Official Jason Garrett Thread **merged**

[robjay04]

Possibly but you simply can't ignore the big mistakes made in a key game again. In the end, even with a suspect D, I suspect if Garrett and company make some smarter decisions at various points in this game, we are talking about a different result.

I don't disagree.

Packers fans are hitting their coach just as hard a week ago after they were stopped on 4th and short.

Sometimes it's up to the players to make a stop despite the coaching.

 

[Sydla]

You said they couldn't and you are wrong......they were one or two plays away from winning

Blame JG all you want but he didn't tip Dak's pass or let Cook catch a 30 yd pass with 3 secs left

If Dak and Zeke like him and respond to him that is good enough for me

No, you are wrong. Did the Cowboys win today? No they did not. So the only proof we have right now is Dak, Zeke and Bryant can't win games all by themselves.

You are right, he didn't force Dak to throw a bad pass or get a ball batted or let Cook catch a 30 yard pass. But he and his coaching staff did make stupid play calls at various times through the game, often eschewing their Pro Bowl TB in short yardage situations to go no back and 4 WR sets, etc.

 

[Nightman]

I never thought we were the best team in the league.... but in the new NFL we were in a spot for a great run....... we blew HFA and came out slow but we also came back to tie

We can beat every team in the league and can lose to some good ones.......it is just good to be back in play as a Franchise....... but I don't need to chew up JG to feel better...... this loss is on everyone and will sting for a long time

 

[CowboyStar88]

Still not a fan, he gets out coached in important games. I don't think this guy will lead this team to a SB championship, let alone a NFCC. I think this is JG ceiling

 

[rynochop]

We weren't in FG range but we should use a TO and effectively take away half the field? You'd effectively lose a down on the back end because you couldn't throw to the middle on 3rd. Don't make it and you can't stop the clock.

So clearly not "inexplicable" - you are confusing bad decisions with decisions that didn't work out.

Yeah, your most likely going to have to burn that TO before you want to if you don't spike it. I wasn't that outraged by it when it happened, they were moving it well

 

[AbeBeta]

it was a indeed bad decision fueled by panic from the sideline. Everyone was up to the line, so why not throw a quick toss to the sideline with the defense in some dissarray? That's a call made with half the time on the clock.

Yes. And had that resulted in a tackle in bounds, you be calling it a terrible coaching decision.

Own your ridiculous hindsight bias.

 

[Sydla]

Still not a fan, he gets out coached in important games. I don't think this guy will lead this team to a SB championship, let alone a NFCC. I think this is JG ceiling

I tend to agree. He's not a bad coach. I suspect he's a decent one. But I just don't think he has the ability to rise up in big games. It's almost like they panic for some reason and get away from what has been working for them. It's still mind numbing for them to have basically ignored Elliott at key times tonight. You picked him 4th EXACTLY for moments like this. And then it seems every 2nd and 3rd and short, you get cute and want to whip it around the field. I don't get it.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Yes. And had that resulted in a tackle in bounds, you be calling it a terrible coaching decision.

Own your ridiculous hindsight bias.

I will own my opinion that it was the wrong thing to do all day every day. It's not hindsight bias when I called out the stupidity of the play as soon as it happened in the game thread.

 

[Sydla]

Yes. And had that resulted in a tackle in bounds, you be calling it a terrible coaching decision.

Own your ridiculous hindsight bias.

If you call timeout with 40 seconds, you can still work the middle of the field and then spike it at that point. At that point in the game, you don't want to give up downs as well as time. Using the timeout there would have been the smarter decision IMO.

 

[Tommy]

we didn't play for overtime, and he is going to be criticized for it by people that don't understand situational football

spiking the ball maximized the plays we were going to have to try to score a touchdown. Playing it any other way was a more conservative approach. it worked out as badly as we can hope, not getting another first, and not really taking any more clock time, but we were aggressive there, and I liked that

It was the right call at the time. When the players do not execute the next 2 plays and we are forced to kick a fg all the hindsight experts here will it was a mistake.

 

[zeke21]

If you call timeout with 40 seconds, you can still work the middle of the field and then spike it at that point. At that point in the game, you don't want to give up downs as well as time. Using the timeout there would have been the smarter decision IMO.

Didn't need time out or Spike.. we were up at the line with 42 seconds left.. just run a quick play.. or a run up the middle and then time out when the clock is down to 25..

 

[Zman5]

People blamed Romo for all the failures in the win or go home games and said it had nothing to do with JG. Well, what's JG's excuse now?

 

[TimHortons]

Garrett did a great job to get us here. We lost because one of the best QBs in the league did something amazing.

And becuase our prevent defense completely crapped the bed. That 3rd down play is inexcusable

 

[dreghorn2]

Honestly we can analyze various moments in the game, decisions etc.. but Jason Garrett doesn't win.

That's it, that's all.

Six and a half years, a hall of fame QB in Romo, 13-3 this season. He doesn't win!!

We've all seen the mistakes throughout the last decade, it's been a brutal learning curve at our and the teams expense.

The unusual management scenario in Dallas has allowed him a longer leash than most NFL head coaches ever have the chance to experience and he has not taken advantage of that incredible opportunity other than to bank a very high salary.

He does however have to humble himself in a manner that few professionals at his level are required to do, but i'm sure he considers it a pretty decent trade off for continuing employment so there is that.

However the team needs better and as mentioned in posts earlier, if he rides the incredible talents of Dak, Dez, and Zeke into continued employment but playoff mediocrity i will explode.

 

[popp1234]

Translation. "I have an agenda and don't realize an amazing season when I see one"

Amazing season? No. Exciting, surprising and entertaining season? Yes. I suppose your standard for "amazing" is a lot lower than mine. Tell me, who the hell is going to remember, in "amazement", the year that the Cowboys went 13-3? Furthermore, who will remember, with "amazement", that the Cowboys went 13-3, had HFA, and lost their first playoff game...AT HOME, to a banged up team? Embarrassing!

You know what? It gets to a point when I accept a person for who and what they are. I have done this through out my life (most of which spent in the military) and in every facet of my life when interacting with people. I did that with Romo, Danny White, and other Cowboys that were on the brink of greatness, but just couldn't quite get over the hump (due to their own account or their surrounding cast). However, there comes a time when I say, hey, this guy is just what he is. I still root for them, no doubt, but I do so while realizing their shortcomings. No agenda here, but I can't say the same about you.

 

[Doomsday]

Even if they did fire JG, which isn't going to happen.

Does anyone have any faith that Jerry would make a good decision on the next head coach?

 

[Satchel89]

I don't want to say get rid of him because the loss is still fresh. But this was a crusher. They fought so hard to get back into the game. But Garrett and Linehan both had bad games to me. Once again, Home field advantage and it's one game and done. I hate to say it but the Cowboys could be bad again next year. It's been this way for 20 years. when they get a team that makes the playoffs, They're a good team but not good enough. But who are they going to get to replace him? Nobody wants to work with Jerry looking over your back. Garrett's back next year so it doesn't matter anyway

 

[AbeBeta]

And becuase our prevent defense completely crapped the bed. That 3rd down play is inexcusable

That 3rd down play was impossible to defend. Good lord sister, amazing throw and catch. No defense can prevent a play like that.

Ignance abound tonight

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

That spike hurts so much. 1 timeout left. 40 seconds. Instead we wasted a down.

Garrett is a good Monday-Saturday coach. But he has his moments on Sunday where it just makes you wonder what he's thinking in terms of clock management.

Also disappointed we didn't run zeke more on 3rd and short: 3rd and 2 on the first drive and 3rd and 2 that led to the INT.

With Linehan, 3rd and 2 has always been equal to 3rd and long and it's why he needs to be gone.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

That 3rd down play was impossible to defend. Good lord sister, amazing throw and catch. No defense can prevent a play like that.

Ignance abound tonight

That play was not impossible to defend, it was the combination of an epic hold not called, and the Safety for whatever reason being extremely lazy on the play. That play should have been easy to defend or at minimum should have been called back.