Nors, post your henson story

[aikemirv]

Henson 1998 era - "what do backup mean coach - you told my daddy i was going to be the starter?"

Oh, and by the way, if that happenned you are holding something against him that happenned 8 years ago when he was 18 years old, while all the time with the Cowboys he has been a complete class act, done all the right things, said all the right things , worked his butt off during the offseason as well.

Never has complained once - boy , he is such a premadona!

What a joke!!!!!

 

[31WillHammerU]

Hey Nor, who is Larry Keenan??

What role did he play in Henson becoming a Cowboy?

You should know this..

 

[RCowboyFan]

I'm guessing you meant "recruiting" not "drafting" and that is patently false. Michigan offered scholarships to two QBs and one QB/Athlete the year after Henson signed.

Yeah, I don't remember any freeze either. I have read most of that "article". While quite a bit of it is true, boy you can see the hatred or dislike the writer has for Henson.

Its pretty funny how Brady's missteps are due to only pressure etc. and Henson's bad games were due to his ability But its true, Brady indeed was the "Better" Qb in 1998 and 1999. But whats not true is the "Cannon" arm that Brady has/had and accuracy. Henson was clearly superior in Arm strength, and in his Junior year, was best accuracy I have seen in Michigan QB.

And I have to admit, I myself was one of those who thought Carr was not doing the right thing by rotating Henson and Brady. Brady simply was more consistant, obviously due to his command of the offense etc. And yes, Brady would have been undisputed starter if Henson wasn't in picture.

But whats also true is, when Henson didn't start 2000 season, Navarre proved, he can play against far inferior competition, but when it came to serious competition, he didn't have the ability to do it. Henson just took it over in 2000, much like I thought Brady should have in 1998. But Henson had much more talent than Navarre ever had.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Nah, apparently it has SOMETHING to do with Tom Brady. But I can't figure it out.

Oh sorry....how could I be so far off base

 

[JakeCamp12]

Nors, you generally have good comments to make on here, but just because people wanted to start Henson when he showed up, posssibly had more to do with the awful state of our QB situation and that we as fans were clamoring to groom someone young, versus everyone thinking he was better than say Drew Bledsoe. And I for one would have supported starting Henson and having Bledsoe back him up so we can groom a QB for the future, not patch the leaking dyke one more time with a guy that maybe has 3 years, tops, as a starting QB in Dallas.

 

[Alexander]

Hey, Tom Brady has proved he can be an effective "system" QB. But he's not half the talent Henson is or was.

Are you serious?

"System" QB?

"Half the talent, is or was?"

I would probably murder my favorite of two grandmothers if Henson turned out half as good as Brady.

We can all argue idiotic concepts such as "pedigree" and so forth, but all Henson has shown is hype based off his athleticism and a handful of actual games.

Brady has results and didn't have to take a European Vacation to jump start his career.

 

[superpunk]

Are you serious?

"System" QB?

"Half the talent, is or was?"

I would probably murder my favorite of two grandmothers if Henson turned out half as good as Brady.

We can all argue idiotic concepts such as "pedigree" and so forth, but all Henson has shown is hype based off his athleticism and a handful of actual games.

Brady has results and didn't have to take a European Vacation to jump start his career.

Heh...you might want to consider who I'm responding to before taking that statement too seriously....

 

[CrazyCowboy]

I hope Henson comes through.....because, I was one of those fans who got too excited about the talent (or lack of) of Drew Henson!

Nors.....I am guilty as charged!

 

[gbrittain]

What a lot of people forget (You Did Not) is that most people that wanted Henson starting wanted him to do so over Vinny Testaverde.

I have heard people defend BP until they are blue in the face, but there was no excuse for Vinny T to play once it became painfully obvious the Cowboys were going no where in 2004.

That was a lost year.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I think he was being sarcastic. I hope he was.

If Henson performs well in NFLE and comes into Cowboys training camp and tears it up, he'll earn my respect. It will be the first time he's ever started from the ground up and worked his way up the ladder through performance without being handed anything based on hype. He does seem to be a likable guy and have a good attitude. We'll see. This is a first for him, just being another struggling player in a league full of struggling players. I'm interested in seeing how he handles it. Maybe he'll perform in that situation better than he's performed in the spotlight of the Cowboys and Yankees, but until then I remain skeptical.

 

[gbrittain]

Heh...you might want to consider who I'm responding to before taking that statement too seriously....

Yeah, I saw the sarcasm.

 

[Hostile]

1) Henson supporters were calling to start Henson as early as signed in 2004, all season in 2004 and to start 2005.
One poster went so far as to advocate signing Bledsoe to backup Henson - serious.

2) Romo? Is nothing more than a decent backup QB prospect.
99% of all my comments/discussion on Romo/Henson have been over who should be the BACKUP. THats what it is. And Romo beat out Henson last year......


Read the story Reality - there's meat there for you on Henson.

Yes, I did. How many posts since that 1 post have I said Bledsoe is the starter? It is easily in the dozens of posts. What I said about Bledsoe was before he was even released. You expect me to apologize for wanting Henson to succeed. I won't. Ever.

You're attempted to have that 1 post brand me for months and months. At the same time you dismiss when you say one thing and then reverse field completely later. Or have you forgotten Stanley Spadowski schooling you on your assessment of Kiwi and his ability to play the 3-4? In your world every poster is branded by what they say 2 years ago, but you are free to change your mind. Hypocrisy is often hilarious. This is just such a time.

It sure explains why welching on a friendly bet is predictable for you. Did I say integrity? I believe I did.

Can you show me where I have ever not backed Bledsoe as the starter? The answer, of course, is no you can't. The closest you can get to any "hate" I have for Bledsoe (yes, you have characterized me as a hater of him) is that I do not think he is a sure fire Hall of Famer, yet.

The fact of the matter is your dislike of Henson is hypocritical because you do not post the same vitriol for Tony Romo, who has even less experience. Maybe it's because Romo didn't play for the Yankess. I have no idea. It doesn't change the fact that you point out non stop every flaw you perceive in one guy and none in the other.

There is no way on this earth that you can tell me that if Romo were in NFLE on the Rhein Fire instead of Henson that you'd be pulling for Timmy Chang, a freaking Eagle, over him. Yet that is exactly what you portray here every day. That you secretly hope Chang takes that job.

And you wonder why you catch grief from fellow Cowboys fans. Rooting for the Patriots is bad enough. Rooting for the Eagles is flat out disgusting.

Characterizing yourself as only posting Romo over Henson as backup is not true, and you know it. Or maybe I shouldn't assume you do. Probably safer since your story changes daily with the direction of the wind.

 

[Hostile]

What a lot of people forget (You Did Not) is that most people that wanted Henson starting wanted him to do so over Vinny Testaverde.

I have heard people defend BP until they are blue in the face, but there was no excuse for Vinny T to play once it became painfully obvious the Cowboys were going no where in 2004.

That was a lost year.

 

[gbrittain]

Are you serious?

"System" QB?

"Half the talent, is or was?"

I would probably murder my favorite of two grandmothers if Henson turned out half as good as Brady.

We can all argue idiotic concepts such as "pedigree" and so forth, but all Henson has shown is hype based off his athleticism and a handful of actual games.

Brady has results and didn't have to take a European Vacation to jump start his career.

Brady has results and didn't have to take a European Vacation to jump start his career.

I know Brady is a great QB, as a matter of fact I believe him to be the best QB in the NFL.

There is one thing that bothers me about your statement though. You might know more about this than me and clear it up for me, but what exactly did anyone think of Tom Brady before Drew Bledsoe got injured?

For all we know had Bledsoe not gotten hurt Brady could have just been rotting away as Bledsoe's back up for several years (The years of their Superbowl runs).

Also look at Ben R in Pittsburgh. His rookie year he was not supposed to start. Tommy Maddox was the starter and Pittsburgh had put their hopes in Tommy for that year. As a matter of fact I vaguely remember one of the Pittsburgh offensive lineman going off in the media about having to rely on a rookie.

Of course once Ben R took the reign he never lost a game until the AFC Championship game and we all know what happened this year.

I guess the point I am trying to make is sometimes there are very talented QBs sitting on the bench accomplishing nothing because the Head Coach does not realize what he has. Needless to say even coaches who have won four of the last five Superbowls between them had their depth chart wrong and the only way the were able to see the error of their ways is due to an injury.

 

[Cbz40]

I know Brady is a great QB, as a matter of fact I believe him to be the best QB in the NFL.

There is one thing that bothers me about your statement though. You might know more about this than me and clear it up for me, but what exactly did anyone think of Tom Brady before Drew Bledsoe got injured?

For all we know had Bledsoe not gotten hurt Brady could have just been rotting away as Bledsoe's back up for several years (The years of their Superbowl runs).

Also look at Ben R in Pittsburgh. His rookie year he was not supposed to start. Tommy Maddox was the starter and Pittsburgh had put their hopes in Tommy for that year. As a matter of fact I vaguely remember one of the Pittsburgh offensive lineman going off in the media about having to rely on a rookie.

Of course once Ben R took the reign he never lost a game until the AFC Championship game and we all know what happened this year.

I guess the point I am trying to make is sometimes there are very talented QBs sitting on the bench accomplishing nothing because the Head Coach does not realize what he has. Needless to say even coaches who have won four of the last five Superbowls between them had their depth chart wrong and the only way the were able to see the error of their ways is due to an injury.

Post of the day!!!!!!!

 

[Rogerthat12]

Wow, an amateur page written by a fan who clearly has a major man-crush on Tom Brady. What an unbiased "article" that is.

Funny though how Brady has 3 SB rings..gotta be something to the matter

 

[superpunk]

Maybe it's because Romo didn't play for the Yankess. I have no idea.

You know how those New England fans feel about the Yankees.

 

[RCowboyFan]

I know Brady is a great QB, as a matter of fact I believe him to be the best QB in the NFL.

There is one thing that bothers me about your statement though. You might know more about this than me and clear it up for me, but what exactly did anyone think of Tom Brady before Drew Bledsoe got injured?

For all we know had Bledsoe not gotten hurt Brady could have just been rotting away as Bledsoe's back up for several years (The years of their Superbowl runs).

Also look at Ben R in Pittsburgh. His rookie year he was not supposed to start. Tommy Maddox was the starter and Pittsburgh had put their hopes in Tommy for that year. As a matter of fact I vaguely remember one of the Pittsburgh offensive lineman going off in the media about having to rely on a rookie.

Of course once Ben R took the reign he never lost a game until the AFC Championship game and we all know what happened this year.

I guess the point I am trying to make is sometimes there are very talented QBs sitting on the bench accomplishing nothing because the Head Coach does not realize what he has. Needless to say even coaches who have won four of the last five Superbowls between them had their depth chart wrong and the only way the were able to see the error of their ways is due to an injury.

He actually looked pretty awful that first game he played, against Ravens, when Maddox was injured. Thats why Alan Faneca made that comment when asked about him liking the idea of rookie playing etc.

He won the ugly rain drenched game against Miami I believe and then from there, it took off. Really, probably, the game against Dallas was his turning point, where he got his team back on the road.

 

[gbrittain]

Post of the day!!!!!!!

Man...I got a Hammer Nail icon from Hos and Post of the day from you in one thread.

I better not post anymore today. You know "quit while your ahead" kind of thing.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Interesting read. Clearly Pro Brady but I have nothing against that. Brady is the finest QB in professional Football today, IMO. There is no shame in getting beaten out (if that is how you choose to view it) by an older, more experienced Tom Brady.

It was a good read.