Nors, post your henson story

[Nors]

EE -Its well - 2006

That we don't know about Henson yet is well, becoming the point.


This is a discussion board. What exactly are we to discuss and talk about?

 

[SultanOfSix]

Norsinh8trs?

Yes. Nors thinks the world revolves around him. Copernicus destroyed that theory centuries ago.

The anti-Henson crowd is pretty much just Nors, karter, and maybe Charles. Everyone else is taking a wait and see approach, hoping he may be the QB of the future because of his potential.

 

[EveryoneElse]

EE -Its well - 2006

That we don't know about Henson yet is well, becoming the point.


This is a discussion board. What exactly are we to discuss and talk about?

My point is NOBODY knows, net me, not you, not anyone. None of us know if Henson will be a good QB or not.

For you, or any other to sit and continue to try and convince everyone that Henson won't ammount to anything because BP made him the 3rd QB behind and undrafted FS QB is frankly ridiculous. For all you or any of us know, he may have did that to get him more snaps in practice running the scout team. Sounds logical to me, or maybe he is a 3rd string talent. I'll wait and see what happens before I run up 500,000 posts about Henson being no better than an Undrafted FA QB.

Everyone, EVERYONE on this board should really be rooting for Henson to succeed. Problem is, many are bashing the guy and writing him off before he has done anything negative or positive.

 

[Cbz40]

My point is NOBODY knows, net me, not you, not anyone. None of us know if Henson will be a good QB or not.

For you, or any other to sit and continue to try and convince everyone that Henson won't ammount to anything because BP made him the 3rd QB behind and undrafted FS QB is frankly ridiculous. For all you or any of us know, he may have did that to get him more snaps in practice running the scout team. Sounds logical to me, or maybe he is a 3rd string talent. I'll wait and see what happens before I run up 500,000 posts about Henson being no better than an Undrafted FA QB.

Everyone, EVERYONE on this board should really be rooting for Henson to succeed. Problem is, many are bashing the guy and writing him off before he has done anything negative or positive.

Excellent post

Many have been preaching the same sermon for the past two years......so don't be that upset if it falls on deaf ears.

 

[EveryoneElse]

The anti-Henson crowd is pretty much just Nors, karter, and maybe Charles..

While I hope Romo turns out to be a good one, I find it strange that at least two of them are huge Romo supporters.

I want both QBs to progress, but why these guys are rooting against and writing Henson off is beyond me.

Neither QB has done anything, but Henson has seen the field. That says something. Though, he didn't have avery good start....what can you expect out of a first start? It wasn't the worst I've seen. Heck, we let some clown run the offense for three years after having a worse first career start than Henson's.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Two years ago he was the backup, that is why he came in for an injured Vinny and started the next game. By the way, as a rookie complete 55.6% of his pass's and got a 61.8 QB rating, what was Eli's and Ben's after their 1st game ?

That is when Romo was the 3rd QB...

Or Romo would have come in for the Injured VT and started against Chicago.

Henson and Romo have been flip flopping 2nd and 3rd QB on this team.

Henson is now getting extra work, as he asked for. Shows me that he wants to keep on working on getting the repititions he needs to become better and better. NFLE...Its all good.

Thats all lovely, but now hes relegated to third string for the Boys and on a European tour. Project player written all over him.

For the record Romo was the number two behind Bledsoe all of last season. Not that it says much.

 

[Nors]

Brady being drafted was nothing more than an accident.

If not for the stellar draft history of Pioli and Bellicheck I might agree with you.

An accident is more like Roy in our 1999-2002 draft history. He's the only 1 left of those 4 drafts. A monkey could have drafted better than the JJ/Lacewell Duo there!

 

[Nors]

Norsinh8trs?

Self Deprecation needs work Nors.

Are you trying to get bathroom humor by the filter?

 

[Tio]

Nice article, big mancrush on Brady though...

 

[StanleySpadowski]

I have another few things archived that would blow Norsinh8trs heads up like a pumpkin microwaved.

In your words -- BRING IT


For everything that you have archived, I'll bring back five times the things you've been wrong about.

 

[Nors]

While I hope Romo turns out to be a good one, I find it strange that at least two of them are huge Romo supporters.

I want both QBs to progress, but why these guys are rooting against and writing Henson off is beyond me.

Neither QB has done anything, but Henson has seen the field. That says something. Though, he didn't have avery good start....what can you expect out of a first start? It wasn't the worst I've seen. Heck, we let some clown run the offense for three years after having a worse first career start than Henson's.

EOE: At some point this is on Henson. Not me bro - Read the story, read the Baseball years, watch whats happening here. Heck - lets blame BP for all this.

I just correctly predicted Romo would beat out Henson to Backup Bledsoe. Candidly, Henson can use the reps in NFLe. Because behind the name, the stoic athlete. The next Elway. Is a 26 year old with a whole bunch of snakes spinning around in his head. He needs to get it all clear and rebound this and now. His career to date really has not had a lot of success other than 2000. And thats a long time ago now.

If Henson comes back - outplays Bledsoe and Romo I'll give him the props. I don't see him starting for Dallas anytime soon but I've been wrong before and you will remind me If I am here:laugh2:

 

[Nors]

In your words -- BRING IT


For everything that you have archived, I'll bring back five times the things you've been wrong about.

SS - I posted an article that was requested by fellow board member related to Henson/Brady and Michigan years. What the heck does me being wrong about anything have to do with that?

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

I know Brady is a great QB, as a matter of fact I believe him to be the best QB in the NFL.

There is one thing that bothers me about your statement though. You might know more about this than me and clear it up for me, but what exactly did anyone think of Tom Brady before Drew Bledsoe got injured?

For all we know had Bledsoe not gotten hurt Brady could have just been rotting away as Bledsoe's back up for several years (The years of their Superbowl runs).

Also look at Ben R in Pittsburgh. His rookie year he was not supposed to start. Tommy Maddox was the starter and Pittsburgh had put their hopes in Tommy for that year. As a matter of fact I vaguely remember one of the Pittsburgh offensive lineman going off in the media about having to rely on a rookie.

Of course once Ben R took the reign he never lost a game until the AFC Championship game and we all know what happened this year.

I guess the point I am trying to make is sometimes there are very talented QBs sitting on the bench accomplishing nothing because the Head Coach does not realize what he has. Needless to say even coaches who have won four of the last five Superbowls between them had their depth chart wrong and the only way the were able to see the error of their ways is due to an injury.

Yes, and who's to say that Bledsoe wouldn't have gone on to have the same success as Tom Brady? After all, the trademark of the Pats dynasty was impeccable coaching, gritty defense, rock solid special teams, and an offense that knew how to pick their spots in the passing game. Even if Brady never saw the field during the regular season, Brady's talent would have been discovered in training camp and the preseason by somebody. The bottom line is he's an aberration, and you likely won't see many QB's who are drafted in the 6th round have that type of career ever again. He just happened to be in the right place at the right time when Bledsoe got hurt.

As for Big Ben, that's a whole different story. He was drafted in the top 15 of the 1st round, his time was going to come sooner than later no matter what Maddox did...similar to the whole Eli Manning/Kurt Warner debacle in NY in 2004. In fact even before he got hurt, there were questions as to how long he would have stayed in the starting lineup with a #1 draft pick waiting in the wings. Going even further, you can argue that Big Ben's success was the result of rock solid system in pittsburgh based on a physical, dominating defense and a smash mouth running game. Big Ben may have a ring on his finger, but his 22 QB rating isn't the reason he won it....

 

[iceberg]

Yes, and who's to say that Bledsoe wouldn't have gone on to have the same success as Tom Brady?

no one, really. but what you fail to recognize is that maybe, just maybe, they'd have failed w/bledsoe just like every other year of his career.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

no one, really. but what you fail to recognize is that maybe, just maybe, they'd have failed w/bledsoe just like every other year of his career.

Anything is possible, however when you look at the bigger picture, it was bellechek's complex defensive schemes that carried this team. It don't matter who the QB was, it had nothing to do with styming the great offensive teams the likes of the colts, raiders, titans and steelers in the playoffs during their memorable dynasty run the last 4+ years.

Also going back to 2001.....the Pats started 0-2 with Bledsoe. They lost a tight game on opening day at cinnicinati, a game in which at least statisically Bledsoe played fairly well. The next week was the infamous game at the meadowlands when Drew got hurt by Mo Lewis and didn't even finish the game....enter Tom Brady, the Pats were 1-3, 2-3, 3-4, and ultimately 5-5 before they ran the table and won it all, lets not forget the infamous 'tuck rule' as well. I guess my point with this is that it serves as concrete proof that the pats success(at least with their first championship) was a TEAM effort, and they didn't gel as a TEAM until 10 games into the 2001 season.

 

[iceberg]

Anything is possible, however ...

no however. your buddy nors reminds us several times a day that henson is what he is with FACTS you simply can't refute.

so if you wanna play in a dreamworld, fine. but when you play in the facts like nors likes to say, the fact is they didn't win with drew.

no one has.

in a world of "possible" dats the fact, jack. : )

 

[Rush 2112]

Anything is possible, however when you look at the bigger picture, it was bellechek's complex defensive schemes that carried this team. It don't matter who the QB was, it had nothing to do with styming the great offensive teams the likes of the colts, raiders, titans and steelers in the playoffs during their memorable dynasty run the last 4+ years.

Also going back to 2001.....the Pats started 0-2 with Bledsoe. They lost a tight game on opening day at cinnicinati, a game in which at least statisically Bledsoe played fairly well. The next week was the infamous game at the meadowlands when Drew got hurt by Mo Lewis and didn't even finish the game....enter Tom Brady, the Pats were 1-3, 2-3, 3-4, and ultimately 5-5 before they ran the table and won it all, lets not forget the infamous 'tuck rule' as well. I guess my point with this is that it serves as concrete proof that the pats success(at least with their first championship) was a TEAM effort, and they didn't gel as a TEAM until 10 games into the 2001 season.

You couldn't be any more delusional.

How did their offense get to be ranked 6th, 12th, and 4th the years they won the Super Bowl?

Let me guess? Burschi and Viantieri?

Someone was throwing the ball to Branch when he won MVP.

I like Bledsoe but you ask 32 GM's and every scout in the league and they'll tell you Brady is 1000x the QB Bledsoe is.

IF both go to HOF one is going in on winning, leadership....

The other is going in on fantasy #'s.

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

no however. your buddy nors reminds us several times a day that henson is what he is with FACTS you simply can't refute.

so if you wanna play in a dreamworld, fine. but when you play in the facts like nors likes to say, the fact is they didn't win with drew.

no one has.

in a world of "possible" dats the fact, jack. : )

Getting back to Henson, I have never said that he's finished in the NFL. However, things are not looking to good at the moment. Not only is he 3rd on the depth chart behind Bledsoe and Romo, he's pretty much playing for his career in NFL Europe. And If he fails over there or looks average he will likely be cut before training camp. In fact there are no guarantees that we don't draft another QB in the draft to develop. Is it any coincidence that NFL europe season will be well underway by the time draft day comes? He will need to have a strong showing and if the rest of you are oblivious to this and don't understand the maneuvering going on here, than there's nothing I can do to help.

 

[Nors]

Rush - from a personell player standpoint

Would you trade Henson for a 3rd right now going into this draft?

 

[Bledsoe4MVP]

You couldn't be any more delusional.

How did their offense get to be ranked 6th, 12th, and 4th the years they won the Super Bowl?

Let me guess? Burschi and Viantieri?

Someone was throwing the ball to Branch when he won MVP.

I like Bledsoe but you ask 32 GM's and every scout in the league and they'll tell you Brady is 1000x the QB Bledsoe is.

IF both go to HOF one is going in on winning, leadership....

The other is going in on fantasy #'s.

Charlie Weiss's play calling had a quite a bit to do with it, and yes Brady's arm was a key contributor. But I think you missed the crux of my argument...it wasn't the Pats offense that won the games during the playoffs, except for maybe their last title when they destroyed the 15-1 steelers on their field. Brady had nothing to do with styming the colts consecutive years, and yes he put his team in position to win many games with a field goal (just like Bledsoe did this past season) but it was Vinateri that won 2 of the 3 superbowls. He was the true MVP, not Brady or Deon Branch. And if he's not the true MVP, that distinction goes to Bill Bellechek for devising intricate, well thought out defensive schemes week after week against the best teams in the league.

1000X the QB Bledsoe is? That's a bit of an exagerration, but if Tom Brady is in fact the best QB in the NFL, what does that make Bledsoe then? Last time I checked being traded because the next Joe Montana was discovered isn't a bad thing. And if you think Bledsoe lacks leadership, that further proves you don't know what your talking about.

And yes......both Brady and Bledsoe are going to be inducted into the hall of fame in their first year of eligibility. But when it's all said and done nobobys going to care about how many rings are on their respective fingers. Jim Kelly, Dan Marino and Warren Moon are some of the best QB's I've ever seen play and guess what they have ZERO superbowl rings combined. So does that mean they got there because of 'fantasy numbers'....I think not!