Offseason musing. What would you take for Dak?

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I never said he was "great" I said he had a great season and has the potential to be great. Granted this was a horrible missed opportunity but it certainly wasn't because of Dak. I'm not spitting in Romo's face where are you getting that from? Once our 11 game winning streak ended that was a good reason to go back to Romo? We were 13 weeks into the season with an 11-2 record and Romo hadn't taken a snap in a game since August.

There was no reason to go back to him, the Cowboys had already become Dak's team. You don't change Captains that far out to sea because of one bump. Dak is good enough to win a SB, he proved that in the playoffs bringing us back from an 18 point deficit to tie the game against Aaron Rodgers. Had our defense stepped up and made a stop, giving Dak one more chance with the ball we would have pulled that game out.
Why can't you change QB, as if players in locker room have any say so in outing romo..half the defense is just cashing checks and half the players and staff owe Romo their careers he made most of them...without Romo in that locker room the past 10 years no of them are even sniffing a title or thinking about one..so spare me this is "dak's team"
 

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Blah blah blah blah...lost in the first round..

Blah blah blah blah, it was his first season and he had the greatest rookie season an NFL QB has ever had. He accomplished some things that no Cowboys QB ever accomplished as a rookie. Deal with it!
 

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Romo had the same thing in 2014, the best OL in the league and leagues leading rusher and we didn't get past the divisional round of the playoffs. Romo had 10 years as the Cowboys starting QB and we only made the playoffs 4 times, with 2 playoff wins. Romo isn't going to win a SB because he can't play a full season without getting hurt. Age and injuries have caught up to him.
All speculation. .
 

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Dak's only had one chance so far and had the best rookie season not only in franchise history but in league history. He had a Pro Bowl season and a Rookie of the Year season. He did in one season what Troy Aikman and Romo did only once during their entire careers and that's lead the Cowboys to a 13-3 record and the #1 seed. He did something that no other Cowboys QB has ever done and that's lead the team to a franchise record 11 straight wins. He beat 2 future HOF QBs ON THE ROAD who've won 3 SBs between them.

If he was allowed to play the entire season finale instead of only one quarter he could have won more games in one season than any Cowboys QB. Dak is off to a great start to his career and if we had a defense that was worth a damn we could have very easily ended up in the SB. Dak wasn't even being prepared to start in 2016 until after the 3rd preseason game. The Cowboys can win a championship with him at QB, there's no doubt in my mind but for us to do that we're going to have to improve the defense.
Those have been broken so many times, not a stat that will be held for 10 20 even 30 years likely be broken very soon. Especially the way college QB and QBs in general are being taughy and taken care of in the field with rules and what not
 

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I hope that Prescott enjoys a long, Hall of Fame type career. That said I also hope that some observers of his very short career will try less hard placing him atop the already exceedingly high, newly crafted pedestal they have made for him.

Sports are filled with athletic milestones that aren't often equaled by the very athletes who set the high marks for their sport and themselves. Same goes for the NFL. Sometimes I think about Timmy Smith. Smith ran wild in his rookie season when Washington reached the Super Bowl. He ran for 204 rushing yards in the biggest professional football game of them all--a record untouched for 30 years. Heck, it's a record that may not be broken during this pass happy era of the NFL. And even though drugs were Smith's downfall, he remains an illustration that what seems like destiny doesn't always continue in the exact same way.

Prescott has an opportunity for great success. Hopefully, observers will not hold him to the same extremely high standard that he set during his rookie season. That rookie standard may go unmatched or even closely matched by comparison to his veteran years in front of him and Prescott could still help the team compete and win championships. In short, even the greatest NFL quarterbacks who preceded Prescott never required excessive hype in becoming the best the league has ever seen.
 

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Why can't you change QB, as if players in locker room have any say so in outing romo..half the defense is just cashing checks and half the players and staff owe Romo their careers he made most of them...without Romo in that locker room the past 10 years no of them are even sniffing a title or thinking about one..so spare me this is "dak's team"

You don't make a QB change when you're 11-2 and the QB you're playing with is having one of the best seasons of any QB in the league. The players in the lockerroom were all on board with Dak, he completely energized the franchise. He made the players around him better and showed great leadership and poise throughout the season. Before Dak arrived the Cowboys were nothing without Romo but now the Cowboys have the chance to go farther than they ever did with Romo. Dak is more steady and doesn't turn the ball over as much. He's more poised under pressure and shows more leadership skills than Romo. He's able to maintain his poise, even when things aren't going our way. He played some of his best football this past season in come from behind situations.
 

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I hope that Prescott enjoys a long, Hall of Fame type career. That said I also hope that some observers of his very short career will try less hard placing him atop the already exceedingly high, newly crafted pedestal they have made for him.

Sports are filled with athletic milestones that aren't often equaled by the very athletes who set the high marks for their sport and themselves. Same goes for the NFL. Sometimes I think about Timmy Smith. Smith ran wild in his rookie season when Washington reached the Super Bowl. He ran for 204 rushing yards in the biggest professional football game of them all--a record untouched for 30 years. Heck, it's a record that may not be broken during this pass happy era of the NFL. And even though drugs were Smith's downfall, he remains an illustration that what seems like destiny doesn't always continue in the exact same way.

Prescott has an opportunity for great success. Hopefully, observers will not hold him to the same extremely high standard that he set during his rookie season. That rookie standard may go unmatched or even closely matched by comparison to his veteran years in front of him and Prescott could still help the team compete and win championships. In short, even the greatest NFL quarterbacks who preceded Prescott never required excessive hype in becoming the best the league has ever seen.
I'll hold him to the same standard as they held Romo championship or bust..and of so far..bust
You don't make a QB change when you're 11-2 and the QB you're playing with is having one of the best seasons of any QB in the league. The players in the lockerroom were all on board with Dak, he completely energized the franchise. He made the players around him better and showed great leadership and poise throughout the season. Before Dak arrived the Cowboys were nothing without Romo but now the Cowboys have the chance to go farther than they ever did with Romo. Dak is more steady and doesn't turn the ball over as much. He's more poised under pressure and shows more leadership skills than Romo. He's able to maintain his poise, even when things aren't going our way. He played some of his best football this past season in come from behind situations.
Player around him better? Not in the slightest that title belongs to zeke
 

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All speculation. .

It isn't speculating that age and injuries have caught up to Romo, just look at the past 2 seasons. Do you consider what's happen to him the past 2 seasons a fluke? He's missed games the past 4 seasons and can't move around as well as he used to. Dak took at least a couple of hits this season, one of which the trainers were checking his shoulder on that would have likely put Romo on the shelf again.
 

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It isn't speculating that age and injuries have caught up to Romo, just look at the past 2 seasons. Do you consider what's happen to him the past 2 seasons a fluke? He's missed games the past 4 seasons and can't move around as well as he used to. Dak took at least a couple of hits this season, one of which the trainers were checking his shoulder on that would have likely put Romo on the shelf again.
The second injury in Seattle was yes a fluke freak accident in addition a really really dirty player and tackle.
 

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I'll hold him to the same standard as they held Romo championship or bust..and of so far..bust

Player around him better? Not in the slightest that title belongs to zeke

Dak will be held to the same high standard that Staubach and Aikman set. The bar was set real high by both QBs. Dak is going to have to win a championship or he'll go though the same scrutiny that Danny White and Romo went through. Zeke wouldn't have been as good without solid QB play. We would have gotten behind in games had we not had efficient QB play, which would have taken us away from the running game. Opponents would have stacked the box trying to stop Zeke had Dak not provided such a passing and running threat. Both Zeke and Dak fed off each other. Dak's ability to run helped Zeke and vice versa. The Cowboys can't win games without efficient QB play and we found that out in 2015 despite McFadden putting up almost 1100 rushing yards.
 

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The second injury in Seattle was yes a fluke freak accident in addition a really really dirty player and tackle.

Say what you will but that Romo's 3rd different back injury since 2013 and there was absolutely nothing dirty about the hit or tackle. You're just grasping for anything you can.
 

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Dak will be held to the same high standard that Staubach and Aikman set. The bar was set real high by both QBs. Dak is going to have to win a championship or he'll go though the same scrutiny that Danny White and Romo went through. Zeke wouldn't have been as good without solid QB play. We would have gotten behind in games had we not had efficient QB play, which would have taken us away from the running game. Opponents would have stacked the box trying to stop Zeke had Dak not provided such a passing and running threat. Both Zeke and Dak fed off each other. Dak's ability to run helped Zeke and vice versa. The Cowboys can't win games without efficient QB play and we found that out in 2015 despite McFadden putting up almost 1100 rushing yards.
Cowboys can't win games that matter is more like it, QB efficency has nothing to do with it or the reason why we lost or won..all it means is that he completing passes could be a 1 yrd pass could be a 50yrd pass how does this in any way show that's how we win games..although I agree dak and zeke did compliment eachothere well but as individuals zeke over dak any day
 

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Say what you will but that Romo's 3rd different back injury since 2013 and there was absolutely nothing dirty about the hit or tackle. You're just grasping for anything you can.
So are you...just diff reasons. But the results don't change 2 diff qb player at very high levels and two times they failed..who should stay and who should go? Neither and Romo should be starting if he is healthy
 

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I'll hold him to the same standard as they held Romo championship or bust..and of so far..bust.
I will not label Prescott as a bust at this point (I think he has a very strong career ahead of him), I do not fault anyone from taking that position even though I don't agree with their evaluation. Life has shown me that every sports enthusiast does not evaluate individual player performance the same way in a team based sport. In football, I have seen differing appraisal methodologies by coaches, players, media and fans often on the high school, college and professional levels. And I have seen unnecessary criticism lumped upon too many players over the years.

Sometimes observers create unfair standards for players. It's equitable that observers are held accountable for the standards they set.
 

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I will not label Prescott as a bust at this point (I think he has a very strong career ahead of him), I do not fault anyone from taking that position even though I don't agree with their evaluation. Life has shown me that every sports enthusiast does not evaluate individual player performance the same way in a team based sport. In football, I have seen differing appraisal methodologies by coaches, players, media and fans often on the high school, college and professional levels. And I have seen unnecessary criticism lumped upon too many players over the years.

Sometimes observers create unfair standards for players. It's equitable that observers are held accountable for the standards they set.
Very well said
 

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I will stand in the fire if the day comes, dak proves me wrong...which I hope he can and does..but until then I will remain here with my glass half empty..
 

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I hope that Prescott enjoys a long, Hall of Fame type career. That said I also hope that some observers of his very short career will try less hard placing him atop the already exceedingly high, newly crafted pedestal they have made for him.

Sports are filled with athletic milestones that aren't often equaled by the very athletes who set the high marks for their sport and themselves. Same goes for the NFL. Sometimes I think about Timmy Smith. Smith ran wild in his rookie season when Washington reached the Super Bowl. He ran for 204 rushing yards in the biggest professional football game of them all--a record untouched for 30 years. Heck, it's a record that may not be broken during this pass happy era of the NFL. And even though drugs were Smith's downfall, he remains an illustration that what seems like destiny doesn't always continue in the exact same way.

Prescott has an opportunity for great success. Hopefully, observers will not hold him to the same extremely high standard that he set during his rookie season. That rookie standard may go unmatched or even closely matched by comparison to his veteran years in front of him and Prescott could still help the team compete and win championships. In short, even the greatest NFL quarterbacks who preceded Prescott never required excessive hype in becoming the best the league has ever seen.


Timmy Smith did virtually nothing until that SB. He appeared in 6 games that season and never rushed for more than 72 yards until the SB. That game was clearly a fluke, he was nothing more than a "one game" wonder so I wouldn't be mentioning him in the same sentence with Dak who only had one bad game all preseason and regular season. Any RB is capable of having one great game and Smith was running behind one of the great OLs ever, the Hogs. They could completely control the line of scrimmage and did so against Denver in the SB. Granted Dak surprised but there were people around the NFL including Jon Gruden who were high on him coming out of college. With the OL and talent we have on offense, I can only see Dak getting better.

He set the bar so high for himself his rookie season, it's going to be difficult for him to maintain such a high level of consistency next season but I don't expect a huge drop off. Health permitting I can see him throwing 30+ TD's with 7-9 INT's. I do think his INT's will go up some due to taking more chances down the field. I believe we'll open things up for him more next season which could lower his consistency a little but it will result in more yards and TD passes. We need to add some explosiveness to the offense and produce more big plays.
 
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Cowboys can't win games that matter is more like it, QB efficency has nothing to do with it or the reason why we lost or won..all it means is that he completing passes could be a 1 yrd pass could be a 50yrd pass how does this in any way show that's how we win games..although I agree dak and zeke did compliment eachothere well but as individuals zeke over dak any day

They haven't been able to win games that matter for 21 years and it's been mostly due to the defense that can't produce a consistent pass rush in the playoffs and make critical stops. This is what cost us against Green Bay in the playoffs. Our QB situation had nothing to do with us getting knocked off by Green Bay.
 

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So are you...just diff reasons. But the results don't change 2 diff qb player at very high levels and two times they failed..who should stay and who should go? Neither and Romo should be starting if he is healthy

The guy that should go is the aging QB who can't stay healthy and is making too much money to be a backup. Romo can't be relied on anymore and it's time to move on.
 

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Timmy Smith did virtually nothing until that SB. He appeared in 6 games that season and never rushed for more than 72 yards until the SB. That game was clearly a fluke, he was nothing more than a "one game" wonder so I wouldn't be mentioning him in the same sentence with Dak who only had one bad game all preseason and regular season. Any RB is capable of having one great game and Smith was running behind one of the great OLs ever, the Hogs. They could completely control the line of scrimmage and did so against Denver in the SB. Granted Dak surprised but there were people around the NFL including Jon Gruden who were high on him coming out of college. With the OL and talent we have on offense, I can only see Dak getting better.

He set the bar so high for himself his rookie season, it's going to be difficult for him to maintain such a high level of consistency next season but I don't expect a huge drop off. Health permitting I can see him throwing 30+ TD's with 7-9 INT's. I do think his INT's will go up some due to taking more chances down the field. I believe we'll open things up for him more next season which could lower his consistency a little but it will result in more yards and TD passes. We need to add some explosiveness to the offense and produce more big plays.
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