Norv Turner: would u want him for OC?

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CATCH17;3025360 said:
Anyone think Mike Nolan maybe deserves another chance as a head coach?

Let's see....he drafted Alex Smith, and his team showed almost no improvement until he left.

Nope. Some guys aren't suited to be head coaches. Maybe if they still flat out sucked with Singletary we could say Nolan was just a victim of circumstance, but it looks like he just couldn't hack it.
 

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CATCH17;3025360 said:
Anyone think Mike Nolan maybe deserves another chance as a head coach?

I think he can revitalize his career with a good showing as a coordinator.If he does that he will get another chance in the next few years.

Craig
 

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I won't and can't stifle all the HC'ing talk but Jason Garrett will be the next HC for the Dallas Cowboys whether anyone else agrees or wants it.

I would have no problem at all with Norv as the OC and in fact think it's a great idea. I wouldn't want to go totally with a timing offense unless that fits the personnel here esp Romo. I think Romo is better rolling out and improvising than throwing in a timing based offense. JMO. But I think its a great idea to have some throws in the bag of tricks. Norv has a better feel for the flow of the game as some put it. I agree. And he knows how to run the football. I think he'd be a better OC than Jason esp for our OL.

I don't want Rivera here. There has to be a good 3-4 candidate out there although I'm just assuming. I don't follow things like that. There's enough candidates out there. I suspect Jack Del Rio will be available after this season and I'd love to have him here. He'd kick some butt and he's not afraid to play anyone or sit anyone.
 

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jobberone;3025405 said:
I won't and can't stifle all the HC'ing talk but Jason Garrett will be the next HC for the Dallas Cowboys whether anyone else agrees or wants it.

I would have no problem at all with Norv as the OC and in fact think it's a great idea. I wouldn't want to go totally with a timing offense unless that fits the personnel here esp Romo. I think Romo is better rolling out and improvising than throwing in a timing based offense. JMO. But I think its a great idea to have some throws in the bag of tricks. Norv has a better feel for the flow of the game as some put it. I agree. And he knows how to run the football. I think he'd be a better OC than Jason esp for our OL.

I don't want Rivera here. There has to be a good 3-4 candidate out there although I'm just assuming. I don't follow things like that. There's enough candidates out there. I suspect Jack Del Rio will be available after this season and I'd love to have him here. He'd kick some butt and he's not afraid to play anyone or sit anyone.


I could warm up to this.

Garrett - HC
Norv - AHC/OC
Del Rio - DC


I think the combo of Norv/Garrett could serve Garrett and the Cowboys well. Norv - a voice of reason if you will.
 

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skinsscalper;3025326 said:
We missed the boat on that one last year in an effort to save Brian Stewart's feelings. Capers would have been an excellent candidate.

I agree. Capers would have been a great choice but apparently Jerry Jones wanted to spare Stewart's (and also possibly Phillips') feelings. It was a lost opportunity if the idea has been all along to carry forth the line of succession with Garrett.

Garrett needs to have a quality defensive coordinator and Capers would have been a good fit. There will be some others likely available.

As far as Rivera goes, he's a 4-3 disciple through and through. He's doing the best he can with his limited experience in the 3-4, but I would rather pilfer an assistant from a staff that has actually had some success in the 3-4. That being said, I'm not sure who that guy is. So my attempt to convince you has fallen short, I suppose. :eek::

I am willing to listen, but the issue here is the 3-4. We are married to it as it appears Jones is convinced it is the way to go. That limits the options greatly in terms of who Garrett can surround himself with.
 

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CATCH17;3025360 said:
Anyone think Mike Nolan maybe deserves another chance as a head coach?

His ceiling is a DC. He got run out of SF on a rail.
 

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jobberone;3025405 said:
I won't and can't stifle all the HC'ing talk but Jason Garrett will be the next HC for the Dallas Cowboys whether anyone else agrees or wants it.

I would have no problem at all with Norv as the OC and in fact think it's a great idea. I wouldn't want to go totally with a timing offense unless that fits the personnel here esp Romo. I think Romo is better rolling out and improvising than throwing in a timing based offense. JMO. But I think its a great idea to have some throws in the bag of tricks. Norv has a better feel for the flow of the game as some put it. I agree. And he knows how to run the football. I think he'd be a better OC than Jason esp for our OL.

I don't want Rivera here. There has to be a good 3-4 candidate out there although I'm just assuming. I don't follow things like that. There's enough candidates out there. I suspect Jack Del Rio will be available after this season and I'd love to have him here. He'd kick some butt and he's not afraid to play anyone or sit anyone.

While I believe that Garrett will be the next head coach of this team,I do think that whoever replaces Wade should be allowed to hire their own staff.If that person were to bring in Turner I do think he would be an asset to have around.

Craig
 

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RS12;3025438 said:
His ceiling is a DC. He got run out of SF on a rail.

Right now, he along with Gregg Williams, is suddenly hot but the fact of the matter is, both were dismal head coaches. But I am sure they'll get another shot, much like Dick Jauron did in Buffalo.
 

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BraveHeartFan;3025064 said:
As an OC I'd take him in a heartbeat. He's a fine OC as he showed when he was here before and again just a couple of years ago with the Niners when he made Alex Smith actually look like he was a solid NFL QB in the making.

Norv could be my OC any day.
 

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jobberone;3025405 said:
I won't and can't stifle all the HC'ing talk but Jason Garrett will be the next HC for the Dallas Cowboys whether anyone else agrees or wants it.

I would have no problem at all with Norv as the OC and in fact think it's a great idea. I wouldn't want to go totally with a timing offense unless that fits the personnel here esp Romo. I think Romo is better rolling out and improvising than throwing in a timing based offense. JMO. But I think its a great idea to have some throws in the bag of tricks. Norv has a better feel for the flow of the game as some put it. I agree. And he knows how to run the football. I think he'd be a better OC than Jason esp for our OL.

I don't want Rivera here. There has to be a good 3-4 candidate out there although I'm just assuming. I don't follow things like that. There's enough candidates out there. I suspect Jack Del Rio will be available after this season and I'd love to have him here. He'd kick some butt and he's not afraid to play anyone or sit anyone.

If this team misses the playoffs or fails to win a play off game, wont happen, period. By the way isnt amazing that Rivera stock plummeted when Jamal Williams went down for the year and Merriman went off the juice.
 

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YoMick;3025412 said:
I could warm up to this.

Garrett - HC
Norv - AHC/OC
Del Rio - DC


I think the combo of Norv/Garrett could serve Garrett and the Cowboys well. Norv - a voice of reason if you will.

you know what, i dont like garrett but i think he would make a really good combo with norv as OC!! i could also warm up to this! and del rio would be good too, i like it!

Alexander;3025444 said:
Right now, he along with Gregg Williams, is suddenly hot but the fact of the matter is, both were dismal head coaches. But I am sure they'll get another shot, much like Dick Jauron did in Buffalo.


true, but sometimes it works out, look at belicheat, he was terrible with the browns now he is prob the best coach in the last 10 years
 

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WoodysGirl;3025355 said:
Are you saying SD offense is more talented than Dallas? Or vice-versa?

Not sure what you mean.

I'm saying SD's offense has more aggregate talent than Dallas (though it's close), yet are not performing as well to date.

I do agree that Garrett isn't perfect and could learn a few more things (sometimes I wonder if he was rushed along a bit too fast as a coach), but I'm not sure Turner is better.
 

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Didn't the Jags just get shut out by Seattle? The same team that could barely scrape up 3 pts this past weekend?

No to Del Rio, too.
 

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WoodysGirl;3025607 said:
Didn't the Jags just get shut out by Seattle? The same team that could barely scrape up 3 pts this past weekend?

No to Del Rio, too.

Well we're really scraping the bottom of the barrell here. Jerry failed on not getting Nolan or Rex. Who else is out there that is realistically an option?
 

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WoodysGirl;3025607 said:
Didn't the Jags just get shut out by Seattle? The same team that could barely scrape up 3 pts this past weekend?

No to Del Rio, too.

Yeah, but Mike Nolan among others show that being a so-so to lousy HC doesn't mean you can't be a good coordinator.

I still think Del Rio is a pretty good HC, though. He's won a lot with only pretty good talent over the years.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3025629 said:
Yeah, but Mike Nolan among others show that being a so-so to lousy HC doesn't mean you can't be a good coordinator.

I still think Del Rio is a pretty good HC, though. He's won a lot with only pretty good talent over the years.

You think he could work well with a 3-4? I know he likes being aggressive. I'm sure he could be pretty creative in it.
 
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