NYG, Phil &Wash had better FA than Dallas

[john van brocklin]

1) I am still amazing a team that was 12 million over the cap (Eagles) were able to land player who lead all S with interceptions in 2020. I have to believe there was relationship with Smith agent and Eagles because Dallas has been looking for turnover S for about 25 years (Darren Woodson had 12 ints from '04-'06).
2) Golladay is dynamic and has potential to be impact player for them. Impact players changes the trajectory of a team and this one signing puts Giants into conversation of being a team who could make noise.
3) Washington Defense is already best in division and they go ahead and sign the #1 rated CB in FA. Then add Fitzpatrick who is unpredictable and crazy enough to put together a season that puts Washington in running for division.

Now we come to Cowboys. Team that just invested their well being and "all-chips in" regardless if they want to be in that position or not by signing Dak to monster contract. Dak now makes 4 times as much as any other QB in the division - so their window is NOW. To show fans how committed they are to winning championship now they added several players we had to google because we never heard about them. Neal would be lone exception but is he SS or LB? If we can't say which position he is its possible he isn't good at either position. Again, when your team is all-in why not be the team who signs the leading interception S in league for measly $5 mill year?? Dallas couldn't beat Jacksonville offer of 7th round pick for Malcom Brown?? The Jones continue to build their case of lacking self awareness and it should surprise nobody if we are revisiting these issues when we watch other teams play deep into playoffs.

Rinse and repeat, been this way for years.
Buy a rudder for this team, because it lacks direction

 

[Ekspozed]

Our teams were all pretty much even last year
All of the teams lost their qb during parts of the season.
Every team has found starters in this offseasons to upgrade their teams even before draft.

We get Dak back and some online yes, but, we have signed backups only while losing a starting CB.
We are forcing yourself to draft cb with our first pick.

We are losing this offseason thus far.

 

[cowboygo]

The only problem with this is every other team is “improving” as well, at least most are. We get veterans on the D line, Giants young line gets better (doubtful but they could) plus they get Barkley back. We get a corner in the draft, they got Golladay.

You get the point, adding potential wins with our upgrades would be great if we were playing the same teams as last year but we’re not, they are all getting injured players back, acquiring FA’s and will be drafting as well.

So whats your prediction against the division?

 

[cowboygo]

I get that, but they weren't any good with Dak either, and this defense hasn't gotten any better.

To be honest, it doesn’t take much for the defense to be better. They were atrocious.

 

[Proof]

How does that represent an improvement over baseline? That's the ONLY thing that matters here.

Because our baseline is much higher than there’s w/ ceedee and a healthy* line. And re-signing dak allows us to see it

 

[Proof]

This was an issue for me. There are some teams that have no problem trading away late picks for decent, proven players and we aren’t one of them. It sucks, especially given the need.

Considering we win the comp olympics every year, I don’t see the issue with giving up later picks.

we did it for Quinn. It’s not like all offers are done in a room with 32 team reps and every deal that’s completed means it was directly passed over by every other team

 

[aria]

So whats your prediction against the division?

I had us then Washington as front runners but if Jones gets his act together and their O line becomes at least average (both BIG ifs) then I would put the Giants and us neck and neck with Washington a close second.

Philthy 2-0
Washington 1-1
NY 1-1

I’m fully aware I could be 100% wrong, just a guess.

 

[cowboygo]

I had us then Washington as front runners but if Jones gets his act together and their O line becomes at least average (both BIG ifs) then I would put the Giants and us neck and neck with Washington a close second.

Philthy 2-0
Washington 1-1
NY 1-1

I’m fully aware I could be 100% wrong, just a guess.

I have 4-2 as well. Just can’t see us getting swept.

 

[Jipper]

I had us then Washington as front runners but if Jones gets his act together and their O line becomes at least average (both BIG ifs) then I would put the Giants and us neck and neck with Washington a close second.

Philthy 2-0
Washington 1-1
NY 1-1

I’m fully aware I could be 100% wrong, just a guess.

i worry very much about Washington and their defense...if they can get the qb play out of fitz then they are going to be very tough

 

[cowboygo]

Because our baseline is much higher than there’s w/ ceedee and a healthy* line. And re-signing dak allows us to see it

Bingo. Now thats the right way to see it.

 

[cowboygo]

i worry very much about Washington and their defense...if they can get the qb play out of fitz then they are going to be very tough

He’ll be streaky for sure. As long as we remain in shootouts, Fitz is prone to making a mistake.

 

[AbeBeta]

1) I am still amazing a team that was 12 million over the cap (Eagles) were able to land player who lead all S with interceptions in 2020. I have to believe there was relationship with Smith agent and Eagles because Dallas has been looking for turnover S for about 25 years (Darren Woodson had 12 ints from '04-'06).
2) Golladay is dynamic and has potential to be impact player for them. Impact players changes the trajectory of a team and this one signing puts Giants into conversation of being a team who could make noise.
3) Washington Defense is already best in division and they go ahead and sign the #1 rated CB in FA. Then add Fitzpatrick who is unpredictable and crazy enough to put together a season that puts Washington in running for division.

Now we come to Cowboys. Team that just invested their well being and "all-chips in" regardless if they want to be in that position or not by signing Dak to monster contract. Dak now makes 4 times as much as any other QB in the division - so their window is NOW. To show fans how committed they are to winning championship now they added several players we had to google because we never heard about them. Neal would be lone exception but is he SS or LB? If we can't say which position he is its possible he isn't good at either position. Again, when your team is all-in why not be the team who signs the leading interception S in league for measly $5 mill year?? Dallas couldn't beat Jacksonville offer of 7th round pick for Malcom Brown?? The Jones continue to build their case of lacking self awareness and it should surprise nobody if we are revisiting these issues when we watch other teams play deep into playoffs.

Golliday is now making 2 mill less than Cooper per year. People here bemoan Amari's deal but ignore that he was a 1k yard receiver 1 and pro bowler four times in five years before he got that deal. Golliday? 1 pro bowl and 2 1k seasons.

That's a Sammy Watkins special right there. Yet people are so into shiny expensive signings ....

 

[cowboygo]

Golliday is now making 2 mill less than Cooper per year. People here bemoan Amari's deal but ignore that he was a 1k yard receiver 1 and pro bowler four times in five years before he got that deal. Golliday? 1 pro bowl and 2 1k seasons.

That's a Sammy Watkins special right there. Yet people are so into shiny expensive signings ....

And to further your point. One plays through injuries, the other sits on the sideline. Availability is the best ability.

 

[cowboyec]

i dont see how washington got better at qb.
id rather have alex smith.

the eagles seem unsure...lurie says build around hurts yet now you hear they may draft a qb....that seems unsettled to me.

we have the best qb in the division.
getting Tyron,La'el and Zack back from injury are additions.

no reason...barring injury....that we can't win this division over the 3 eastern tyrannical dynasties in ny,philly and unscored upon washington.

 

[aria]

i worry very much about Washington and their defense...if they can get the qb play out of fitz then they are going to be very tough

Yep and the Giants offense could potentially take huge strides forward, as I said, that all depends on Jones and the O line. They also lost Tomlinson (have good depth there though) and still have no edge but if they pick up Adoree Jackson then their secondary will be much better than last year and they were close to a top 10 defense.

Between Washington and NY it could be close.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

1) I am still amazing a team that was 12 million over the cap (Eagles) were able to land player who lead all S with interceptions in 2020. I have to believe there was relationship with Smith agent and Eagles because Dallas has been looking for turnover S for about 25 years (Darren Woodson had 12 ints from '04-'06).
2) Golladay is dynamic and has potential to be impact player for them. Impact players changes the trajectory of a team and this one signing puts Giants into conversation of being a team who could make noise.
3) Washington Defense is already best in division and they go ahead and sign the #1 rated CB in FA. Then add Fitzpatrick who is unpredictable and crazy enough to put together a season that puts Washington in running for division.

Now we come to Cowboys. Team that just invested their well being and "all-chips in" regardless if they want to be in that position or not by signing Dak to monster contract. Dak now makes 4 times as much as any other QB in the division - so their window is NOW. To show fans how committed they are to winning championship now they added several players we had to google because we never heard about them. Neal would be lone exception but is he SS or LB? If we can't say which position he is its possible he isn't good at either position. Again, when your team is all-in why not be the team who signs the leading interception S in league for measly $5 mill year?? Dallas couldn't beat Jacksonville offer of 7th round pick for Malcom Brown?? The Jones continue to build their case of lacking self awareness and it should surprise nobody if we are revisiting these issues when we watch other teams play deep into playoffs.

I actually disagree with this. I think the last few signings (Urban and Neal) have been excellent signings. Golliday is a decent WR, but the Giants problems run much deeper than that. If we can continue to build our defence up, I don't think Fitzpatrick is going to be a problem. He's very inconsistent. One week, he looks like Joe Montana. The next week, he looks like Johnny Manziel. I don't fear him. As for Philly, well, they're pretty much screwed anyway imo. SO, I'm not worried about them either. The S they got isn't going to put them over the top or anything. As for us, Urban is an excellent run stopper, Neal has the tools to be a solid LB for us, and Basham is a solid pass rusher. We may not have gotten the biggest names, but the players we got are quality players overall. I will say I don't like that we missed on Malcolm Brown given our 1T needs, however, there are excellent 1Ts loaded in the draft. If we can get McNeil, Slayton, or Shelvin (for example), we'll be in excellent shape.

 

[Proof]

Golliday is now making 2 mill less than Cooper per year. People here bemoan Amari's deal but ignore that he was a 1k yard receiver 1 and pro bowler four times in five years before he got that deal. Golliday? 1 pro bowl and 2 1k seasons.

That's a Sammy Watkins special right there. Yet people are so into shiny expensive signings ....

To be fair though, it’s a cheaper, shorter deal a year later. Amari >>> though.

 

[CouchCoach]

How do you know that? This reminds me of The Dream Team. Many just wanted to go ahead and fit them for rings.

This is like a bud of mine started dating this woman because of what he'd heard she'd done for her old boyfriend. I told him "just because she did that for him doesn't mean she's going to do that for you".

 

[warroom]

I'm sorry but... How is it that two teams that got rid of #1 QB draft picks won the off season?

The Eagles are charged with a $33.8M hit for a player no longer on team
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...p-hit-in-nfl-history-as-result-of-colts-deal/

"$8.5 million to be exact."
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/...ll-on-the-hook-to-pay-dwayne-haskins/2552013/

The Jones overpaid for Dak. So what? They are bad GMs because that are paying for their guy when two of our rivals are paying for someone eases?

1) I am still amazing a team that was 12 million over the cap (Eagles) were able to land player who lead all S with interceptions in 2020. I have to believe there was relationship with Smith agent and Eagles because Dallas has been looking for turnover S for about 25 years (Darren Woodson had 12 ints from '04-'06).
2) Golladay is dynamic and has potential to be impact player for them. Impact players changes the trajectory of a team and this one signing puts Giants into conversation of being a team who could make noise.
3) Washington Defense is already best in division and they go ahead and sign the #1 rated CB in FA. Then add Fitzpatrick who is unpredictable and crazy enough to put together a season that puts Washington in running for division.

Now we come to Cowboys. Team that just invested their well being and "all-chips in" regardless if they want to be in that position or not by signing Dak to monster contract. Dak now makes 4 times as much as any other QB in the division - so their window is NOW. To show fans how committed they are to winning championship now they added several players we had to google because we never heard about them. Neal would be lone exception but is he SS or LB? If we can't say which position he is its possible he isn't good at either position. Again, when your team is all-in why not be the team who signs the leading interception S in league for measly $5 mill year?? Dallas couldn't beat Jacksonville offer of 7th round pick for Malcom Brown?? The Jones continue to build their case of lacking self awareness and it should surprise nobody if we are revisiting these issues when we watch other teams play deep into playoffs.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

The Commanders worry me, but the other two? Not really. Every team has concerns, and this time of year is always mostly speculative. Besides, no matter what Dallas does, there are ALWAYS threads crying about how every future opponent has done so much more to improve themselves.

Our defense in 2020 was what, 31st? 30th? Just by changing DC we SHOULD be a few wins better. We’ve added veteran depth on the DL, a starting safety, and will probably add 1or 2 difference makers from the remainder of FA and then the draft. There’s no reason not to think we could be a 9 or even 10 win team from that, IF we can have a healthier year. Add an offense with a freshly signed QB, a rejuvenated OL, and the return of our TE1, and why can’t we believe that could another add 1-3 wins?

My overly optimistic “rah rah” status says my way-too-early, predraft prediction is 11wins. Or more.

Additionally, no NFCE team has won the division in back to back years since the Eagles in the 2003-2004 seasons. So, I think that should help us too. Additionally, our team has a tendency to be awful one season, and look like a Super Bowl contender the following year. THe addition of a new DC will boost us too because teams won't know what to look for with us initially.