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Bluestang;2990729 said:
Whoa whoa whoa. Tomlin to me is a guy riding the success of Dick LeBeau, Pit has managed to be a Top D yr after yr because of that D.

and he's won division titles, playoff games, has drafted well, challenges his players and gets the most out of them. Yeah he has a great defensive coordinator. But as a leader, he is top notch.
 

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be careful what you wish for with Gruden. The Glazers polled the players last year after the season ended and the poll said they wanted Gruden gone. He alienated every player on offense. He would tell the players one thing to their face and end up doing the opposite to what he told them. Jerry Jones has the players ear a lot more than teh Glazer did and it will not end pretty. He took Tony Dungys team to the Super Bowl but that team may have gone to the Super Bowl with anybody. Think the Cowboys with Barry Switzer.

If a mutinous locker room is what you are after, then Gruden is your man. The guy also required to have final say in personel matters with the bucs. Allen was a GM by title only and was Grudens yes man. Whatever Jon Gruden wanted, Allen would get.

Gruden would destroy Tony Romo. He would never be good enough and would constantly be looking at players who could replace him.
 

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You may very well be right in that regard. I guess time will tell.




RCowboyFan;2990839 said:
Yeah, Gannon played better after Gruden left, i..e took the Team to SB. He has Tim Brown and Jerry Rice, please, thats not turning anyone to Pro-bowl.

Besides like someone here pointed out, he really lost the team with Bucs. He is the one who let the team almost guranteed playoff spot disappear. Same with Shanahan.

And what has Mike Holmgren done after the SB appearance? Sick of these re-tread coaches and somehow fans thinking all Cowboys need is coaching change and somehow the mediocre players or the player culture here in Dalas is going to change.

As long as Jerry is calling the shots and hiring the coaches, this team has no chance. I would love that to be proven wrong, but I have tried to be optimistic, but done with that. Until proven otherwise, this team is done. It will be an average team because of they have enough talent.

Romo will never be an elite QB and I never thought he would be in first place. He is an average to above avg qb. He doesn't suck, but he is not elite. He is more like Donovan McNabb I think, without the playoff victories.
 

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if gruden was the coach today the wr and qb probably still make mistakes....felix jones and barber are still probably hurt and our defense is probably alot worse and probably gives up a bunch of points.

so no thanks to gruden.
 

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if true that is troubling and may make Jerry shy away from him. But Holmgren is tight with Jerry. It may be whether he feels he has the desire to coach again.
FloridaRob;2990878 said:
be careful what you wish for with Gruden. The Glazers polled the players last year after the season ended and the poll said they wanted Gruden gone. He alienated every player on offense. He would tell the players one thing to their face and end up doing the opposite to what he told them. Jerry Jones has the players ear a lot more than teh Glazer did and it will not end pretty. He took Tony Dungys team to the Super Bowl but that team may have gone to the Super Bowl with anybody. Think the Cowboys with Barry Switzer.

If a mutinous locker room is what you are after, then Gruden is your man. The guy also required to have final say in personel matters with the bucs. Allen was a GM by title only and was Grudens yes man. Whatever Jon Gruden wanted, Allen would get.

Gruden would destroy Tony Romo. He would never be good enough and would constantly be looking at players who could replace him.
 

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I'm not typically a reactionary kind of guy, but here's what I'd like to see done on the coaching front this year.

Fire Wade, now before the Bye week, and promote Garrett to Interim Head Coach. Not because I think he's done a great job, because he hasn't, but just to see if he has any potential as Head Coaching material before we let him walk like we did with other young coaching prospects like Payton and Haley, etc.

If Garrett can light a fire under the team, then great, he deserves the job. If he can't, then jettison him as well at the end of the season and bring in an experienced commodity like Gruden, Shanahan, Cowher, Holmgren... any of them will do.
 

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Right now outside of Cowher (who is my dream canidate that I know will never be here) I'm actually becoming more and more interested in the idea of either Gruden or Dungy for various reasons.

With Gruden I know he's not the best choice in some people's eyes but I think he adds one thing that would really help this team, a lot, and that is a fire that our coaching staff simply doesn't bring out in them. I think Gruden could bring that fire out.

With Dungy it's a disiplined approach. I believe he'd do a great job of getting rid of a ton of the mental mistakes and errors we seem to continue to make that just cost us in the worst ways.

I'd be pretty pleased with either guy.
 

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Danny White;2993289 said:
I'm not typically a reactionary kind of guy, but here's what I'd like to see done on the coaching front this year.

Fire Wade, now before the Bye week, and promote Garrett to Interim Head Coach. Not because I think he's done a great job, because he hasn't, but just to see if he has any potential as Head Coaching material before we let him walk like we did with other young coaching prospects like Payton and Haley, etc.

If Garrett can light a fire under the team, then great, he deserves the job. If he can't, then jettison him as well at the end of the season and bring in an experienced commodity like Gruden, Shanahan, Cowher, Holmgren... any of them will do.


ginger cant even light a fire under his offense, he has no chance of doing that for the entire team.
 

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I would be all for firing Wade, but he is the defensive coordinator so he really istn going anywhere til the end of the season.
 

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Danny White;2993289 said:
I'm not typically a reactionary kind of guy, but here's what I'd like to see done on the coaching front this year.

Fire Wade, now before the Bye week, and promote Garrett to Interim Head Coach. Not because I think he's done a great job, because he hasn't, but just to see if he has any potential as Head Coaching material before we let him walk like we did with other young coaching prospects like Payton and Haley, etc.

If Garrett can light a fire under the team, then great, he deserves the job. If he can't, then jettison him as well at the end of the season and bring in an experienced commodity like Gruden, Shanahan, Cowher, Holmgren... any of them will do.


I love that idea.
 

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Cochese;2993331 said:
ginger cant even light a fire under his offense, he has no chance of doing that for the entire team.

No kidding. How the hell do you reward Garrett for the job he's done by giving him the whole team?

This loss was very disturbing, but you don't blow up a 2-2 team that's lost to two teams that are a combined 8-0.
 

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What you also get with Dungy is someone who played the game and someone the players all really respect. Players want to do better because they don't want to let him down. Also, from hearing player interviews, he has quite a bit of fire as well, he just doesn't shout and scream on the sideline and demean players openly.

Since he retired I have thought Dungy should be our next head coach. Cowher is a man among coaches, but I don't see that happening.

I say Dungy at HC and get the fiery yellers and screamers to be coordinators.

And keep coach D.
 

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Danny White;2993289 said:
I'm not typically a reactionary kind of guy, but here's what I'd like to see done on the coaching front this year.

Fire Wade, now before the Bye week, and promote Garrett to Interim Head Coach. Not because I think he's done a great job, because he hasn't, but just to see if he has any potential as Head Coaching material before we let him walk like we did with other young coaching prospects like Payton and Haley, etc.

If Garrett can light a fire under the team, then great, he deserves the job. If he can't, then jettison him as well at the end of the season and bring in an experienced commodity like Gruden, Shanahan, Cowher, Holmgren... any of them will do.

that makes to much sense, Dallas know's what they got in Wade.. he has hit his ceiling as HC... Give Garrett the opportunity,(not likely) step in and succeed. Eventhough the outcome will still be 9-7 to 8-8. By implanting different HC and DC, it could build Chemistry or at least provide HC with a higher draft pick.

my three issues
1) What a farce this 2009 draft turned out to be,
2) Trading for WR,(who I like) for a 1st and 3rd you would think Jerry Jones would of learned his lesson after the Joey Galloway deal
3) No defense, NO Discpline =No Coaching or defacto Jerry Jones coaching see the CAMPO years..



The writing is on the wall, its just about his contract and money now.
 

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Danny White;2993289 said:
I'm not typically a reactionary kind of guy, but here's what I'd like to see done on the coaching front this year.

Fire Wade, now before the Bye week, and promote Garrett to Interim Head Coach. Not because I think he's done a great job, because he hasn't, but just to see if he has any potential as Head Coaching material before we let him walk like we did with other young coaching prospects like Payton and Haley, etc.

If Garrett can light a fire under the team, then great, he deserves the job. If he can't, then jettison him as well at the end of the season and bring in an experienced commodity like Gruden, Shanahan, Cowher, Holmgren... any of them will do.

I like this idea for the sole fact that it's very rare for the interim HC to be asked to be the HC all in once pretty much kill 2 birds with one stone and set our selves up for a good draft pick next season.
 

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Make DeCamillas head coach, if the team doesnt improve, he still has a job here next year special teams coach.
 

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I vote Dungy and for all you that is going to say Dungy probably won't return to coaching.....one word: MONEY
 

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BraveHeartFan;2993330 said:
Right now outside of Cowher (who is my dream canidate that I know will never be here) I'm actually becoming more and more interested in the idea of either Gruden or Dungy for various reasons.

With Gruden I know he's not the best choice in some people's eyes but I think he adds one thing that would really help this team, a lot, and that is a fire that our coaching staff simply doesn't bring out in them. I think Gruden could bring that fire out.

With Dungy it's a disiplined approach. I believe he'd do a great job of getting rid of a ton of the mental mistakes and errors we seem to continue to make that just cost us in the worst ways.

I'd be pretty pleased with either guy.

these r not high school or college kids...they are grown men playing professionally. The head coach should not be required to "bring out" the fire. I agree that Gruden would hold the players acountable for the screw ups and maybe that would MAKE them practice better and play better in the games...
 

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I don't want Dungy unless he is bringing Peyton with him and I don't want Cowher unless he can bring LeBeau.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2993352 said:
No kidding. How the hell do you reward Garrett for the job he's done by giving him the whole team?

This loss was very disturbing, but you don't blow up a 2-2 team that's lost to two teams that are a combined 8-0.

Perspective? We don't need no stinkin' perspective.
 

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Avaj;2993381 said:
I vote Dungy and for all you that is going to say Dungy probably won't return to coaching.....one word: MONEY

you don't know anything about Dungy, do you?
 
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