***Official who should be the next HC thread merged***

[Machete]

Coach Jones.

 

[cej757]

Bill O'Brien would be my choice.

 

[visionary]

Who should be or who will be?

Who should be the candidates:
1) David Shaw
2) Kevin Sumlin
3) Bill O'Brien

Who will be the candidates:
1) Lovie Smith (would allow Rod Marinelli to slide to defensive coordinator)
2) Mike Zimmer (familiarity breeds comfort)
2) Todd Bowles (I believe he interviewed for the position before)

Don't be surprised to see Norv Turner get an interview again. Barring Turner actually getting the job, I fully expect Jerry to pressure the incoming coach to hire Tony Sparano as offensive coordinator so that Romo doesn't have to learn a brand new system this late in his career.

You just made me throw up because I know that you are correct

 

[cej757]

I'm sure Larry Lacewell has a Coach in mind for Jerry.

 

[BlueStar22]

Mike Zimmer if he negotiates the right contract.

 

[Alexander]

Who should be or who will be?

Who should be the candidates:
1) David Shaw
2) Kevin Sumlin
3) Bill O'Brien

Who will be the candidates:
1) Lovie Smith (would allow Rod Marinelli to slide to defensive coordinator)
2) Mike Zimmer (familiarity breeds comfort)
2) Todd Bowles (I believe he interviewed for the position before)

Don't be surprised to see Norv Turner get an interview again. Barring Turner actually getting the job, I fully expect Jerry to pressure the incoming coach to hire Tony Sparano as offensive coordinator so that Romo doesn't have to learn a brand new system this late in his career.

The Lovie Smith thing will most assuredly happen if Jones gets fed up enough to fire Garrett. It is the perfect set up for him, not Jon Gruden. Gruden ticked off Al Davis a lot and I am sure while he was alive, he let his good friend Jerry Jones know all about it. Gruden tried to be a rock star on Davis' stage. I do not think Jerry Jones is willing to hire a coach with a persona bigger than his, nor do I think Gruden is getting killed in divorce enough to be willing to work under that again.

 

[Alexander]

Mike Zimmer if he negotiates the right contract.

This is also very likely. Especially if he is cheaper than Garrett is. And he probably will be, since he has wanted a HC job for a while. He would be feeling like Jerry Jones is doing him a favor.

 

[Miller]

Very interesting option here... I did not think about his prior time in NE. OBrien and Romo working together would be successful because they would have a RUNNING game. He would put Romo into win every game on the last series situations. Lastly, I do not think the Dallas stage would be overwhelming to him. He seems pretty well grounded.

He also wasn't afraid to get in Brady's face. He is the one that was yelling with Brady on the sidelines one game and Brady completely apologized later. He has on players respect while being tough. I think Texans are going to go after him too.

 

[BlueStar22]

This is also very likely. Especially if he is cheaper than Garrett is. And he probably will be, since he has wanted a HC job for a while. He would be feeling like Jerry Jones is doing him a favor.

That makes him feel like a charity case. I think he has a legitimate shot at landing a HC job next year and he deserves it. He's paid his dues. Also helps that his family still lives here.

 

[Alexander]

That makes him feel like a charity case. I think he has a legitimate shot at landing a HC job next year and he deserves it. He's paid his dues.

I am sure teams like the Lions will make a run at him, probably others as well (scary thought there is that Jones could view that as a "competition").

You could say he has "earned it", although I am hardly as impressed with him as a lot of people apparently are. I still remember what kind of defenses he ran in Dallas and they were more like reflections of Campo mixed with whatever he learned on the fly from taking junkets to Tampa to learn from Kiffin or whatever Bill Parcells could tell him about the 3-4.

I just do not want anyone Jones has comfort with. Zimmer has been around Jones and knows the "value" of Jones' "unique" structure and I do not see that as being all that useful.

 

[Stash]

I am sure teams like the Lions will make a run at him, probably others as well (scary thought there is that Jones could view that as a "competition").

You could say he has "earned it", although I am hardly as impressed with him as a lot of people apparently are. I still remember what kind of defenses he ran in Dallas and they were more like reflections of Campo mixed with whatever he learned on the fly from taking junkets to Tampa to learn from Kiffin or whatever Bill Parcells could tell him about the 3-4.

I just do not want anyone Jones has comfort with. Zimmer has been around Jones and knows the "value" of Jones' "unique" structure and I do not see that as being all that useful.

I don't see how you can sell a Zimmer hire as hope. Nothing against him or his abilities, but I don't see how you can energize and rally a fanbase by hiring him.

 

[Beast_from_East]

My first choice would be Ken Whisenhunt. I think he's had quality offenses whenever he's had a good quarterback. And he's done a great job in San Diego.

That said, I don't think Jerry can get him.

What I think will happen is a 'name hire' - Jon Gruden.

Jerry will be able to 'sell hope' to what is currently a disillusioned fanbase and get the masses off of his back for a while and get the Cowboys name back in the headlines.

Gruden will get a $30 million payday and be set for life, no matter how things work out.

And from his perspective, I think he sees the talent that this team does have on offense. All he needs to do is to find a good defensive coordinator to completely handle that side of the ball (which he is not interested in).

I also can't help but think that the hiring of all of these former Tampa / Gruden coaches was done at least on some level as a contingency plan if things with Garrett didn't work out (as they haven't).

Good post...........I agree..........I think you may be right about these Tampa coaches and Gruden. I have to believe that Jerry and Stephen have had a private "what if" conversation at some point about Garrett not working out. Jerry is too good of a business man to not at least think about contingency plans.

I think right now everybody is waiting to see how this thing plays out..............if we get eliminated for a 4th consecutive year from playoff contention, there is no way Jerry can sell Garrett to the fan base. Aikman spending the entire 2nd half tearing into Garrett about his game management was probably the stake through the heart for Garrett...........................when a Cowboy legend like Aikman basically calls you an idiot on national TV, going to be dam hard for the fans not to think the same way.

 

[Beast_from_East]

The Lovie Smith thing will most assuredly happen if Jones gets fed up enough to fire Garrett. It is the perfect set up for him, not Jon Gruden. Gruden ticked off Al Davis a lot and I am sure while he was alive, he let his good friend Jerry Jones know all about it. Gruden tried to be a rock star on Davis' stage. I do not think Jerry Jones is willing to hire a coach with a persona bigger than his, nor do I think Gruden is getting killed in divorce enough to be willing to work under that again.

Good points.......................Gruden may be too "Hollywood" for Jerry......................Lovie would be a great fit, especially considering his son already works here.

 

[BlueStar22]

Good points.......................Gruden may be too "Hollywood" for Jerry......................Lovie would be a great fit, especially considering his son already works here.

I don't think there's any way in hell Lovie Smith would come here. I don't think any successful, experienced, HC would work for Jerry. Especially one who's taken a year off and has had time to observe this mess.

 

[TNCowboy]

None of these name coaches are coming here. Their choices are to be somewhere where they're essentially their own boss when it comes to football matters, but they're going to give that up (or forego getting that elsewhere) in order to come work under the thumb of 2 rubes like Jerry and Stephen Jones? Jon Gruden can get a job almost anywhere and he's going to subject himself to a loudmouth drunk or his equally obnoxious son overriding him on draft picks and free agents?
Simply not going to happen. Has the last 20 years not taught you guys anything? Jones handed the keys over to Parcells and was then giddy to get them back. And it can't be said enough, Jones already admitted he did that to get Arlington to fork over $350 million or whatever it was.

No upper echelon coach is coming to Dallas unless he's also named GM or gets to hire his own GM. Elite coaches like Andy Reid, Bill Belichick, Nick Saban, or one of the Harbaughs would even consider coming to Dallas.

Sadly, if even the biggest, most blind homer would be honest about it, the fact that we can't get one of those guys shows how much of a handicap the Jones really are. The only kind of coach we're going to get is a retread like Lovie Smith, Bobby Petrino or John Fox, or some mediocre coordinator (Zimmer) or relative unknown assistant or college coach.

 

[newlander]

I'm sorry DC nation. I'm tired of the coaching carousel. I understand it gives people a sense of new hope but this team will be in the same direction as long as the same men who run the franchise up top run it.

best post of thread....this is way more of a JJ problem than anyone else. Hate him

 

[newlander]

I don't think there's any way in hell Lovie Smith would come here. I don't think any successful, experienced, HC would work for Jerry. Especially one who's taken a year off and has had time to observe this mess.

correct

 

[KB1122]

Question: Why would any good coach come into a situation where the quarterback at least appears to have so much contractual power over the offense?

 

[newlander]

None of these name coaches are coming here. Their choices are to be somewhere where they're essentially their own boss when it comes to football matters, but they're going to give that up (or forego getting that elsewhere) in order to come work under the thumb of 2 rubes like Jerry and Stephen Jones? Jon Gruden can get a job almost anywhere and he's going to subject himself to a loudmouth drunk or his equally obnoxious son overriding him on draft picks and free agents?
Simply not going to happen. Has the last 20 years not taught you guys anything? Jones handed the keys over to Parcells and was then giddy to get them back. And it can't be said enough, Jones already admitted he did that to get Arlington to fork over $350 million or whatever it was.

No upper echelon coach is coming to Dallas unless he's also named GM or gets to hire his own GM. Elite coaches like Andy Reid, Bill Belichick, Nick Saban, or one of the Harbaughs would even consider coming to Dallas.

Sadly, if even the biggest, most blind homer would be honest about it, the fact that we can't get one of those guys shows how much of a handicap the Jones really are. The only kind of coach we're going to get is a retread like Lovie Smith, Bobby Petrino or John Fox, or some mediocre coordinator (Zimmer) or relative unknown assistant or college coach.

also a great post: just can't disagree with anything in it. I wouldn't doubt we end up with someone like Zimmer. The Steelers SHREDDED them the other night. Zim's VERY mediocre: great guy, but just average

 

[Beast_from_East]

None of these name coaches are coming here. Their choices are to be somewhere where they're essentially their own boss when it comes to football matters, but they're going to give that up (or forego getting that elsewhere) in order to come work under the thumb of 2 rubes like Jerry and Stephen Jones? Jon Gruden can get a job almost anywhere and he's going to subject himself to a loudmouth drunk or his equally obnoxious son overriding him on draft picks and free agents?
Simply not going to happen. Has the last 20 years not taught you guys anything? Jones handed the keys over to Parcells and was then giddy to get them back. And it can't be said enough, Jones already admitted he did that to get Arlington to fork over $350 million or whatever it was.

No upper echelon coach is coming to Dallas unless he's also named GM or gets to hire his own GM. Elite coaches like Andy Reid, Bill Belichick, Nick Saban, or one of the Harbaughs would even consider coming to Dallas.

Sadly, if even the biggest, most blind homer would be honest about it, the fact that we can't get one of those guys shows how much of a handicap the Jones really are. The only kind of coach we're going to get is a retread like Lovie Smith, Bobby Petrino or John Fox, or some mediocre coordinator (Zimmer) or relative unknown assistant or college coach.

Dam dude.................you are bringing us all down................cant we have a little fun fantasizing about it before you just throw cold water in our face..............................LOL