***Official Fire Wade Thread***

[Vertigo_17]

demote Stewart and take away his play calling on game day. Let Wade manage the D directly, put the onus on him

Probably the most "reasonable" thing to do at this point. Stewart is over his head and Wade "should" be putting more focus on the defense. But, what are you going to do about special (ed) teams and offense.

Bottom line - this team stinks all around. Coaching all the way down to the players.

 

[sacowboysfan513]

I know most, not all, but most of these post wanting wade fired are being written out of anger and I can't blame you.

But although I don't have that much confidence in him, you have to wait till the end of the season. Give him the year, then if nothing happens, he's out of here.

He knows this team, and there is no promise that his replacement (whoever that would be) would be any better.

 

[theebs]

Ok let's just stay with Wade. We already know it's gonna fail, but hey, we can't replace him cuz we don't have an accomplished OCoord calling the plays (as if Garrett would have to give up that responsibility).

The offensive staff would be fine. That group is fine.

Firing wade would set off a string of problems on the defensive side of the ball.

Firing wade doesnt make the defense better, as bad as it is it probably makes it worse. Firing wade doesnt make the special teams better.

Guys are not going to respond to someone coming in and yelling at them, that can happen overnight. It takes a full offseason to change the approach. I actually think this team would reject the arrogant yelling screaming coach right now.

This staff wont change because it cant, until the offseason.

and for anyone who thinks dave campo is even in the conversation, I got news for ya he is part of the problem here. This defensive staff is missing paul pasqualoni, kacy rodgers, todd bowles. guys the players trusted and respected. Without them this defensive group which was average at best is looking pretty poor. If I didnt know better I would think those assitants had more to do with the sucesss of this team last year than some others did.

 

[dcfanatic]

Jerry wont fire anyone.

But let me say one thing and it's based on what Brad Johnson said at his post game presser, plus the fact that we all know this anyway, that Wade wasn't too happy in his post game speech.

You CAN go from being a hard *** coach to being a softy with some of the players when things aren't going well. They feel as if you are understanding of their frustration and some will take to that change in personality and play harder for you in the future.

You CAN'T go from being a softy to a hard *** coach with some of the players when things aren't going well. Then they feel like you are assigning blame to them and distancing yourself from blame by taking it out on them. This will only alienate them and they don't want to play hard for you in the future.

From here on out it's about the players wanting to get the ship righted because they want to win for each other, not for Wade.

 

[Rack]

The offensive staff would be fine. That group is fine.

Firing wade would set off a string of problems on the defensive side of the ball.
Firing wade doesnt make the defense better, as bad as it is it probably makes it worse. Firing wade doesnt make the special teams better.

Guys are not going to respond to someone coming in and yelling at them, that can happen overnight. It takes a full offseason to change the approach. I actually think this team would reject the arrogant yelling screaming coach right now.

This staff wont change because it cant, until the offseason.

and for anyone who thinks dave campo is even in the conversation, I got news for ya he is part of the problem here. This defensive staff is missing paul pasqualoni, kacy rodgers, todd bowles. guys the players trusted and respected. Without them this defensive group which was average at best is looking pretty poor. If I didnt know better I would think those assitants had more to do with the sucesss of this team last year than some others did.

You're kidding, right?


What, we might give up 34 points to the worst offense in the NFL?

OH WAIT! WE ALREADY DID THAT!


Wade's defense hasn't come CLOSE to accomplishing what he was brought in to get them to accomplish. It would be a GOOD thing to get rid of him and his influence. Great DCoord, SORRY head coach.

Plus, I'd get rid of Read and bring in Joe Avezzano. I mean, we're near the bottom of the NFL in most special teams categories and that may continue, but at least Coach Joe would bring some Fire and Desire, and that's something the team needs. And it rubs off, even if he's out there yelling at his special teams, the offense and defense are seeing it. They're feeling it. It's contagious. Bring him in, even if they still suck, at least they'll play like the want it, and I seriously doubt they'd still play that bad with him coaching.



Bringing in Coach Joe would also free up all those defensive coaches that are helping coach the ST's to - you know - actually coach the defense.


The only coach that would probably leave with Wade would be Stewart, and I want him gone anyway. Let whoever knows the 3-4 on that staff take over as DCoord. What, it might get worse than giving up 34 points to the worst offense in the NFL? I'm willing to take that chance.

 

[FCBarca]

Looking forward to the smart*** comments from Wade in his press conferences to come...Spinning the injuries etc. for the loss, in all likelihood

 

[Rack]

Jerry wont fire anyone.

But let me say one thing and it's based on what Brad Johnson said at his post game presser, plus the fact that we all know this anyway, that Wade wasn't too happy in his post game speech.

You CAN go from being a hard *** coach to being a softy with some of the players when things aren't going well. They feel as if you are understanding of their frustration and some will take to that change in personality and play harder for you in the future.

You CAN'T go from being a softy to a hard *** coach with some of the players when things aren't going well. Then they feel like you are assigning blame to them and distancing yourself from blame by taking it out on them. This will only alienate them and they don't want to play hard for you in the future.

From here on out it's about the players wanting to get the ship righted because they want to win for each other, not for Wade.

You couldn't possibly be more wrong. And in the end, it IS the players' fault. It's just now they'd have a coach who is willing to let them know it's their fault.


Even if it makes them hate the coach, at least they'd hate the coach as a team. And if they stopped playing hard they aren't worth a dang anyway and should be replaced. That goes for ANY player.

 

[5Stars]

The offensive staff would be fine. That group is fine.

Firing wade would set off a string of problems on the defensive side of the ball.

Firing wade doesnt make the defense better, as bad as it is it probably makes it worse. Firing wade doesnt make the special teams better.

Guys are not going to respond to someone coming in and yelling at them, that can happen overnight. It takes a full offseason to change the approach. I actually think this team would reject the arrogant yelling screaming coach right now.

This staff wont change because it cant, until the offseason.

and for anyone who thinks dave campo is even in the conversation, I got news for ya he is part of the problem here. This defensive staff is missing paul pasqualoni, kacy rodgers, todd bowles. guys the players trusted and respected. Without them this defensive group which was average at best is looking pretty poor. If I didnt know better I would think those assitants had more to do with the sucesss of this team last year than some others did.

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Oh, man! I agree with the bolded part of this thread!

I mean, the defense has been (like Tony the Tiger says) Grrreeaat!

 

[EastDallasCowboy]

For the next week you're going to hear people calling for a sacrifice. Be it defensive coordinator Brian Stewart, Head Coach Wade Phillips, or a player a la Bobby Carpenter. The thinking goes, if you fire someone it will get the message across to this team. The problem with this approach is twofold. First, you've got to have someone to replace the sacked party that's equitable if not an upgrade. Short of Bill Cowher coming out of retirement, do you really think you're going to find that? Secondly, if losing to Washington, playing poorly against Cincinnati, and losing to Arizona doesn't motivate a team to show up against an average at best St. Louis team, then is there any reason to think that firing or cutting someone will? I will say this though, in his postgame press conference Wade Phillips had that dear in headlights look of a coach knowing his job security suddenly became less than certain. So what is a GM to do?

I've got no idea. I don't have any answers, I don't think anyone does. Is changing the defensive coordinator going to motivate this defense or change the scheme to make it better? It might. But will that motivate an offensive line that is terribly underperforming? Replacing the head coach might do both, but will it get Barber to stop putting the ball on the turf and Witten and Owens to stop dropping passes? The point is this: there are so many problems with this team, this team is sick in so many areas, that there isn't a panacea.

Owner and GM Jerry Jones has amassed all the talent he can-to the point of making a rare midseason trade for WR Roy Williams-to make this team a contender. He has done all that he can do in my estimation, and yet here they are underperforming. Something has to be done, the question is just what? And will it do any good?

 

[Da Hammer]

You couldn't possibly be more wrong. And in the end, it IS the players' fault. It's just now they'd have a coach who is willing to let them know it's their fault.


Even if it makes them hate the coach, at least they'd hate the coach as a team. And if they stopped playing hard they aren't worth a dang anyway and should be replaced. That goes for ANY player.

could you stop telling people they are wrong? just because thats your opinion it doesnt mean ur right or that he is wrong or the other way around. a "i dont agree" with ur opinion is more appropriate just saying...

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Looking forward to the smart*** comments from Wade in his press conferences to come...Spinning the injuries etc. for the loss, in all likelihood

Wade: "I'm embarrassed and disappointed"

 

[Rack]

could you stop telling people they are wrong? just because thats your opinion it doesnt mean ur right or that he is wrong or the other way around. a "i dont agree" with ur opinion is more appropriate just saying...

Sorry, but if you're wrong, you're wrong.


You CAN go from a softy to a disciplinarian.


We went from Pollyanna to Bill Parcells and made the playoffs with a bunch of scrubs. What more proof is needed?

 

[BAT]

Probably the most "reasonable" thing to do at this point. Stewart is over his head and Wade "should" be putting more focus on the defense. But, what are you going to do about special (ed) teams and offense.

Bottom line - this team stinks all around. Coaching all the way down to the players.

Honestly, if there is one coach (or position group) that needs firing it is the ST. Read should have been booted last season IMO. Read sucked in NY too. And all the signs were pointing to another season of shambles for the ST even as early as the first preseason game.

 

[theebs]

Sorry, but if you're wrong, you're wrong.


You CAN go from a softy to a disciplinarian.


We went from Pollyanna to Bill Parcells and made the playoffs with a bunch of scrubs. What more proof is needed?

UMMM?

If that is the way you took dc's post then you totally missed it.

His point was no one will take wade seriously if he suddenly becomes tough and starts pointing fingers. that would backfire instantly.

Read more carefully if you are going to be so blunt in telling people they are wrong.

 

[Da Hammer]

Sorry, but if you're wrong, you're wrong.


You CAN go from a softy to a disciplinarian.


We went from Pollyanna to Bill Parcells and made the playoffs with a bunch of scrubs. What more proof is needed?

lol u have hardly proved to be right just presented a lot of opinions

 

[bbgun]

Wade: "I'm obese, embarrassed and disappointed"

Fixed.

 

[SilberBlau]

Is this guy available? Some *** kicking dude, oh I'd love that

 

[smoovb]

Personally, I think Wade has lost this team at this point and he won't get it back.

The guy has NO fire. NO passion. If we make a field goal he pumps his arms like it was the greatest thing in the world. When we screw up he just shakes his head and says nothing to NO one.

I was in denial before because I am a fan. But no longer.

Get him the heck out of Dallas on the next thing smokin'.

None of these players will play hard for him.

Amen brother, amen!

 

[Big Dakota]

I think Wade should be made by Jerry to wear a plaid shirt, Doc Martins and a spiked hairdo.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Fixed.

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