CFZ Offense with Dak is overrated

[DeaconBlues]

What I dont get is....why is DAK looking for the #4 WR (Brown) when you have CD Lamb, Shultz and Gallup on the field.....IMO it was either a bad play call or a bad decision by DAK.....Game on the line.....you go to your #1s not a #4 WR

Stupidity.

 

[Cboyfan4ever]

You fools blaming Dak are just that.

That play is certainly not on Dak, but many, many other things are.We will never get to where we want w/ our overrated average 40,000,000 dollar QB.

 

[Steve007]

BS he hit Brown in the hands, 1 defender was well behind the play the other trailing the play. Nothing wrong with the throw or Dak throwing it to Brown. You want to put blame om Dak for the 1st int I have no issue with that.

How about the first interception? He had a few bad throws in that game. One option play he pitched the ball to the RB with a defender on the RB and he got tackled for a loss. Made a bad decision should have kept the ball himself.

 

[Rockport]

That play is certainly not on Dak, but many, many other things are.We will never get to where we want w/ our overrated average 40,000,000 dollar QB.

I suggest you root for the Chiefs then and take your loser, I give up easily, attitude with you. Don’t need your type here.

 

[Pass2Run]

I'd say just the opposite.

The guy just set a franchise record, or tied a record for most points scored in consecutive games.

As in, no QB, not even Aikman, Staughbach, Romo, White, Peete, Kosar, Morton, Merideth, Rhome, Hoogeboom, Pelluer, Sweeney, Cunningham, Kitna, et al.....

Meaning the offense's trajectory, points-wise, statistically speaking, is better than it's ever been with any QB in Dallas' history.

What else can the guy do?

The issue is teams are getting better at drafting, assembling teams, and even really good teams have losing records. Today's NFL is the most competitive league I've ever seen. I mean right now, in 2022. These are all great teams. Just a difference of experience, sometimes, and comes down a lot to being a game of wit, because all these teams are talented.

I know, we aren't perfect. But we're far from sucking, too. Settle down. We'll get our Super Bowl soon enough. I'd say sometime in the Parsons/Diggs era.

 

[Pass2Run]

I suggest you root for the Chiefs then and take your loser, I give up easily, attitude with you. Don’t need your type here.

Everyone counting Dak's pockets.. so pathetic. Truly.

If Brown makes the catch that is 1st down, the ball hit his hands, Dak could not have handed him the ball any better. Catch needs to be made plain and simple.

Over the decades I've known you, you can be a real doodie head. But you always keep it real.

Don’t even bother - Dak haters are blinded by hatred-
I’m not a huge fan of Dak on the field (in person he is an incredible dude - truly helped my wife with his words and signature after she lost her sister to cancer and we met him at Frisco a few years back, but I digress)
Anyways, he has his warts on the field but that loss was no freaking way on him

And neither was San Fran.

 

[Flamma]

Dak's turnovers are also happening at the worst possible moments, often giving the other team momentum. It puts the defense on its heels.

Yeah I noticed this. It reminds me of a game against the lions about 8 to 9 years ago.

Dallas opened up the 2nd half with a TD drive making the score 27-3. Then they got the ball back. Detroit couldn't do anything. Romo then proceeds to throw two pick sixes in a row making it 27-17. Giving them the momentum. Now they started moving the ball.

I forget the exact score, but Dallas lost that game. That's an extreme example, but I'm seeing similar momentum changing plays in recent games.

 

[CowboyoWales]

To me that play looks like...we'll put Schultz, Brown and CeeDee all on slants (within a couple of meters of each other) and HOPE someone get's free. That's not play design, unless our strategy is built on hope.

As a question for the masses, is this Moore not trusting Dak's progressions, and using a condensed look to simplify....as the Warner video showed, the amout of double slants we use, see to put our receivers in a condensed space.

 

[CowboyoWales]

I know the offense has been one of the top scoring and yards offenses since Dak came back, but those stats are so misleading on how Dak and this offense is performing. The defense has created many turnovers and short fields for the offense.

Dak's turnovers are also happening at the worst possible moments, often giving the other team momentum. It puts the defense on its heels.

Also, just scoring lots of points can be misleading on how the offense is performing. You have to look at how many possessions the offense is getting, especially if the defense is giving up points. How the offense scores and when it scores in the flow of the game is more important than just scoring a lot of points. For example, the Colts scoring 33 points in the first half against the Vikings is different than scoring 33 points for the whole game. Vikings would not have played hurry up and Colts wouldn't have played prevent defense the entire second half.

Too often, the Cowboys defense has built a double digit lead and start to play soft, prevent defense. The offense has to help the defense and use the clock, score points, but Dak fails and turns the ball over and go three and out. This allows the other team to gain momentum and comeback. Dak makes terrible decisions. He doesn't seem like he has the mental capacity to make smart decision.

The offense and team played better under Cooper Rush because of how he managed the game and the flow of the game kept the defense focused for the entire game.

A decent argument. I suppose playing with a restricted QB you play within those means rather than try expand into game plans that suit your game plan. So that's Jag's and Bears (allowed them back to within something like 5 pts) that we allowed back into a game that we'd already won once.

These two and the inability to kill the Packers game should bring up question marks to how we close out games (either run the ball or show off our passing game)?

 

[Acceptablename]

I know the offense has been one of the top scoring and yards offenses since Dak came back, but those stats are so misleading on how Dak and this offense is performing. The defense has created many turnovers and short fields for the offense.

Dak's turnovers are also happening at the worst possible moments, often giving the other team momentum. It puts the defense on its heels.

Also, just scoring lots of points can be misleading on how the offense is performing. You have to look at how many possessions the offense is getting, especially if the defense is giving up points. How the offense scores and when it scores in the flow of the game is more important than just scoring a lot of points. For example, the Colts scoring 33 points in the first half against the Vikings is different than scoring 33 points for the whole game. Vikings would not have played hurry up and Colts wouldn't have played prevent defense the entire second half.

Too often, the Cowboys defense has built a double digit lead and start to play soft, prevent defense. The offense has to help the defense and use the clock, score points, but Dak fails and turns the ball over and go three and out. This allows the other team to gain momentum and comeback. Dak makes terrible decisions. He doesn't seem like he has the mental capacity to make smart decision.

The offense and team played better under Cooper Rush because of how he managed the game and the flow of the game kept the defense focused for the entire game.

Well I get up in the morning and read this. You know there are other components to consider such as defense and the other 21 players on the team. This team is not in the same league with a Rush instead of Prescott

 

[Zekeats]

You fools blaming Dak are just that.

 

[RomoIsGod]

Noah had it right in his hands

 

[Cmac]

Exactly,he hit his ceiling in 16,it's all been downhill from there.

......is that when Kellen Moore started ascending as QB coach to OC and begin to scheme talent out of the picture?

 

[Fastpitch Dad]

To my amateur eye, it looks like KM designed the play to go to Brown.

It appeared to me that both Schultz and Lamb were running quasi-picks to get Brown some space. And it worked, Schultz was open. I do not like KM at all and wish MM would call the plays, but he did his job on this call.

Dak had another clean pocket, but for some reason he decided to stray directly over to the DL and make a short arm throw. Not sure what his thinking in doing so. It may have caused the ball to have more spin because it was an arm throw. I'm a long time Dak fence-sitter to sometimes thinking he isn't the guy who will ever take up places, but ultimately he got the job done of this play.

I have liked Brown since he became a Cowboy and always thought he could be a good WR if he stayed healthy and got a chance. I have been happy to see him finally have a good year. But he dropped the ball on this play. (pun intended). Even if the ball was traveling end over end, he has to catch that ball. And I would bet he makes that catch 9 out of 10 times easily. He picked a really bad time to go against the odds.

My biggest gripe the last 25+ years is that we always seem to have players who are mentally weak. I really don't understand it, but that's a debate for another day.

Just my opinions.

 

[Cboyfan4ever]

I suggest you root for the Chiefs then and take your loser, I give up easily, attitude with you. Don’t need your type here.

Boys fan since 1977 and always will be.You can settle for mediocrity, I want a little more as all Cowboys fans should.Dak has had 7 yrs to prove himself and obviously isn’t the answer.You can continue to be happy w/ 1 and done every year , but for people who live and breathe football, real football fans, not some fantasy football lover, expect and deserve more.

 

[cnuball21]

This is an interesting take.

Aren’t we like top 3 in every major offensive stat? While Dak plays with a bottom 3 OL and in pass pro success and a mediocre at best WR room?

What would achieving expectations look like? 40 PPG?

 

[Cboyfan4ever]

This is an interesting take.

Aren’t we like top 3 in every major offensive stat? While Dak plays with a bottom 3 OL and in pass pro success and a mediocre at best WR room?

What would achieving expectations look like? 40 PPG?

O line is 1 of the best in football.,so you’re dead wrong there.Don’t care about meaningless stats.All I care about is winning when it really matters which Dak hasn’t been able to do.

 

[Coogiguy03]

And this is why they went and got TY. This is also why Jerry is still pining over OBJ. Those two know how to get it done. Brown had a good game up until than but he’s just not good enough.

Yeah but you're not dealing with the issue it doesn't matter who we bring in if our QB isn't throwing well

 

[cnuball21]

O line is 1 of the best in football.,so you’re dead wrong there.Don’t care about meaningless stats.All I care about is winning when it really matters which Dak hasn’t been able to do.

Based off what, your eyeball test? Sorry that’s irrelevant for me.

 

[baltcowboy]

This is an interesting take.

Aren’t we like top 3 in every major offensive stat? While Dak plays with a bottom 3 OL and in pass pro success and a mediocre at best WR room?

What would achieving expectations look like? 40 PPG?

I gotta give you credit brother. The Dallas offense is not really that talented if you take away CeeDee, Martin, and Pollard. Statistically speaking our line and skill players are not that good. To be honest the defense is in a similar situation with Parsons and Diggs. Dak is a good quarterback but two interceptions a game will bite us in the butt if it continues. He has to play like he did against Minnesota and the first half against Jacksonville.