Norv would gain credibility by ousting TO

[Bleu Star]

Ok... let me entertain this dream thread for some LOL

Norv comes in and cuts TO...

We start the season 1-4...

we finish at 5-11....

How long did his credibility last in cutting TO? I guess it depends if that first win in 5 games came first.... LOL

GRON

 

[Coakleys Dad]

GRON

Already....?

 

[gazmc_06]

that is exactly why we wont cut T.O. or trade him - he was key to our offence and him and tony seem to know each other pretty well on the field and that is important between a QB and a WR. when T.O. gets back to full health i think he will lead the league again in TD receptions and his drop count will at least half cause he only dropped those passes because of his broken finger.

 

[Blue&Silver]

that is exactly why we wont cut T.O. or trade him - he was key to our offence and him and tony seem to know each other pretty well on the field and that is important between a QB and a WR. when T.O. gets back to full health i think he will lead the league again in TD receptions and his drop count will at least half cause he only dropped those passes because of his broken finger.

Remind me of our record in 2005 without the great Terrell Owens, and our record in 2006 with the Messiah, and supposedly a better QB in Romo?

This team goes as far as our O line takes us, not a spoiled receiver past his prime.

 

[superpunk]

among many cowboys fans and accross the league. Jerry would not be happy...but I think it would send a clear message that Norv is completely in control. I just hope Norv has someone he can get to fill that void. TO bonus is due on March 1st....so we should find out who is really running the show soon once Norv is announced as HC.

It would give him more cred with me.

Because nothing would make me MORE sure that he would be just as much of a failure here as everywhere else, and still was unable to handle players. As we all know, to be successful, if you see a challenge, you should have it whacked, or run in the opposite direction.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I will never understand why people think you need a dominant Wide Receiver to win a Super Bowl.

With the right coaching, play calling and proper adjustments, this offense could be deadly, with or without Terrell Owens.

If indeed Norv is our new HC, I have no doubt he could put a competitive offense on the field with or without Terrell Owens, given the other talent we have here.

- Mike G.

 

[austintodallas]

Gain credibility with who, you? Not with me.

Cutting TO = big mistake.

 

[TEK2000]

I hope Norv is NOT our new head coach. I'm tired of hearing about him already.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Let's see, .. I've got a WR that was in his first year with a new team, and in a new offense.

He suffers a hamstring pull, a broken finger, and a torn tendon in his finger.

Unfortunate, but he plays hurt through most of the year.

And he still manages to catch 85 balls, for 1200 yds and lead the league in TD catches with 13, .. one short of the franchise record.

So next year he will be healthy, he will have a year under his belt with this team, and a full year experience in the new offense.

I'm thinking he will be on the Cowboys next season no matter who the coach is.

Cut him ??? Ridiculous :laugh2:

 

[Coakleys Dad]

I hope Norv is NOT our new head coach. I'm tired of hearing about him already.

amen:crossed:

 

[JPM]

Jerry will get creditability by not hiring Norval.

 

[GlitzCowboy]

Let's get one thing straight- If Norv is hired it's because Jerry once again wants a puppet to control and not a Head Coach. This guy is not a leader and does not command respect from his players, but would make a great puppet for Jerry to pull strings on. And a move like that, outright cutting TO to save a few measely bucks, would be disasterous where everyone is concerned. Talk about an unnessacary, manic move, in a desparate attempt to take control. It'd make me ill.

The next coaches job is to come in here and continue with the devolopment of Romo, first and foremost. Getting rid of his favorite target is not a good way to start that off.

And as a fanbase whole, I don't think many would be very pleased about this kind of move, either. TO is lightning in a bottle...and that lightning is now in possession of the Cowboy faithful AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT! We have one of the fastest, shiniest cars on the road, and we want to keep it - how do some of you still not get this? It would take instant and furious winning to make us forget about a move like that.. only it would only be March and a LONG time to wait for that, if it ever came at all.

The best thing a coach can do when he is hired, is to come in here and work the draft and free agency like a man possessed, simply fine-tuning the machine that's already in place. Ripping the tires off and hoping we come across another suitible set before the season starts, just is not the way to gain trust from the team or the fans.

 

[DallasEast]

I will never understand why people think you need a dominant Wide Receiver to win a Super Bowl.

With the right coaching, play calling and proper adjustments, this offense could be deadly, with or without Terrell Owens.

If indeed Norv is our new HC, I have no doubt he could put a competitive offense on the field with or without Terrell Owens, given the other talent we have here.

No. You have it all wrong. If you subtract Owens from our offense, we're 100%, unequivocally, beyond a shadow of a doubt, indisputably, unquestionably and fundamentally screwed.

How the NFL functioned before Owens was drafted, I'll never know.

 

[Bleu Star]

No. You have it all wrong. If you subtract Owens from our offense, we're 100%, unequivocally, beyond a shadow of a doubt, indisputably, unquestionably and fundamentally screwed.

Minus the sarcasm you pretty much got it right. That is if you're right there along with the rest of us in believing we're not too far away from a Super Bowl. If you want to take one giant leap backwards go right ahead. I prefer to not leap with you. Thankfully Jerry perfers to stay on the ground too.

 

[peplaw06]

So next year he will be healthy, he will have a year under his belt with this team, and a full year experience in the new offense.

I'm assuming he's going to be learning a new offense this offseason, along with Romo. It may not be completely new, but it's not going to be a BP offense.

Oughta be interesting to see how Romo handles it to say the least.

 

[DallasEast]

Minus the sarcasm you pretty much got it right.

:laugh2: We're doomed! Doomed, I say! :laugh2:

That is if you're right there along with the rest of us in believing we're not too far away from a Super Bowl.

Back when I was a kid, I would allow myself to believe that my favorite team (Cowboys, Yankees, 76ers, etc.) were 'good' simply because they had 'so-and-so' on their roster.

Over the past thirty-odd years, I've become much more aware that certain players are not the sole component for success--especially since the current free agency/salary cap era began in the NFL in '94. I never allow myself to think that we're 'this far away' from a championship months before the opening kickoff.

Nope. Instead, I try to absorb every morsel of offseason moves info that I can. I try to see how players are adjusting and executing the schemes during preseason. I try to spot what coaches are doing well and what's not working for them. Etc., etc.

The regular season will be several games deep (if only that) before I tempt myself and say, "Hey! We're good enough to win it all". I'm a little more grounded than some. For example, I don't pray to the Lord each day and ask that Owens doesn't snub his toe on his way to the medicine cabinet.

If you want to take one giant leap backwards go right ahead.

If you want to solely believe that one offensive weapon separates this team from ultimate success, I'll have to hope that you won't fly off the deep end should Owens have another 'accidential overdose' or whatever he called it. However, if the Cowboys do happen to achieve greatness in 2007, it will do so if Owens is either on the field or off it. That's what 'very good' or 'great' teams do: they succeed in the face of adversity. If this team cannot make the necessary adjustments without Owens, whether it is because of injury, mental illness, etc., then it does not deserve to win a championship. IMO, no team (or its fans) should enter a season with the sole belief that their ultimate chance of success hinges on one player. This is pro football, not golf.

I prefer to not leap with you.

And I prefer not to waste a second of my time worrying about one, individual player when it is always about the team that ultimately matters every season. So, thanks.

Thankfully Jerry perfers to stay on the ground too.

Since Jones bought the team, there is one certainty everyone should know, but some don't (or don't wish to accept).

Jones is unpredictable. Just when you think you know the guy, he surprises you. Well... he surprises some of us, that is. :

 

[WV Cowboy]

: This is pro football, not golf.And I prefer not to waste a second of my time worrying about one, individual player when it is always about the team that ultimately matters every season. So, thanks.

I understand what you are saying, because you are right, it is a team sport, but there are also certain individual players that make such a big difference that they impact the game and they impact their teams chances to win the game.

If P Manning goes down, it changes everything for the Colts.

Same for T Brady and the Pats.

LT and the Chargers.

In our case, if we structure this whole off-season to groom T Romo and he goes down in the 2nd game, everything changes for the entire team.

Look how the injury to G Ellis impacted our defense and ultimately the entire team.

Owens is one of those players as well. If we don't have him we not only lose his production, but it impacts the opportunities for the other receivers, ... it also impacts the running game, it limits opportunities for the QB.

Teams scheme their defense based on where Owens lines up.

It's obvious that you don't like Owens, but if you dont' see what he brings to the table offensively for the Cowboys, then "the past thirty-odd years" have left you lacking in football knowledge.

 

[Bleu Star]

I understand what you are saying, because you are right, it is a team sport, but there are also certain individual players that make such a big difference that they impact the game and they impact their teams chances to win the game.

If P Manning goes down, it changes everything for the Colts.

Same for T Brady and the Pats.

LT and the Chargers.
In our case, if we structure this whole off-season to groom T Romo and he goes down in the 2nd game, everything changes for the entire team.

Look how the injury to G Ellis impacted our defense and ultimately the entire team.

Owens is one of those players as well. If we don't have him we not only lose his production, but it impacts the opportunities for the other receivers, ... it also impacts the running game, it limits opportunities for the QB. (I couldn't have said it better myself)

Teams scheme their defense based on where Owens lines up.

It's obvious that you don't like Owens, but if you dont' see what he brings to the table offensively for the Cowboys, then "the past thirty-odd years" have left you lacking in football knowledge.

Study this reply DallasEast.

 

[DallasEast]

I understand what you are saying, because you are right, it is a team sport, but there are also certain individual players that make such a big difference that they impact the game and they impact their teams chances to win the game.

If P Manning goes down, it changes everything for the Colts.

Same for T Brady and the Pats.

The players you've mentioned are quarterbacks. The discussion wasn't about Romo, it was about Owens.

LT and the Chargers.

Ditto. Tomlinson is a running back, in his prime no less and does not play the same position as Owens.

In our case, if we structure this whole off-season to groom T Romo and he goes down in the 2nd game, everything changes for the entire team.

But does everything automatically go to hell? When the Giants lost Simms in '90 and turned to Hostetler (sp?), did it end their season? And would you, in your estimation, consider Hostetler a starting quarterback or a career backup quarterback?

Look how the injury to G Ellis impacted our defense and ultimately the entire team.

If you're going to suggest that the team's defensive swoon in December should solely be upon Ellis's shoulders, more power to you because it wasn't.

Owens is one of those players as well.

I've never downplayed his abilities. Ever. Check the archives. This is a question of whether Owens absence from the offense will DOOM the team; or present a challenge for the coaches and players to compensate for his loss and succeed without him. You say it's impossible and I do not agree.

If we don't have him we not only lose his production, but it impacts the opportunities for the other receivers, ... it also impacts the running game, it limits opportunities for the QB.

True enough. And unless the coaches and other players do not adjust the offense for that void, we are doomed. But why should the rest of the team (and Owens' fans) surrender the season because Owens can't play? There is too much parity in this era of pro football for anyone to believe that they cannot overcome the odds of winning a championship IF the REST of the roster is talented AND they simply play sound football.

Teams scheme their defense based on where Owens lines up.

Yep, and if he wasn't there, they would adjust their scheme to take away Glenn. So, do the coaches and players (some of whom MAY NOT BE on LAST season's roster) just throw up their hands and say, "Damn, we're you-know-what!". I don't think so. This is football, not Parcheesi.

It's obvious that you don't like Owens, but if you dont' see what he brings to the table offensively for the Cowboys, then "the past thirty-odd years" have left you lacking in football knowledge.

Nope, you're incorrect.

I see a premier wide receiver with a ten-cent head whose absence would be a huge blow to the offense, but it is also a void which could be overcome with solid coaching and execution from his teammates... SOME of whom may be sitting on a draft board or another team at this very moment.

On the other hand, you see Owens as the key to the Super Bowl. And without him...



...well, you get the picture.

 

[DallasEast]

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