No real fan will use the refs as an excuse...

[JBond]

Pointing out a wrong doesn't mean people are making excuses. I may be able to overcome a situation, but that doesn't make what invoked the situation right.

The excuses are being given by the NFL every year for not shoring up their reffing, which is allowing fans of the game to question its integrity. When are they going to be taken to account?

This I agree with 100%. Not trying to fight with anyone. Just hate excuses when we get our ***** handed to us. The officials are the last reason we lost that game.

 

[cowboyjoe]

The Cowboys played like crap last night. It is very simple. I have read several threads were people are crying about the officiating. Those same people never admit when we get the breaks. The cowboys played crappy football in all three areas. Time of possession is what killed us in the end.

I do not blame Tony. He did what he could. Other teams overcome injuries and we should be able to also. I have been hard on the RW bashers, but it is time to make him a #3 for a couple of games. He will fold or step up. Best we know for sure what we have before the real challenges in make or break games come up.

Still a believer but very disappointed this morning. This was the worst game we have played in a long time.

some of us are not crying, we are mad;
it was total incompetence on part of the refs

Need i remind you, one ref tried to call a penalty on newman, when a green bay packer hit one of our players on the sideline, Newman had to go and point at the ref and say no. Then 2 refs had to go to the ref that made the call and correct him. Now if that isnt total incompetence tell me what it is?

Also, a real cowboys fan wouldnt put up with this horrible terrible officiating from the NFL, there was a terrible call in the miami tampa bay game, when the head coach tried to complain he got a 15 yard penalty. I dont know if you saw the colts patriots game or not, but the patriot had the first down on 4th and 2, but refs blew the call. And i totally hate the patriots because of belicheck the cheater.

Total imcompetence from the refs.

 

[dbair1967]

Take off your homer glasses and stop blaming other for our team's horrible showing.

Dallas 10 penalties for 67 yards
Green Bay 12 penalties for 102 yards.
Most of which was in the first half.

There's nothing homer about it, and it has nothing to do with the NUMBER pf penalties called. I didnt see them blowing possession calls or ngating a huge turnover on their behalf with b/s.

So the refs told Dallas not to block and to drop balls and call stupid plays? They forced us to not take advantage of mistakes by GB? Get over it.

I had already acknowledged the team lost because it played poorly, mainly offensively (and almost all of it was due to the OL).

You still cannot claim it (refs) had no impact whatsoever. There's a difference between blaming the officials for a loss and stating they had an impact. They did have an impact.

 

[ShiningStar]

The Cowboys played like crap last night. It is very simple. I have read several threads were people are crying about the officiating. Those same people never admit when we get the breaks. The cowboys played crappy football in all three areas. Time of possession is what killed us in the end.

I do not blame Tony. He did what he could. Other teams overcome injuries and we should be able to also. I have been hard on the RW bashers, but it is time to make him a #3 for a couple of games. He will fold or step up. Best we know for sure what we have before the real challenges in make or break games come up.

Still a believer but very disappointed this morning. This was the worst game we have played in a long time.

Normally i would agree, but COME ON!!!!!!!! A free time out!!!!!!!!!!! NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. Tripplet needs to be fined for that and a message sent to the refs "NO MORE" This shouldnt have happened and it was a sorry state of referring that no one can argue on both sides.

 

[Doomsday101]

There's nothing homer about it, and it has nothing to do with the NUMBER pf penalties called. I didnt see them blowing possession calls or ngating a huge turnover on their behalf with b/s.



I had already acknowledged the team lost because it played poorly, mainly offensively (and almost all of it was due to the OL).

You still cannot claim it (refs) had no impact whatsoever. There's a difference between blaming the officials for a loss and stating they had an impact. They did have an impact.

And there is nothing any team can do about the refs what Dallas can control they failed to control

 

[dbair1967]

He hit him in the head. Pretty clear to me anyway. Maybe one of the internet studs can post the picture.

fine, he "touched" him. If they are gonna call junk THAT close, when it clearly had no impact on the play whatsoever then you gotta call it both ways EVERY time.

I bet the number of times our guys are held, "touched" "chucked" etc etc numbers in the dozens and dozens, and we dont get that call. Champ Bailey repeatedly chucked our guys 10, 15 even 20 yds downfield in that denever game and didnt get it called once as I recall

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

When Felix recovered the ball he was down by contact. That call is worse than the tuck rule.

 

[Mash]

Our D did all they could.....

Our O was not prepared and out of sync......we struggled.....

It comes down to our OL......its the most overrated unit in football....we struggle with the Blitz and Romo does make the pass protection look better then it really is.

Our running game isnt solid......the numbers can be misleading....we seem to have the beef....but we are too slow......

Felix isnt heathy.....Barber bounces things outside too much......etc...

That being said......it was just a bad game........for this team to win....to succeed....our D must play like it has...and Romo has to carry us......This team succeeds by setting up the run with the pass.....

Lets hope we dont struggle in the next two easy games....they should be easy victories.....

IMHO....worst part of yesterdays game other then the refs blowing another of many NFL games was the injuries we had....

 

[iceberg]

While they (refs) didnt cause the fumble, our guy clearly recovered the ball, and refs made the wrong call and then stated it couldnt be reviewed. So yeah, they gave them the ball.

and crayton didn't catch that ball either and w/GB out of challenges, we got lucky there.

or do we dismiss the mistakes that go our way?

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

and crayton didn't catch that ball either and w/GB out of challenges, we got lucky there.

or do we dismiss the mistakes that go our way?

That was clearly a catch.

 

[iceberg]

That was clearly a catch.

if it was clearly a catch it would not have been challeneged, would it?

i have no idea if it would have gone our way or not, but it seems GB had one overturned cause it touched the ground. i'd not have disagreed if they found the same result on craytons "catch".

for some fans, objectivity is simply non-existant.

 

[Doomsday101]

if it was clearly a catch it would not have been challeneged, would it?

i have no idea if it would have gone our way or not, but it seems GB had one overturned cause it touched the ground. i'd not have disagreed if they found the same result on craytons "catch".

for some fans, objectivity is simply non-existant.

I will say on that Crayton catch since it was ruled a catch on the field looking at the replay I don't think it would have been over turned. Crayton had his left hand on the bottom on the ball the whole way. Rule does state that the replay must be conclusive to over turn it and never seen anything that would have turned it over. In fairness if the had called a no catch I'm not sure there would have been enough to over turn that either.

 

[iceberg]

I will say on that Crayton catch since it was ruled a catch on the field looking at the replay I don't think it would have been over turned. Crayton had his left hand on the bottom on the ball the whole way. Rule does state that the replay must be conclusive to over turn it and never seen anything that would have turned it over. In fairness if the had called a no catch I'm not sure there would have been enough to over turn that either.

i'm glad it didn't go into that "decision" mode myself. i do agree it was close. i don't think it was "clearly" a catch however.

the simple fact of the matter is not all calls go your way. while i hear people complain about the bad ones (and the fumble jones recovered was a terrible call) it's not as if we were doing anything on 2nd / 3rd and a mile anyway. we get the ball back and can punt and save the easy TD.

so yea, it was huge in the outcome of the game. but it's also the nature of the game that won't ever be changed. i suppose, neither will complaining about bad calls either.

 

[JBond]

fine, he "touched" him. If they are gonna call junk THAT close, when it clearly had no impact on the play whatsoever then you gotta call it both ways EVERY time.

I bet the number of times our guys are held, "touched" "chucked" etc etc numbers in the dozens and dozens, and we dont get that call. Champ Bailey repeatedly chucked our guys 10, 15 even 20 yds downfield in that denever game and didnt get it called once as I recall

I agree with you it did not effect the play, but it was a penalty. I also agree the refs did a crappy job, no doubt.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

you guys that KEEP saying the hands to the face was the correct call are unreal to me. This is football....NO team has a 3rd and 23 play they can run....it better be blatant and intentional and obvious when you give someone and automaitc first down on 3rd and 23. Holding happens on EVERY play in the NFL...do you think it is called? The refs KNOW the down and distance before a play is run...I am not so sure it was hands to the face...and if it was, it certainly did not violate the spirit of the rule. Heck for all we know WRs could try to dip their heads when they get jammed on 3rd down to force that to be called. That was way to ticky tack in that situation. Maybe on first down you give a team 5 yards....but to award 23 UNEARNED on 3rd down in just pitiful!

 

[Monster Heel]

The so called "real fans" here never run out of excuses for the Cowboys when they under perform.

 

[ShiningStar]

The so called "real fans" here never run out of excuses for the Cowboys when they under perform.

NO way, that offensive line played horrible and i blame HH and Garrett for that. Bottom line.

 

[Doomsday101]

i'm glad it didn't go into that "decision" mode myself. i do agree it was close. i don't think it was "clearly" a catch however.

the simple fact of the matter is not all calls go your way. while i hear people complain about the bad ones (and the fumble jones recovered was a terrible call) it's not as if we were doing anything on 2nd / 3rd and a mile anyway. we get the ball back and can punt and save the easy TD.

so yea, it was huge in the outcome of the game. but it's also the nature of the game that won't ever be changed. i suppose, neither will complaining about bad calls either.

As I said had the call been a no catch I'm not sure if there was enough to over rule that either so you are right I did not think it was a clear cut call but based on what I saw I did think he made the catch.

 

[ShiningStar]

you guys that KEEP saying the hands to the face was the correct call are unreal to me. This is football....NO team has a 3rd and 23 play they can run....it better be blatant and intentional and obvious when you give someone and automaitc first down on 3rd and 23. Holding happens on EVERY play in the NFL...do you think it is called? The refs KNOW the down and distance before a play is run...I am not so sure it was hands to the face...and if it was, it certainly did not violate the spirit of the rule. Heck for all we know WRs could try to dip their heads when they get jammed on 3rd down to force that to be called. That was way to ticky tack in that situation. Maybe on first down you give a team 5 yards....but to award 23 UNEARNED on 3rd down in just pitiful!

Wow, great point, great post.

 

[DallasEast]

The team played poorly. That's a given. Should the officiating be questioned? Absolutely, but the bad calls do not outweigh how often the team shot itself in the foot yesterday.

However, I would like for anyone to defend the referees for the following:

• Felix Jones fell on the loose ball.

• His body was laying flat nearly face down.

• A Green Bay defender fell on top of him.

• The defender reached underneath Jones and grabbed part of the football.

• The defender proceeded to pull and twist the football from Jones' grasp. This is evidenced by Jones' body turning completely 180 degree face up.

• At this point, the football was wrestled completely out of Jones' grip.

The referees stated that all of the above constitued a fumble as defined by football rules and regulations. The consequence of their ruling gave the ball to the Packers deep in the red zone.

Does anyone (literally) agree with their decision? Yes, I fully understand the wording of my first paragraph.