Obviously Romo & agent are playing big time hard ball

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Wood;5020051 said:
I still don't know why everyone thinks Romo needs to be extended. Let him play out his contract and then franchise him after that if you absolutely need too. Dallas should be looking to replace him anyway and next year looks like great year to do that in draft.

Have you looked at the cost of franchising him? The FO would have a difficult time affording that with its financial obligations over the next few seasons.

I've heard it would run 18-24 mil$ per season to slap a franchise on him.
 

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How much $$$ is Romo making from the apparel Starter? Romo had his kid in baby starter clothes in the first picture they took I believe & he is always wearing that crap with the logo showing.. You'd think they pay him a butt load of cash just for that, but who knows.
 

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UncFelix28;5020081 said:
Wrong, they are under the cap now after cutting Connor & restructuring Scandrick/Ratliff/Bernadeau contracts'. To get all the draft picks signed & a couple low-end FA's they will cut Free after June 1st. It is time to take 1 more shot with this core in 2013-14 & if it doesn't work out, Garrett will be gone-& Ware,Ratliff,Austin,Witten should be traded for whatever you can get & package those picks in a deal to move up and draft a hopeful franchise QB if Romo can't get the job done.. They may strike a deal with Romo in the next 24 hours or so, just a silly thread to bs.

That's what I'm thinking too. I expect us to be stagnant in FA, we'll use the draft to try and reinforce some of our weak points and cross our fingers that we can stay healthy... but for the most part we're gonna get the band back together and give it one last go. Garrett's entering a win or get out season, and many of the vets should be in the same boat. At some point you have to prove you can get over the hump, if they fall flat again it's time to push the reset button and build around the last 3 drafts.

That's what franchises do, when a team hasn't had a winning season in over 3 years you need to re-evaluate what you're doing... and it starts with the HC and the veterans.

But with that said, I hope they can get over that hump.
 

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Cowboy_Shawn;5020093 said:
I'm with you. If this core group can't make a run this year it's time for a full reboot.

I am really confused about what this "Full Reboot" even means. This is far from the first time I've seen it. Does anyone realize this team actually has a good deal of young talent and players in their prime? Really, aside from Romo, Ware, and Witten.

Bruce Carter, Dez Bryant, Sean Lee, Morris Claiborne, Brandon Carr, Dez Bryant, Tyron Smith, Demarco Murray, James Hanna, Barry Church.. This is just off the top of my head of some young guys who are going to be good players. Also I think we can expect that between Sterling Moore, Costa, Bernardeu, Danny Coale, Matt Johnson, Tyrone Crawford, etc at least one of these guys will turn out to be a guy who we can appreciate.

I understand wanting to get a young QB in here in a year or two and "Rebooting" a couple positions but I hope no one actually wants to go through a full rebuild when we have a lot of young pieces in place as it is.

We play in the toughest division in football by far.. If going 8-8 and being one game out of the playoffs with a core group of young players with a few aging players makes you think we need to undergo a "Reboot" I don't think you are being very logical. This team was also extremely injury plagued. If we manage to have a good draft this year I think we are already going through somewhat of a rebuild in terms of starting to focus this team around the young talent.
 

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Gemini Dolly;5020095 said:
Its possible Romo just wants to see how FA and draft goes and what moves the Boys make before signing.

There wont be many moves if he doesnt sign an extension thanks to his current base and Spencers franchise tag.
 

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If he wants Flacco money, then I draft a QB and tell him he has one more year as a Cowboy to convince some other team to give it to him. Results are what earn that money, not personal stats alone. I'd get my last year out of him and wish him good luck.
 

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03EBZ06;5020041 said:
Funny that nothing is being said by either party and yet, you are concluding Romo and his agent is playing hard ball? Where are you getting this from? How do you know if Jones are low balling him or not?

Fact is we have no damn idea what is going on with this contract negotiation.
You are right, we have no idea what's going on in this negotiation. But, if you look at Jerry's history, it's overpaying players he really likes, not low balling them.
 

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Cowboys22;5020146 said:
If he wants Flacco money, then I draft a QB and tell him he has one more year as a Cowboy to convince some other team to give it to him. Results are what earn that money, not personal stats alone. I'd get my last year out of him and wish him good luck.
Where did you get that he might want Flacco money?
 

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I would absolutely trade Romo to the Cardinals for two #1's and a #2 (and they could absolutely get that). Yes, he is a franchise quarterback, but this team is going to choke to death if doesn't build get him to something significantly cap friendly for the next few years.

I would draft Warmack (even trade down from Arizona's #7), Richardson, Cyprien, Terron Armstead and the best available QB in the 3rd.

Then I'd ride into 2013 with a dominant defense, young but promising offensive line and try and "Trent Dilfer" a season with Kyle Orton.

Then, with two #1's in tow in a killer QB 2014 Draft, I'd go after the best QB there is. And, without Romo's huge contract there is room to re-sign Bryant, Carter, Lee, etc.
 

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SDCowboy85;5020061 said:
I still think there's a very real chance Romo doesn't wants to resign with the team.
Absolutely.

I know there are the arguments about wanting the security of a long term deal and whatnot...but I can't think of one good reason why he wouldn't take his 16.5 mill this year and get $100 mil somewhere else after this year.
 

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COWBOYSNUM1;5020153 said:
You are right, we have no idea what's going on in this negotiation. But, if you look at Jerry's history, it's overpaying players he really likes, not low balling them.

Columnist Rick Gosselin held a chat on Monday. Here are some highlights.

Do you think there is any chance Romo doesn't re-sign with the cowboys this year? Would they actually consider letting him play out the season without an extension?
Regarding Romo, he'll stay with the Cowboys. Jerry Jones will overpay to keep him. If there was a young quarterback in the queue, the Cowboys could roll the dice with Romo and ask him to deliver in a contract year. But by not drafting any young quarterbacks, the Cowboys have surrendered all leverage in these negotiations. The Cowboys will re-sign Romo at his asking price. Romo knows he has a pretty good deal here in Dallas. He won't leave.

http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sports/...ort&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
 

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XxTDxX;5020138 said:
I am really confused about what this "Full Reboot" even means. This is far from the first time I've seen it. Does anyone realize this team actually has a good deal of young talent and players in their prime? Really, aside from Romo, Ware, and Witten.

Bruce Carter, Dez Bryant, Sean Lee, Morris Claiborne, Brandon Carr, Dez Bryant, Tyron Smith, Demarco Murray, James Hanna, Barry Church.. This is just off the top of my head of some young guys who are going to be good players. Also I think we can expect that between Sterling Moore, Costa, Bernardeu, Danny Coale, Matt Johnson, Tyrone Crawford, etc at least one of these guys will turn out to be a guy who we can appreciate.

I understand wanting to get a young QB in here in a year or two and "Rebooting" a couple positions but I hope no one actually wants to go through a full rebuild when we have a lot of young pieces in place as it is.

We play in the toughest division in football by far.. If going 8-8 and being one game out of the playoffs with a core group of young players with a few aging players makes you think we need to undergo a "Reboot" I don't think you are being very logical. This team was also extremely injury plagued. If we manage to have a good draft this year I think we are already going through somewhat of a rebuild in terms of starting to focus this team around the young talent.

It means getting rid of the aging veterans who have been apart of the "band" for long stretches of the Romo/Garrett era. The veteran "core group". I'm a believer in that theory IF we miss the playoffs this upcoming season, as I believe most franchises would go about it if they were in the middle of a 4 year playoff drought. You cut the fat, get young and build for the future. It's exactly what teams like the Niners and Seahawks did the past couple seasons before they found success, and business as usual in the NFL. You don't continue to hold on to an agingh core group of guys if they continue to lose, things need to be shaken up and the page needs to be turned.

But you're right that we have a strong group of young players, they should make for a fantastic core in a rebuilding effort.
 

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SDCowboy85;5020154 said:
Where did you get that he might want Flacco money?

There has been several articles and/or posts about it. I don't know if it's true or not. My point is that if he thinks he deserves that kind of money and is playing hardball, I let him walk. If he has a great year and proves he is worth it, then Dallas benefits from that. If he crashes and burns again with all that money on the line, then I'm glad to be done with him and extremely happy I didn't give him that extension. Meanwhile I would draft a QB this year and plan on looking for another one next year in free agency or via a trade after Romo leaves.
 

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XxTDxX;5020138 said:
We play in the toughest division in football by far..

How do you figure that?!?!

Cumulatively, the NFL East couldn't even play .500 ball last season!!!
 

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Gemini Dolly;5020161 said:
Columnist Rick Gosselin held a chat on Monday. Here are some highlights.

Romo knows he has a pretty good deal here in Dallas. He won't leave.

http://www.***BANNED-URL***/sports/...ort&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
What good deal would that be? Having the oline consistently getting ignored? The Fans treating him like crap? Maybe it's the getting blamed for everything. Yeah, pretty awesome deal he's got. :laugh2:
 

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Quick question, do we save anything by cutting or trading Romo... Like I said just a question :laugh2:
 

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You guys saying to let Romo play out his deal and then franchise him don't realize that Romo's agent basically wrote in a poison pill to prevent this.

Basically you are looking at $25 million to franchise him, something to do with voidable years. We literally would have to take a weed whacked to the roster to franchise him.
 

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Q_the_man;5020224 said:
Quick question, do we save anything by cutting or trading Romo... Like I said just a question :laugh2:

I don't know the specific numbers, but because of the voided years and dead money already left on his original deals, they cap hit would be enormous. Somewhere like 25-30m.
 

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SDCowboy85;5020197 said:
What good deal would that be? Having the oline consistently getting ignored? The Fans treating him like crap? Maybe it's the getting blamed for everything. Yeah, pretty awesome deal he's got. :laugh2:
You think he's treated badly here? He is viewed a lot worse around the league.
 

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bkight13;5020228 said:
I don't know the specific numbers, but because of the voided years and dead money already left on his original deals, they cap hit would be enormous. Somewhere like 25-30m.

How's that if he is a FA after this season? what is his cap hit this season if he plays out contract and what is his cap hit if we released him?
 
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