Not enough film study per Broaddus

Little Jr

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Playing the game, especially at the QB position does in fact mean a lot.
You are privy to every aspect of the offensive game plan and it's execution.
You certainly know the weekly routine including gow much game film is being watched. .

Garrett's issues have been from the other end.
In game management.
Managing his assts and his QB on the field.
Those are things where head coaching experience is directly related and necessary.

There are tons of guys with TONS of coaching experience who've failed miserably as the head guy.
And virtually every coach who has ever won a SB has actually PLAYED the game

Yeah you made my point for me. All the important things as hc you don't learn from playing 15 years in the league. Like game mgt. Situational football. Managing your coaches. Delegating coaching. A host of other things a hc has to do that a player doesn't.
 

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Tons of smart people cant teach a lick, tons of people who have done things cant convey to others their experiences. Dont see why this is hard to grasp, the rumblings from around the organization and the results speak for themsslves.
 

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Maybe you should think about what your post. Plnaying has nothing to do with coaching. 15 years as a player isn't a qualification to become a hc.

He keeps posting that asinine argument in various threads defending his lame duck coach.
 
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Film study? Film study was not their problem last year,,, lack of youthful talent, proper personnel, and a brand new defensive scheme was their problem.
 

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I couldn't disagree with this more. Jason Garrett was a marginal talent in terms of playing in the NFL. A guy like that has to rely on the mental aspect of the game to make it. So I'm betting he nobody knows the value of film study more than a guy like him.

This is why I liked his potential as a coach and being saddled with Jerry Jones isn't going to make me think of any differently about him. I will not blame him for the sins of the owner like so many fans like to do. They'll have the same complaints of his successor, as they did with the guy Garrett succeeded.

Why not blame him? He turned down jobs in Atlanta and Baltimore while serving as the OC. He knew what he was getting in to. I don't think he would have been successful at either of those stops, either, but that is pure speculation.
 

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I am sure he can try. But if the players know he lacks the mandate to cut them if they don't perform, it is pretty much just for show.

Just another advantage of having our special arrangement where the GM is also the owner.

Right. I don't believe he has that kind of autonomy and a head coach needs it to do his job.

The culture changed when Parcells arrived and went right back to the failed ways of the past when he left. Much to the relief of the lunatic owner.
 

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Why not blame him? He turned down jobs in Atlanta and Baltimore while serving as the OC. He knew what he was getting in to. I don't think he would have been successful at either of those stops, either, but that is pure speculation.

I can't say you're wrong. He may have flopped there. All I'm saying is I can't judge him here. I didn't judge Wade Phillips here. Had this been his first head coaching gig I still wouldn't have much of an opinion one way or the other on whether he can do the job.
 

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Did Broadus identify the player? We are all assuming somebody we don't even know made that accusation and it is true. I believe Broadus, but I really question the validity of this player. Maybe he had his own agenda and made such a comment. It is also hard to believe that a man like Garrett would not place a premium on film study.
If it is true, then it sems likely that it would be a player that was new to the Cowboys and was a veteran.

Maybe Will Allen or Justin Durant.
 

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If it is true, then it sems likely that it would be a player that was new to the Cowboys and was a veteran.

Maybe Will Allen or Justin Durant.

Will Allen would be my best guess. He also said this team is "different then any team he's been on".
 

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Lol so film study isn't important? Lol that's what you are saying?

I honestly have no idea. Are you holding some kind of report that conclusively links film study to winning that is non-anecdotal? If so, I think you should reveal that report.

I do know that if all it took to win in the NFL was "film study" then I would be in the NFL right now.
 

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Why not blame him? He turned down jobs in Atlanta and Baltimore while serving as the OC. He knew what he was getting in to.

Correct. He knew exactly what he was getting into.

He also has sat there and taken being publicly embarrassed by being called a trainee head coach.

I have zero sympathy for him and honestly, not a lot of respect either.
 

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I honestly have no idea. Are you holding some kind of report that conclusively links film study to winning that is non-anecdotal? If so, I think you should reveal that report.

I do know that if all it took to win in the NFL was "film study" then I would be in the NFL right now.


Lmao. Your are the 1stt person I've ever seen make the argument that film study isn't important. Which shows me your football iq isn't worth my time getting into a discussion with you about it.
 

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Lmao. Your are the 1stt person I've ever seen make the argument that film study isn't important. Which shows me your football iq isn't worth my time getting into a discussion with you about it.

I do not think there is any evidence that shows there is any correlation of anything to winning games in the NFL. In fact, I think it is all due to luck.
 

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Lmao. Your are the 1stt person I've ever seen make the argument that film study isn't important. Which shows me your football iq isn't worth my time getting into a discussion with you about it.

And like I said, if it was that important you could easily prove it. But you can't, so go sit back down on the couch with your fellow know-nothings like Alexander. And I would re-read your own horribly-spelled, horribly-phrased posts before tossing out any IQ accusations. What a laugh.
 

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And like I said, if it was that important you could easily prove it. But you can't, so go sit back down on the couch with your fellow know-nothings like Alexander. And I would re-read your own horribly-spelled, horribly-phrased posts before tossing out any IQ accusations. What a laugh.

There is no study that says practice makes you better either, I just thought that everyone knew that.
 

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There is no study that says practice makes you better either, I just thought that everyone knew that.

There are tons of great, championship players in all sports who have admitted they never practiced a lick, never watched a second of film. But that isn't what they are trying to twist this argument into. This is about our dim-witted fan base thinking that there is a "formula" for winning, that if only we follow the steps we will win, and how come our coach can't understand that? If only Jeff Heath had watched that film, then he would be able to jump the three extra feet he needed to stop Megatron. It takes a truly clueless fan to watch all 16 games and come away thinking that we have a "film" problem, but that's how special our fan base is.
 

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No, it's not but keep on fantasizing. There isn't even the slightest shred of evidence that film study leads to winning anyway so it's a dumb argument. Give me a 0 wonderlic mega-talent any day over our UDFA/couch film room wannabes.

Eh, the Seahawks secondary said after the Super Bowl that film study enabled them to crack the code of Peyton Manning's hand signals, so they knew where to be in coverage each time.
 

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Eh, the Seahawks secondary said after the Super Bowl that film study enabled them to crack the code of Peyton Manning's hand signals, so they knew where to be in coverage each time.

So they didn't study any film of Carson Palmer I guess. Them saying that is just typical "pickle juice" cause and effect.
 
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