were hampered by poor officiating. Poor officiating should never be made a concern for teams. Officiating should be a constant and done without errors.
On another note, you are a better person than me for allowing your sister's hubby to wear that crap in your house and then spill cheese on your carpet. Wow....