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Jimz31 said:
One could say that their best defense was their offense.

Maybe we should hire a military guy to run our team.

I wish I could go in time and pick General Patton's brain, or send Bill there for a couple hours
 

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summerisfunner said:
I like it

I think this is the most comfortable BIll is with this team, and O in general, that we should see more aggressiveness throughout and during games IMO
Not just the O though. Turn the defense loose too. Let them come after the ball carrier and the QB. I'd like to see more blitzing, and all kinds of things that mix an offense up.

The idea is to always make the other team react to what we are doing rather than reacting to what they are doing.

No retreat, no surrender. It would be a great brand of football and we have the weapons on O, and depth on D to pull it off.
 

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Not just the O though. Turn the defense loose too. Let them come after the ball carrier and the QB. I'd like to see more blitzing, and all kinds of things that mix an offense up.

The idea is to always make the other team react to what we are doing rather than reacting to what they are doing.

No retreat, no surrender. It would be a great brand of football and we have the weapons on O, and depth on D to pull it off.

:bow: just BIll is holding Zimmer back from letting go of his creative juices, I hope it's just because it's preseason
 

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Not just the O though. Turn the defense loose too. Let them come after the ball carrier and the QB. I'd like to see more blitzing, and all kinds of things that mix an offense up.

The idea is to always make the other team react to what we are doing rather than reacting to what they are doing.

No retreat, no surrender. It would be a great brand of football and we have the weapons on O, and depth on D to pull it off.

DING! DING! DING! We need to quit allowing other teams to dictate the game to us. That was my biggest problem with this team for the last....I don't know how many years.

The "Bend but don't break" defense is a defense where you react to what THEY are doing....just get after them. I see some of the wisdom in doing it, however, to a point. But we played the entire last couple of seasons that way....if not the whole last decade. Whcih garnered us what? ONE freakin' playoff appearance.
 

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I believe Bill would prefer 60-40 run with the pass plays being big hitters to Glenn and TO. Basically back off the defense and pick at them with Julius and Barber than make them pay when they come up.

This is the most talented team we have had since 1995. That much is painfully clear.

Can we stay healthy? Can we execute? Not sure about that but the talent is in place to win.

I think BP would prefer to run but will take what defenses give him. He isn't gonna pound into 8 man fronts or pass into the nickel and dime without good reason.
 

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I believe Bill would prefer 60-40 run with the pass plays being big hitters to Glenn and TO. Basically back off the defense and pick at them with Julius and Barber than make them pay when they come up.

This is the most talented team we have had since 1995. That much is painfully clear.

Can we stay healthy? Can we execute? Not sure about that but the talent is in place to win.

I think BP would prefer to run but will take what defenses give him. He isn't gonna pound into 8 man fronts or pass into the nickel and dime without good reason.
How talented are we if our o-line doesn't hold up though....they are still my biggest concern.
 

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Jimz31 said:
DING! DING! DING! We need to quit allowing other teams to dictate the game to us. That was my biggest problem with this team for the last....I don't know how many years.

The "Bend but don't break" defense is a defense where you react to what THEY are doing....just get after them. I see some of the wisdom in doing it, however, to a point. But we played the entire last couple of seasons that way....if not the whole last decade. Whcih garnered us what? ONE freakin' playoff appearance.
Trust me when I say this, players usually meet expectations. Let me explain.

If a Coach goes for it on 4th down in a pressure situation the team will always love it. Why? Because they see it as a vote of confidence. If a team is allowed to play sandlot football (hope that description doesn't make anyone misunderstand) they get the same vibe.

If however, the Coach is always conservative, the team does get the idea that he fears them screwing up in a crucial situation.

Consider it a self fulfilling prophecy. It's like the parent who has a kid at the dinner table. If you tell the kid "don't spill your milk," they spill it. Keep your mouth shut and they don't spill the milk. It's like you put the idea there so it makes it more likely to happen.

Parcells is a master at the psyche game. The question is, can he use that to psyche the other team? No doubt he gets results from his players with it. The trick is to get in the heads of the other team.

I think Martz (your example) does that. Teams are always wary of the deep throw and that means they are on their heels and big plays beat them. Even if it happens in front of the defender because in trying to recover they are out of position.
 

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Jimz31 said:
DING! DING! DING! We need to quit allowing other teams to dictate the game to us. That was my biggest problem with this team for the last....I don't know how many years.

The "Bend but don't break" defense is a defense where you react to what THEY are doing....just get after them. I see some of the wisdom in doing it, however, to a point. But we played the entire last couple of seasons that way....if not the whole last decade. Whcih garnered us what? ONE freakin' playoff appearance.

hate to quibble but we have been in four times in the last decade, 96, 98. 99 and 03.
 

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jterrell said:
I believe Bill would prefer 60-40 run with the pass plays being big hitters to Glenn and TO. Basically back off the defense and pick at them with Julius and Barber than make them pay when they come up.

This is the most talented team we have had since 1995. That much is painfully clear.

Can we stay healthy? Can we execute? Not sure about that but the talent is in place to win.

I think BP would prefer to run but will take what defenses give him. He isn't gonna pound into 8 man fronts or pass into the nickel and dime without good reason.
Man I hope not JT. I don't think we have the RBs to pull that off. I like them, but they aren't an Emmitt or LT who can punish teams over and oveer and over.

No team can throw and 8 man front if they have to cover a lot of pass options. It can't be done.
 

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With our defence, we can afford to go all out on offence because we don't need to churn up the clock out of fear we will be scored on if we don't.
 

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Hostile said:
Trust me when I say this, players usually meet expectations. Let me explain.

If a Coach goes for it on 4th down in a pressure situation the team will always love it. Why? Because they see it as a vote of confidence. If a team is allowed to play sandlot football (hope that description doesn't make anyone misunderstand) they get the same vibe.

If however, the Coach is always conservative, the team does get the idea that he fears them screwing up in a crucial situation.

Consider it a self fulfilling prophecy. It's like the parent who has a kid at the dinner table. If you tell the kid "don't spill your milk," they spill it. Keep your mouth shut and they don't spill the milk. It's like you put the idea there so it makes it more likely to happen.

Parcells is a master at the psyche game. The question is, can he use that to psyche the other team? No doubt he gets results from his players with it. The trick is to get in the heads of the other team.

I think Martz (your example) does that. Teams are always wary of the deep throw and that means they are on their heels and big plays beat them. Even if it happens in front of the defender because in trying to recover they are out of position.

I understand what you are saying, but think back to last year...remember the players being vocal about being allowed to open it up? He allowed it against the Eagles. They began being vocal about it about a week and a half prior to the game.
 

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I would love to see us remain aggressive the whole game. I think for the most part we will be until the fourth quarter. Doesn't BP have some crazy record like 50-3 going into the fourth with a 10 point lead? That's when I think he will put the passing attack on the shelf and play "prevent" D much to the chagrin of most fans and players.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan said:
With our defence, we can afford to go all out on offence because we don't need to churn up the clock out of fear we will be scored on if we don't.
That's exactly what I am saying.

This defense is capable of giving us critical 3 and outs. If the O goes for it and a drop or overthrow misses on 3rd down. Simply tell the D to shut them down and give us the ball back.

They'll rise to the expectations of them.
 

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Jimz31 said:
I understand what you are saying, but think back to last year...remember the players being vocal about being allowed to open it up? He allowed it against the Eagles. They began being vocal about it about a week and a half prior to the game.
Yep. The players responded to the trust placed in them. They will again and this time we have better weapons to to do it.
 

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hate to quibble but we have been in four times in the last decade, 96, 98. 99 and 03.

I understand that...I was referring to BP tenure with Dallas. I should have said anything about "decade".
 

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Yep. The players responded to the trust placed in them. They will again and this time we have better weapons to to do it.
Here's what scares me...the first time that the players have a flat game in a game-plan that was designed to be "open", BP will/may revert back to his typical game-plan.....and he'd use it later in the season when reporters ask him about opening it back up again.
 

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Jimz31 said:
Here's what scares me...the first time that the players have a flat game in a game-plan that was designed to be "open", BP will/may revert back to his typical game-plan.....and he'd use it later in the season when reporters ask him about opening it back up again.
Couldn't agree more.

I can almost hear him, "we run the risk of losing the players."

Run the friggin' risk! They'll rise to the expectations placed on them.

The team theme this year is "Who's all in?" I think the team wants to be. Will he allow them to be? That remains to be answered.
 

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Jimz31 said:
How talented are we if our o-line doesn't hold up though....they are still my biggest concern.
OL is a key but its only part of the equation.

The talent elsewhere doesn't go away.
 

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Hostile said:
That's exactly what I am saying.

This defense is capable of giving us critical 3 and outs. If the O goes for it and a drop or overthrow misses on 3rd down. Simply tell the D to shut them down and give us the ball back.

They'll rise to the expectations of them.

Right on all counts, Hos. I can't wait to see this D play in the regular season when they don't have to play a vanilla-style defense. Philly's Jim Johnson (Def. Coord.) lets his D pressure offenses all the time, and now Dallas has the personnel to give offenses the same kind of nightmares.

As far as the offense is concerned, keep the pedal to the metal until the game is over. With our weapons in the passing game, JJ & MBIII are going to have great seasons tearing up the field without the "box" set up to stop them. Health permitting, this team is ready to dominate.
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Man I hope not JT. I don't think we have the RBs to pull that off. I like them, but they aren't an Emmitt or LT who can punish teams over and oveer and over.

No team can throw and 8 man front if they have to cover a lot of pass options. It can't be done.
Actually Hos putting those 2 together is why I expect it to work as I suggested.

Teams will be scared to put 8 and be hesitant to even put 7 in the box. They'll have backers peeling back into the flats and generally scared to death of getting hit over the top by Glenn and TO.

When that happens Bill will just gash them with Julius and Barber. Julius has 3 games of 190+ yards. He can gash folks when you aren't keying on him and he is healthy. Barber has also shown he can flat play. We aren't the Eagles. We have two solid backs. Thompson will likely get a few snaps as well and if he gets a seam that kid is just scary fast.

Football goes through phases but it seldom really changes and BP changes not at all.

He'll run when the defense dictates that and pass when the defense dictates it. Last season we were handicapped in some areas and couldn't run at all so we tried to force passes and that ended up in sacks.

The 2 TE offense should really benefit the running game because we'll be balanced. This team is good enough to do what it wants and will take advantage of the schemes we face. Soem teams will challenge us for sure but many more will simply not be good enough to stop the offense. My main concern right now is special teams.
 
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