Not enough film study per Broaddus

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Common. Sense should tell you 5.5 years of asst coaching exp isn't enough. Common sense should tell you 15 yrs of playing doesn't qualify you for a hc. Even when combine with 5.5 years of coaching exp. Go ahead and give me them examples then give me their actual coaching resume with it. Let's compare.

Common sense?

'Common sense' should tell you that you need to do better than a buzzword and platitude as the foundation of your argument.

Prima facia, Ozzie Newsome as did another NFL club offered Garrett a HC job after 5 years. That indicates that multiple NFL clubs considered him to be qualified. NFL executive decisions are the standard not what knowledge you think is 'common.'

Quite frankly the common man shows poor aptitude all too often.

 

[Bullflop]

If what Broaddus and his informant says is true, then this team may very well continue to underachieve in the upcoming season. If that happens, it's entirely possible Coach Garrett, his staff and the team will fail to reach the playoffs once again. At some point whether it's this year or next, Jerry will be forced to make necessary changes to correct the situation. That's the only proof we're likely to see as to whether or not this report is factual.

 

[Little Jr]

Common sense?

'Common sense' should tell you that you need to do better than a buzzword and platitude as the foundation of your argument.

Prima facia, Ozzie Newsome as did another NFL club offered Garrett a HC job after 5 years. That indicates that multiple NFL clubs considered him to be qualified. NFL executive decisions are the standard not what knowledge you think is 'common.'

Quite frankly the common man shows poor aptitude all too often.

Just because the ravens were willing to make the same mistake really doesn't prove anything. Even the best orginizations make mistakes.

 

[Little Jr]

So everyone in the league does it... why? For fun?

Lol I was being sarcastic. That's what he had said in a earlier post.

 

[Hoofbite]

If what Broaddus and his informant says is true, then this team may very well continue to underachieve in the upcoming season. If that happens, it's entirely possible Coach Garrett, his staff and the team will fail to reach the playoffs once again. At some point whether it's this year or next, Jerry will be forced to make necessary changes to correct the situation. That's the only proof we're likely to see as to whether or not this report is factual.

I may have missed the followups but seems like Church kind of pointed to it being true in the link back on page 2.

I honestly can't imagine the team not studying but if Broaddus said he was told that either he's just fabricating things about the team that pays him or Dallas likely doesn't study as much as one player feels they should.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Just because the ravens were willing to make the same mistake really doesn't prove anything. Even the best orginizations make mistakes.

You are ignoring the point. Multiple NFL teams have offered Garrett HC jobs including one which 'common sense' should indicate is a top well regarded NFL executive.

You can make up bs paradigms like 'qualified' with all the arbitrary, subjective standards that go with it and pretend that you have any leg to stand on but those organizations do have legs and speak to the point.

Jason Garrett may very well never be better than a .500 coach. He may very well end up much worse but this notion that he had no business or wasn't 'qualified' for being here in the first place is asinine.

 

[CyberB0b]

You are ignoring the point. Multiple NFL teams have offered Garrett HC jobs including one which 'common sense' should indicate is a top well regarded NFL executive.

You can make up bs paradigms like 'qualified' with all the arbitrary, subjective standards that go with it and pretend that you have any leg to stand on but those organizations do have legs and speak to the point.

Jason Garrett may very well never be better than a .500 coach. He may very well end up much worse but this notion that he had no business or wasn't 'qualified' for being here in the first place is asinine.

It is pretty clear that his lack of experience shows up in games.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It is pretty clear that his lack of experience shows up in games.

Where would you rank Garrett in performance for NFL coaches over the past few years?

 

[wileedog]

Maybe they should try something else. A 1 in 32 success rate is pretty bad. 20 teams out of 32 were so bad, they couldn't even get into the playoffs. Not a solid endorsement for "film study".

Are you so logically challenged that you don't understand that even if every team was absolutely awesome and coached to absolute perfection there is still only 12 who can make the playoffs, and one who can win?

I look forward to more comments from you about my couch and other inanity.

 

[wileedog]

Lol I was being sarcastic. That's what he had said in a earlier post.

My apologies sir. Super_K's dizzying intellect in this thread threw off my sarcasm meter.

 

[Little Jr]

You are ignoring the point. Multiple NFL teams have offered Garrett HC jobs including one which 'common sense' should indicate is a top well regarded NFL executive.

You can make up bs paradigms like 'qualified' with all the arbitrary, subjective standards that go with it and pretend that you have any leg to stand on but those organizations do have legs and speak to the point.

Jason Garrett may very well never be better than a .500 coach. He may very well end up much worse but this notion that he had no business or wasn't 'qualified' for being here in the first place is asinine.

Ravens did. No other. Atl had a 2nd interview with him and then he withdrew from being a canidate. Like I said ravens made a mistake and was lucky and didn't have to pay for it. Every orginization makes them. He was a hot name for 1 year after thed 07 season which his offense performed great. He really wasn't much of a hot up and coming coach after that year. He won't be getting any hc gigs if he's fired from dallas for quite sometime. I believe what he's done over the past 3 years shows he wasn't ready. Hell our drunk owner even says he's a hc in training.

 

[CyberB0b]

Where would you rank Garrett in performance for NFL coaches over the past few years?

It's hard to say, considering the GM, but probably in the 18-20 range.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's hard to say, considering the GM, but probably in the 18-20 range.

He is a .500 coach with a GM that I presume you think handicaps him. You have him ranked 2 to 4 places below average.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Ravens did. No other. Atl had a 2nd interview with him and then he withdrew from being a canidate. Like I said ravens made a mistake and was lucky and didn't have to pay for it. Every orginization makes them. He was a hot name for 1 year after thed 07 season which his offense performed great. He really wasn't much of a hot up and coming coach after that year. He won't be getting any hc gigs if he's fired from dallas for quite sometime. I believe what he's done over the past 3 years shows he wasn't ready. Hell our drunk owner even says he's a hc in training.

Falcons offered him the job as well. 3 or 4 other teams interviewed him as well.

You are making up stories about how what type of commodity he is now or how he is viewed by other NFL clubs. You have no basis for any of this. You form your opinions based on story time. I get it.

He's a couple of games over .500 after 3.5 seasons. That is 16th amongst active coaches and 80th out of history's 161.

 

[CyberB0b]

He is a .500 coach with a GM that I presume you think handicaps him. You have him ranked 2 to 4 places below average.

Well, we don't know who is doing all the coordinator shuffling.

 

[jobberone]

Just because the ravens were willing to make the same mistake really doesn't prove anything. Even the best orginizations make mistakes.

His counterpoint and much of the debate surrounds Garrett's qualifications. It is prima facia evidence, esp coming for a renowned GM like Ozzie Newsome, Garrett is qualified to be a HC if two other clubs asked him to be HC and he turned them down and stayed here to become HC. He's qualified.

Being qualified is not predictive of success. I still have a racing license which qualifies me to race but I no longer have the ability to win at any level. My guess is Jason will not be successful here. He just keeps getting bad cards. Hope I'm wrong. And I'm not qualified to predict that. I'm just free to give out free opinions.

 

[jobberone]

Well, we don't know who is doing all the coordinator shuffling.

No, you don't know who is doing it. Many of us share the opinion Garrett is doing it. That is a standard of industry that head coaches pick their own staffs. I'm sure Jerry has plenty of questions and occasional suggestions.

I'm not a fan of Jerry the GM but it is a mistake to underestimate his abilities to operate as a GM given his years of experience in a background of making himself fortunes in three separate industries and a net worth of close to 3 billion dollars.

Now if you want to argue Jerry is a mediocre GM who should have long ago been fired from his position then I got your back.

 

[rwalters31]

He said on talkin cowboys a week or so ago that a player after the saints game said we are the worst film study team he has been a part of. Here is my question to you. In all seriousness, do you believe, that Garrett believes, he will just be able to out smart the other coach so he doesn't put an emphasis on film? It seems silly that he would believe that because book smarts don't translate to football smarts, but it's all I can think of. There is no reason to not study film. The only guys you hear about constantly studying are Lee and Witten and I just want to get your opinion on why Garrett isn't emphasizing it.

You have to have a very good team to make that kind of statement. The 1990's Cowboys had the team that said you need to stop me because I'm good. The 2014 team says I suck therefore I need to scheme, deceive, redirect, and change plays. This requires that you know all the idiosyncrasies of the team and players. This requires studying films.

 

[burmafrd]

You are ignoring the point. Multiple NFL teams have offered Garrett HC jobs including one which 'common sense' should indicate is a top well regarded NFL executive.

You can make up bs paradigms like 'qualified' with all the arbitrary, subjective standards that go with it and pretend that you have any leg to stand on but those organizations do have legs and speak to the point.

Jason Garrett may very well never be better than a .500 coach. He may very well end up much worse but this notion that he had no business or wasn't 'qualified' for being here in the first place is asinine.

show me where he was OFFERED a HC job. He got interviews that is all.

 

[Hostile]

how about this: show me a former backup QB that ever coached a SB winning team. Just as valid as yours and idgets bleating

Tom Flores, coached two of them in fact. Mike Holmgren is another. How about Sean Peyton? Mike Shanahan?