***Official Draft Thread Day THREE***

[Common Sense]

I like McClain. I'm certain he can be replaced but rush 1s don't grow on trees. We could certainly address that later on or exp next year.

Sure hope so. I like McClain as a bottom of the roster guy. Ideally, there would be a three-way battle between McClain, Hayden, and Bass for the final roster spot at DT.

 

[jobberone]

I would've been fine with Murray but knew he wouldn't drop to the sixth. Now AJ is gone to CIN.

 

[iceberg]

Mccarron to bengals

 

[viman96]

Run on the QBs starting

 

[DFWJC]

Decent value for those two QBs

 

[jobberone]

Sure hope so. I like McClain as a bottom of the roster guy. Ideally, there would be a three-way battle between McClain, Hayden, and Bass for the final roster spot at DT.

I think McClain is going to make the roster. Bass is a lock. Don't make a lot of predictions but he will play the 3 and SDE. Bass and Crawford can play DT in the nickel as well. Perhaps I have too much faith in those two players but I'm comfortable saying that. Not as comfortable with McClain but fairly so. Hayden will get a chance to compete.

 

[burmafrd]

Still snickering about AJ.

 

[IAmLegend]

Actually glad the QB's are gone. Wait until next year to worry about the QB position. If Romo gets hurt we have Orton (for whatever that's worth). If you're going to take a QB, take one with 1st or 2nd round talent.

Besides, next year's crop should be pretty good: Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Brett Hundley.

 

[IAmLegend]

Look who just arrived at DFW

 

[Common Sense]

I think McClain is going to make the roster. Bass is a lock. Don't make a lot of predictions but he will play the 3 and SDE. Bass and Crawford can play DT in the nickel as well. Perhaps I have too much faith in those two players but I'm comfortable saying that. Not as comfortable with McClain but fairly so. Hayden will get a chance to compete.

I share your enthusiasm about Crawford. If they find the right role for him, he will be a productive contributor. Melton will be solid. Lawrence will show flashes at times, but the rest of the line doesn't excite me too much. Mincey will be okay. Spencer might never play another meaningful snap of football. McClain is who-knows-what. Bass couldn't even start on a mediocre A&M defense. Hayden is a big sack of bleh.

 

[jobberone]

I share your enthusiasm about Crawford. If they find the right role for him, he will be a productive contributor. Melton will be solid. Lawrence will show flashes at times, but the rest of the line doesn't excite me too much. Mincey will be okay. Spencer might never play another meaningful snap of football. McClain is who-knows-what. Bass couldn't even start on a mediocre A&M defense. Hayden is a big sack of bleh.

Bass will push for starter snaps although he may have to wait a year to get them. That's assuming his health. Crawford is a solid SDE who can play inside esp on passing downs. Ditto Bass. I'm good with those two.

We'll just have to agree to disagree until we see what we have.

I'm think 3, rush end, DBs and LBers. I'd have loved to have a S but I guess that's off the table.

We'll see.

 

[DFWJC]

I think McClain is going to make the roster. Bass is a lock. Don't make a lot of predictions but he will play the 3 and SDE. Bass and Crawford can play DT in the nickel as well. Perhaps I have too much faith in those two players but I'm comfortable saying that. Not as comfortable with McClain but fairly so. Hayden will get a chance to compete.

Second year in the same scheme, all by itself, should help the defense.

Wait and see....McClain is going to be pretty good in this system.
Crawford for sure improves our rotation.
Bass will contribute too.
Melton will be good...wash with Hatcher
Ware didn't give us a ton last year, but he's still the area of concern...where we need Lawrence and someone else to help.
They brought in the OLB to create completion at the position. But I feel sure Caerter will be better after a year to digest this system.
The Mike really has to stay healthy. He's so valuable and he's killing us missing games. Huge upgrade if he stays healthy. Flat, if not.
Claiborne is a wild card. Man, we so need him.
The team must be counting on Wilcox/Johnson to do the job at FS. We'll see

The offense? They will be outstanding.

I just don't see the 4-12, 6-10 type projections. They should be better, IMO.

 

[Alexander]

Wait until Marinelli coaches him up.

All I want to know is what his Marinelli name is.

 

[Plankton]

That's fair. But I like Bass and Crawford. I like the film on McClain. Melton is fine if he's healthy which apparently they think he is per this draft. I'm not real comfortable with Selvie although he's ok as a WDE. Spencer the question is his health and function. Lawrence should contribute right away. I'm more concerned with the LBers. This defense needs fast LBers.

Per previous post. I think we're in decent shape on the DL but that assumes Melton is good to go. I'd still love to have another really quick 3 and another rush end. I'm also not convinced we are set there either. Too much can and some will go wrong.

OK, that's fair.

I'm not a fan of Bass. He has not been able to stay healthy two straight years, which makes me wonder whether he can physically hold up as an interior player. Going back to Texas A&M, he wasn't particularly productive there (only two years of experience on the DL), so there's not much to feel hopeful for other than the dreaded P word (potential). McClain has washed out with three other teams, and the team that picked him in the third round, the Panthers, let him go after one season. That almost never happens. Placing a lot of stock in either one of these guys is a strategy of hope, and that is not typically a recipe for success.

At end, I like Lawrence a lot, but he is going to need time to adjust to the physicality of the NFL. As a situational pass rusher, he can be a solid contributor, and with some time in an NFL strength and conditioning program, I like his future. Selvie is an OK player, but one that you would always look to upgrade. Anything Spencer contributes is gravy due to his injury status and not playing in a 4-3 defense since his senior year at Purdue.

The LBs are fine, though Lee cannot be counted on to stay healthy for a full season. Carter needs to be pushed heavily, and hopefully Holloman can do that. Wilber/Durant are OK at SLB.

The big concern with this defense is that there are no real upgrades of note at any position, and this defense was personnel deficient a season ago, especially up front. They are also putting a lot of stock and faith in guys with serious injury issues (Melton, Lee, Crawford). I don't see where this defense ends up being significantly better than a season ago, although it would be hard to be as bad or worse.

 

[jobberone]

Second year in the same scheme, all by itself, should help the defense.

Wait and see....McClain is going to be pretty good in this system.
Crawford for sure improves our rotation.
Bass will contribute too.
Melton will be good...wash with Hatcher
Ware didn't give us a ton last year, but he's still the area of concern...where we need Lawrence and someone else to help.
They brought in the OLB to create completion at the position. But I feel sure Caerter will be better after a year to digest this system.
The Mike really has to stay healthy. He's so valuable and he's killing us missing games. Huge upgrade if he stays healthy. Flat, if not.
Claiborne is a wild card. Man, we so need him.
The team must be counting on Wilcox/Johnson to do the job at FS. We'll see

The offense? They will be outstanding.

I just don't see the 4-12, 6-10 type projections. They should be better, IMO.

Not making much of a record prediction but I'm comfortable with the players I talked about.

 

[Common Sense]

Man, a lot of decent defensive players are coming off the board in this round.

 

[Plankton]

All I want to know is what his Marinelli name is.

T-Bone?

 

[Mrdude108]

Look who just arrived at DFW

Does anyone else think that "do not enter" sign behind a stud offensive lineman is just awesome?

 

[jobberone]

OK, that's fair.

I'm not a fan of Bass. He has not been able to stay healthy two straight years, which makes me wonder whether he can physically hold up as an interior player. Going back to Texas A&M, he wasn't particularly productive there (only two years of experience on the DL), so there's not much to feel hopeful for other than the dreaded P word (potential). McClain has washed out with three other teams, and the team that picked him in the third round, the Panthers, let him go after one season. That almost never happens. Placing a lot of stock in either one of these guys is a strategy of hope, and that is not typically a recipe for success.

At end, I like Lawrence a lot, but he is going to need time to adjust to the physicality of the NFL. As a situational pass rusher, he can be a solid contributor, and with some time in an NFL strength and conditioning program, I like his future. Selvie is an OK player, but one that you would always look to upgrade. Anything Spencer contributes is gravy due to his injury status and not playing in a 4-3 defense since his senior year at Purdue.

The LBs are fine, though Lee cannot be counted on to stay healthy for a full season. Carter needs to be pushed heavily, and hopefully Holloman can do that. Wilber/Durant are OK at SLB.

The big concern with this defense is that there are no real upgrades of note at any position, and this defense was personnel deficient a season ago, especially up front. They are also putting a lot of stock and faith in guys with serious injury issues (Melton, Lee, Crawford). I don't see where this defense ends up being significantly better than a season ago, although it would be hard to be as bad or worse.

Fair as well. I've already admitted things have to go well. I think you're wrong about Bass. Hatcher said Bass was going to be a player. He's never said anything like that before and he repeated it and said how disappointed he was for the team when Bass went down as well as for the player. What I've seen of him I have liked.

I agree about his health and coincidently Hatcher had the same problem. I said for years Hatcher was a player who stayed dinged up enough not to play as well as he could. Wade said the same thing on more than one occasion. So if Bass is going to follow the same route then that's too bad. And an Achilles is not necessarily a bullet proof repair either. Much better than even 5 years ago and esp ten years ago. They don't staple those anymore nor suture them. They anchor it thru the heel most of the time in athletes.

 

[gimmesix]

Short of a change in health, it isn't, unless you subscribe to the theory that Monte Kiffin was the cause of all issues. Personnel wise, Melton for Hatcher is at best a wash, but Hatcher's 2013 season is better than anything Melton did in Chicago. Lawrence for Ware is a step back at this time, even with Ware disintegrating before our very eyes.

Obviously, based on some of the bodies we had on the field at times last year, it won't be difficult to be somewhat improved. I think all of us would like to have more blue-chippers, especially since two that we've got are coming off injuries (three if you count Crawford, but I don't consider him a blue-chipper).

Trouble is, our chances to get blue-chippers were limited by how the draft fell. If we could have ended up with Donald and Lawrence, I'm sure Dallas would have done it in a heartbeat. Outside of those two, we'll just have to see if any of the linemen taken from that point on have careers better than what we've got.

That doesn't mean I wouldn't have taken shots anyway, but I can't argue at this point with Dallas going after players it feels have a better chance of being upgrades or making the roster.