OL is the primary problem

[thunderpimp91]

What I'm saying is that we don't need to keep using 1st round picks on the OL. Terrance Steele should not be on this roster in 2025. Put Guyton at RT and maybe he thrives. At some point we have to see what Bass and Hoffman can do in the starting lineup. Maybe they suck, maybe they rise to the challenge. I'm for giving this young OL a chance to get and grow together. But we have to use premium picks on other positions on this team, specifically the DL.

I agree that they need to do a better job of targeting other positions in round 1, but I promise you if go into the season with Bass/Hoffman both starting you're in trouble. Bass seems OK when I watch his film, but OK doesn't improve the OL...Steele is OK, but OK gets beat often in this league. Hoffman didn't beat out a mid round rookie C who was switching positions, he is a depth player who got put on the Jerry Jones hype machine because he wanted to go cheap at the C position before the draft. Plus he is a free agent after this year and probably requires a raise. There seems to be a sweet spot in the draft where you can find value on OL, especially interior OL on day 2 of the draft, like they did with Beebe. Moving on from Steele leaves you with $13+Million in dead cap space so its unlikely that he will be gone until after 2025.

Ultimately the Cowboys need to aim higher if they want better production out of the OL. It doesnt have to be another 1st round pick, but they probably need to invest in another pick in the round 2-4 range, and really need to look at spending money to bring in a veteran Center. Move Beebe to G which I think is his better position and is the higher value position. A FA Center is likely to cost you $10M per year or less unless you go with the top guy.

Guyton/Smith/FA/Beebe/Steele with Bass as your interior depth and a mid round rookie competing as your swing tackle and I doubt it happens but I'd let him compete with Steele. The big piece here is Guyton improving from year 1 to 2....I think it'll happen, but if it doesn't this OL is screwed yet again.

 

[starfan1]

Drafting another 1st round OL is insanity at this point


Focus needs to be on the front 7 of the defense

Id argue safety is now becoming a need as well.

 

[starfan1]

Steele has not returned to pre-injury form and doesn't look like he ever will

Martin's best days are way behind him, I would try to move him for a late pick at this point

Two rookies starting and one is really struggling

Leupke missed several pickups in pass protection when the Lions used line stunts

Fire Solari, the guy has shown nothing since he got here

Steele was never a great pass rusher to begin with.He wasn't horrible but his strength was run blocking. Now post injury he is terrible at 1 and average at the other. Martin is going downhill but he at least he cashed in before he regressed. (of all the people jerry has paid I cant get too upset with him). The rooks will get better but I feel like alot of the problem are on Steels side. Now Guyton has been getting abused a bit as well.

 

[Chasing6]

How is the ol so bad? Can’t run block. Can’t pass block. Dak is not good enough to win without some type of run game- not many qbs are. Ol is playing pathetic

It is the same problem on defense. The Dline is the problem.

Jerry has built this team from the outside in and it is why we are soft.

 

[starfan1]

They certainly need to improve. I was surprised that Detroit dominated them.

I myself don't believe using the Detroit as barometer is going to be how this team performs the rest of the year. They had a lot to play for and were emotionally high. They circled the date the cowboys were just there.

 

[Chasing6]

I myself don't believe using the Detroit as barometer is going to be how this team performs the rest of the year. They had a lot to play for and were emotionally high. They circled the date the cowboys were just there.

Which is exactly what happens in the playoffs.

 

[starfan1]

Which is exactly what happens in the playoffs.

it certainly can you're not wrong. was it a talent problem ? a coaching problem? or a scheme problem? Maybe all of the above but this is a week to week league.the defense was playing scrubs so i get that but this teams make up is not that much different than last year when they beat them. You cant convince me Tyler B and Tyron smith make all the difference from 1 year because the defense got rolled last year as well.

 

[Whyjerry]

I think the DL is overwhelmly the biggest issue and that predates the injuries. The talent level is abysmal and they have no depth.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I myself don't believe using the Detroit as barometer is going to be how this team performs the rest of the year. They had a lot to play for and were emotionally high. They circled the date the cowboys were just there.

I want this to be true, but 4 of the last 7 games all have been pretty similar.

 

[gtb1943]

Steele is the one I am most concerned about; it seems clear he is not going to return to what he was
and we signed him to a long term contract
Martin is clearly failing; his back must be a lot worse than anyone wants to admit
and a bad back is simply kryptonite to a lineman
Bass might be able to do a good job at Guard but we got nothing to replace Steele

 

[Chasing6]

it certainly can you're not wrong. was it a talent problem ? a coaching problem? or a scheme problem? Maybe all of the above but this is a week to week league.the defense was playing scrubs so i get that but this teams make up is not that much different than last year when they beat them. You cant convince me Tyler B and Tyron smith make all the difference from 1 year because the defense got rolled last year as well.

Without Pollard and our current no name has been RB committee, there is zero threat in the run game.

Even though we did not run the ball well last year, Pollard was still a threat.

 

[Chasing6]

At this point you could make the argument that every RB on the Niners team is better than all of ours.

 

[KJJ]

The OL is a problem but the DL is way bigger problem. We’re getting manhandled on both sides of the ball. The main reason the defense is so bad is because of the players upfront. Both the offense and defense have regressed badly from last season.

 

[Chasing6]

The OL is a problem but the DL is way bigger problem. We’re getting manhandled on both sides of the ball. Both the offense and defense have regressed badly from last season.

GM Jethro built a 7 on 7 team. You have to remember it is a passing league.

 

[MyFairLady]

Very few players on this team are capable of winning their 1 on 1 battles consistently.

Agreed.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

How is the ol so bad? Can’t run block. Can’t pass block. Dak is not good enough to win without some type of run game- not many qbs are. Ol is playing pathetic

I think its that plus bad blocking scheme. I watched some of the game against detroit. the OL tends to want to double players because they can't handle them 1-1 and get any push and that allows DL men or LBs to run to the back field free.

its bad...really bad.

 

[buybuydandavis]

How is the ol so bad? Can’t run block. Can’t pass block. Dak is not good enough to win without some type of run game- not many qbs are. Ol is playing pathetic

I've heard that the Expected Yards stat on run plays is 4.4 for the season. Not great, but not a glaring problem either.

Meawhile, Dowdle runs at 4.2ypc - less than average, while Zeke is at 3.0 ypc, about the bottom of the league for RBs with qualifying number of snaps.

 

[buybuydandavis]

The OL is a problem but the DL is way bigger problem. We’re getting manhandled on both sides of the ball. The main reason the defense is so bad is because of the players upfront. Both the offense and defense have regressed badly from last season.

The best dlinemen got hurt, the worst stayed healthy.

 

[Proof]

Two rookies and Steele not the same since surgery. It's not great. A lot of turnovers though and those aren't all due to pressure.

i think i read that steele is the second worst rated lineman in football this year, or something to that effect. uncanny. what i want to know, is how cooper beebe was being DOGWALKED all game

 

[Blitzen]

No, it is WR.

If they had any other player that could get open, the quick passing game would work and then defenses wouldn't be able to play downhill the entire game. They simply double CD and have no respect for anybody else.

The OL has had its struggles, but the biggest issue is that there is simply no spacing because this passing game can't get vertical.

Only teams with two number one receivers have success on offense.