Okay Folks, Be Honest With Me

[Hostile]

Actually Hos putting those 2 together is why I expect it to work as I suggested.

Teams will be scared to put 8 and be hesitant to even put 7 in the box. They'll have backers peeling back into the flats and generally scared to death of getting hit over the top by Glenn and TO.

When that happens Bill will just gash them with Julius and Barber. Julius has 3 games of 190+ yards. He can gash folks when you aren't keying on him and he is healthy. Barber has also shown he can flat play. We aren't the Eagles. We have two solid backs. Thompson will likely get a few snaps as well and if he gets a seam that kid is just scary fast.

Football goes through phases but it seldom really changes and BP changes not at all.

He'll run when the defense dictates that and pass when the defense dictates it. Last season we were handicapped in some areas and couldn't run at all so we tried to force passes and that ended up in sacks.

The 2 TE offense should really benefit the running game because we'll be balanced. This team is good enough to do what it wants and will take advantage of the schemes we face. Soem teams will challenge us for sure but many more will simply not be good enough to stop the offense. My main concern right now is special teams.

I call it cycles. If you aren't leading the cycle, then you're just riding in the peleton with no expectations.

Parcells can lead the pack and make teams react to his team, or he can do what he's done since he got here and gameplan the way everyone knows how to play and just needs to execute. Then if a team is executing they'll be close to us and in position to win it all with a right break.

Jimmy once said, "they're brass." I wanna see some brass.

 

[Da Hammer]

With how our Offense has looked so far, if Parcells plays up to the strenght of the team then we have a chance to lead the NFL in Passing yards this season right up there with the Colts who will also have to rely most likely heavily on the run this year. like i said many times we just look so far like an average to below average football team at running the ball. Parcells will obviously try to get the run game going but if it doesnt get better (which i dont think it will) then he better not be afraid to pass it a lot

 

[jterrell]

I call it cycles. If you aren't leading the cycle, then you're just riding in the peleton with no expectations.

Parcells can lead the pack and make teams react to his team, or he can do what he's done since he got here and gameplan the way everyone knows how to play and just needs to execute. Then if a team is executing they'll be close to us and in position to win it all with a right break.

Jimmy once said, "they're brass." I wanna see some brass.

But Jimmy(Norv really) ran 7 different offensive plays and we simply ran when they had 7 in the box and passed when we had 8. lol. That was all we did.


The cycles come about based on whoever's winning at the time. Nothing more than that really.

Tuna is at the forefront of the latest era of offenses going 2 TE and defenses going 3-4. Again, only because his disciple was killing them in NE with it.

Its a copycat league but the best players still win games 90% of the time.

When you don't have talent you use tricks. When you have talent you simply play smart football and win games. Its not like Parcells has never won before.


My guess is you'll feel alot better late Sept 10th

 

[Bob Sacamano]

But Jimmy(Norv really) ran 7 different offensive plays and we simply ran when they had 7 in the box and passed when we had 8. lol. That was all we did.


The cycles come about based on whoever's winning at the time. Nothing more than that really.

Tuna is at the forefront of the latest era of offenses going 2 TE and defenses going 3-4. Again, only because his disciple was killing them in NE with it.

Its a copycat league but the best players still win games 90% of the time.

When you don't have talent you use tricks. When you have talent you simply play smart football and win games. Its not like Parcells has never won before.


My guess is you'll feel alot better late Sept 10th

remember we used to run alot of flea-flickers? it's a great play every once in a while, but if that's you're only avenue of producing a big play, you got some problems

and although too young to really remember '92 and '93, I read that we were pretty conservative on D, not alot of fancy game-planning

 

[Hostile]

But Jimmy(Norv really) ran 7 different offensive plays and we simply ran when they had 7 in the box and passed when we had 8. lol. That was all we did.


The cycles come about based on whoever's winning at the time. Nothing more than that really.

Tuna is at the forefront of the latest era of offenses going 2 TE and defenses going 3-4. Again, only because his disciple was killing them in NE with it.

Its a copycat league but the best players still win games 90% of the time.

When you don't have talent you use tricks. When you have talent you simply play smart football and win games. Its not like Parcells has never won before.


My guess is you'll feel alot better late Sept 10th

I disagree on that to an extent. There is always a team that leads the cycle. That does it first that the rest copy. They are usually the only one successful at the cycle or phase or trend and that's why the cycles return to normal.

All I'm saying is lead the cycle. Be the front runner.

 

[chinch]

If a Coach goes for it on 4th down in a pressure situation the team will always love it. Why? Because they see it as a vote of confidence. If a team is allowed to play sandlot football (hope that description doesn't make anyone misunderstand) they get the same vibe.

If however, the Coach is always conservative, the team does get the idea that he fears them screwing up in a crucial situation.

Consider it a self fulfilling prophecy. It's like the parent who has a kid at the dinner table. If you tell the kid "don't spill your milk," they spill it.

Yah... lets play sandlot football.

Come on.

The defense will love it too right if they fail to convert and give up a quick TD?

 

[jterrell]

I disagree on that to an extent. There is always a team that leads the cycle. That does it first that the rest copy. They are usually the only one successful at the cycle or phase or trend and that's why the cycles return to normal.

All I'm saying is lead the cycle. Be the front runner.

We are.

We are running 2 TE and a 3-4 defense.
The 2 TE set is the new fad offense.

If we win folks will copycat us and we will have lead the cycle. If some 4-3 team wins teams will assume thats better.

Leading cycles simply means winning.

There was nothing original or especially tricky about the Dallas O of the 90s. It just worked.

Norv has sucked everywhere else he has been and Campo hasn't exactly skyrocketed to the top of Defensive Coordinators.

 

[ZeroClub]

Being innovative is good as long as the innovation is good.

 

[wileedog]

Football goes through phases but it seldom really changes and BP changes not at all.

Uh I think there is a point you are all missing here.

Look again who holds the record for most pass attempts in a season. Look again who that guy's coach was.

Bill has a philosophy, no doubt, but in the end he will play to the strengths that he has.

Glenn/Owen/Witten are as deadly a trio as there is in the league. Bledsoe with time can hit them all day long.

Bill himself said a few weeks ago something to the effect of "Only a fool doesn't use the weapons he has" when asked about Owens.

We will run the ball this year, and we will sometimes stuff it into the teeth of a defense ready for it. BUt Saying that Bill doesn't change has been proven to be not true. If all we can do is throw, we will throw.

 

[Jimz31]

OL is a key but its only part of the equation.

The talent elsewhere doesn't go away.

Ahhh, but the talent is most certainly diminished as far as what it can do if the o-line crumbles....

You could have the best QB, RB, WR's and TE's on one team, but if the o-line doesn't do their job, they are nothing more than a run of the mill TEAM.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Hos - I believe this team will rise to its strengths and Parcells will not harness it.

Mainly because of the defense.

Last year this team was making a transistion. We were implimenting a new defensive scheme with not all the correct pieces in place.

So if we get into a shootout with another team, we ultimately risk running out of gas late in games.

See the Denver contest of 2005.

This season we have strength at most defensive positions with a good selection of back-up players.

We also have a healthy Julius Jones and weapons in the passing game we did not have last year.

Ball control is a wonderful thing, if you have to play it.

But the potential for a quick strike offense with the skill positions available to Parcells may mean he will take a page from Jimmy's book.

If you truly reflect on the 1992-1995 Cowboys, you will notice they passed to get the lead, then sat on it with Emmitt grinding out yards.

This team may get up early and let the defense grind on the other team's offense.

Thoroughbred horses want to run. And while the only yardstick we have is against an uninterested Seattle team, and two lottery teams.

This offense look to have a very high ceiling once all the pieces are healthy and in place.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Hos - I believe this team will rise to its strengths and Parcells will not harness it.

Mainly because of the defense.

Absolutely. When Parcells can trust his D, he trusts his O.

 

[SloppyOctopuss]

Do you see this offense as a ball control, run first offense?

I don't and this is without TO in the lineup yet.

It just seems to me that the players want to be turned loose and they have the skills to run it up.

It's no secret that Parcell's loves to play the smashmouth, ball control type of games. But he has to seriously be considering a change of philosophy based on the preseason and the success that Bledsoe and Glenn are having thus far. Even last year before Floz went down our offense was putting up some very good numbers.

I'm still apprehensive about our running game, it looks like we have 3 solid young backs, but who is going to step to the plate and assume the 'starter' role? We'd all love to see Julius Jones obviously, but my money is on Barber right now, he seems more of a threat in the passing game and that's crucial in a pass oriented offense.

Personally I hate the play it close, run the ball and eat clock philosophy. We need to air it out first and jump on teams. Then in the 2nd half we can tee off defensively and run the football, this isn't rocket science here....

 

[billknows]

I think the great thing is it can be either. It can and will pound the ball and pound the ball and take time off the clock, but a quick strike to Witten for 15 yards, or a bomb to Glenn for 50 is just a play away. Brutally efficient was what came to my mind watching them tonight.

What would people do if they knew that we were airball freaks

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Do you see this offense as a ball control, run first offense?

I don't and this is without TO in the lineup yet.

It just seems to me that the players want to be turned loose and they have the skills to run it up.

Not sure...we played the Hawks with a couple of starters on the DLine missing, New Orleans and San Fransisco.

I know it is preseason...but this offense looks like it will put up points.

- Mike G.