Only four players remain from 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 Drafts

[weaver21]

So should I run it by you every time I want to make a thread?

You can do whatever you want, man. I'm just confused on why you make these threads about being depressed and talking about the Cowboys failures. But hey, if makes you happy, keep making them.

 

[Zordon]

You can do whatever you want, man. I'm just confused on why you make these threads about being depressed and talking about the Cowboys failures. But hey, if makes you happy, keep making them.

The other thread was about money. This thread is about drafts. Maybe next time I will make a thread about what's REALLY holding the Cowboys back like bad luck, the evil media, or John Mara.

 

[Idgit]

What do you suppose is the average length of an NFL player's career? 3.5 years or so?

We definitely are paying a price for the poor 2009 draft right now. I don't imagine those percentages from drafts prior to that are all that bad looking across the league, though. My guess would be there are a handful of teams clobbering the curve, and then a lot of them in Dallas' boat when it comes to retaining talent after rookie contracts expire.

 

[CowboysNumeroUno]

What do you suppose is the average length of an NFL player's career? 3.5 years or so?

We definitely are paying a price for the poor 2009 draft right now. I don't imagine those percentages from drafts prior to that are all that bad looking across the league, though. My guess would be there are a handful of teams clobbering the curve, and then a lot of them in Dallas' boat when it comes to retaining talent after rookie contracts expire.

This. A comparison with some other 'well run' teams would be interesting.

 

[MaineBoy]

IT'S ANNOYING. How many times can I repeat this? You guys act like some of us are blind and don't see the troubles and failures about this team when in fact we do. The difference is we don't want to discuss it every second and instead discuss how this team can improve and win a damn Super Bowl.

Yah, almost as annoying are people who can't handle a dose of reality and attack the messenger. YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH ! Now back to lala land where we can pretend this team is only two healthy players away from a Super Bowl. In the playoffs, did you see the part where those teams could hike the ball more than 5 times in a row without a procedure penalty or barely getting the ball snapped ?

 

[jnday]

This isn't a legitmate Cowboys thread, this another one of your depressing threads that points out all the Cowboys failures the last seven years which everyone knows about. We get it man, you're depressed and hate the Jones' family, but there's no need to make a thread about everything the Cowboys have done wrong the last seven years.

What do you want to talk about? The playoffs that the Cowboys didn't get to play in or the Super Bowl that they watched on TV? Maybe last year or the year before? No, that's no good. The great running game? The great defense? Ahhh...that is a no go as well.

 

[jnday]

This. A comparison with some other 'well run' teams would be interesting.

I have a feeling that those stats would produce more angry post at the poster that provides them. Post them at your own risk.

 

[weaver21]

What do you want to talk about? The playoffs that the Cowboys didn't get to play in or the Super Bowl that they watched on TV? Maybe last year or the year before? No, that's no good. The great running game? The great defense? Ahhh...that is a no go as well.

Are you kidding me with this garbage? How about talking about the upcoming draft and what players can help us improve our team? How about talking about how if this team stays healthy and can add some pieces, there's a chance they can contend and compete in the playoffs and possibly win a Super Bowl? There's plenty of things to talk about, man.

 

[Zordon]

Are you kidding me with this garbage? How about talking about the upcoming draft and what players can help us improve our team?

That's ironic since you haven't posted in the draft zone since 4-28-2012. Want to guess how many posts I have in there since that time?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

2006 was 7 years ago. What is the average length of an NFL player's career? How many players on average do teams retain from that time frame?

Do you even bother to ask yourself these questions or do you just sit around and try and guess at ways that demonstrate how we suck?

Another one for the ignore list.

 

[weaver21]

Yah, almost as annoying are people who can't handle a dose of reality and attack the messenger. YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH ! Now back to lala land where we can pretend this team is only two healthy players away from a Super Bowl. In the playoffs, did you see the part where those teams could hike the ball more than 5 times in a row without a procedure penalty or barely getting the ball snapped ?

I can handle the truth, buddy. I just don't wallow in the past and talk about the troubles and failures in the past several seasons. It's like some of you actually has some kind of sick enjoyment talking about it. Do you think I enjoy this crap? Do you think I enjoy seeing our team be the laughing stock of the league? Of course not. But I choose to not sit and talk about the past and focus on the future and how our team can improve.

 

[Zordon]

This. A comparison with some other 'well run' teams would be interesting.

I know the packers have 13 remaining from those drafts. I think the Niners have something like 7 or 8. Giants drafted several players that are still in the league but only 5-6 that are still on the roster.

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

Yep! when face with fact and the truth, attack the person who reminded you why the team is in this mess. the bar for this team is so low now that it's just sad.

If historically this was a losing team, I might accept it, but the Cowboys usually have been much, much better.

I would accept the current State of the Cowboys if this was the best they could do. As long as the owner refuses to replace himself with a professional GM, it's not the best the Cowboys can do, and he deserves the heat here and elsewhere.

We could literally say with the redundancy of failures it's scientifically proven Jerry Jones is not GM material.

 

[Gameover]

...for not limiting your criticism to the 2009 draft.Most fail to realize 2008 was worse.

Add 2004 to the discussion aswell!

 

[udas]

This is a crazy argument, most teams don't have more than 1 or 2 players on their team remaining from each of these draft years. After this off-season it could be even less. In a single draft year if you can get 3 quality long term starters in one draft you had a terrifc draft. 2009 was an awful draft year but they didn't draft to the 3rd round what did you expect? 2006 was a bad draft year, 2007 was average(would be good if free didnt drop off), and 2008 was decent. The last three drafts seem to have netted some good players based on early returns and hopefully they continue to develop. The short of it, I think our draft issues are over blown, but I do agree that we have passed on some players in the middle rounds that could have been better fits. First round hasn't been too bad considering the majority of these players don't end up making an impact.

 

[udas]

...for not limiting your criticism to the 2009 draft.Most fail to realize 2008 was worse.

Add 2004 to the discussion aswell!

2009 was far worse considering the trades we made. 2008 did not net us superstars but we got several players that did make plays and at times made an impact. Looking at the first round after we drafted in 2008 is there anyone else besides Duane Brown who would have been a better pick that we were actually targeting?

 

[Eskimo]

The OP has a point.

Ideally you would have found some core members for your team who are right in the middle of their career peaks before they are about to decline. I think it is fair to say the guys from the 2006 draft have probably started their decline while the 2007 guys are at their peak.

The big benefit to drafting some really good players is the chance to extend them to cap friendly deals before they hit FA and their prices go through the roof. It doesn't do nearly as much good to have drafted well long ago if you haven't converted those drafts into quality extensions. On that list of players from 2006-9 we only got one guy on what I consider to be a cap-friendly extension, Hatcher. That is also only because no one else in the league seemed to want him. We actually gave Spears more money in that same FA year showing how badly we misjudged it ourselves and lucked out into him finally turning the corner after signing that deal. Spencer is playing at a level commensurate to his franchise tag so he is okay but we can't seem to get him to sign a long-term deal under terms we find reasonable. Free and Scandrick are overpaid.

I had previously brought up the notion of those poor drafts and lack of extensions as a problem with the core of this team which was rapidly aging. Luckily we have added some very good players in the last 3 drafts but seem to have a problem with the injury bug. I had pointed out that we haven't improved much despite these drafts because our older BP players were declining and we had no one really in their primes. We had to draft good just not to get worse. Now the tide may begin to turn as the players from the last 3 drafts start to mature and form the new core. I just hope we get some better health and do a better job addressing depth with youngsters and cheap vets. I also hope we do a better job of avoiding bad deals like Free and Rat's second extension.

 

[Idgit]

The OP has a point.

Ideally you would have found some core members for your team who are right in the middle of their career peaks before they are about to decline. I think it is fair to say the guys from the 2006 draft have probably started their decline while the 2007 guys are at their peak.

The big benefit to drafting some really good players is the chance to extend them to cap friendly deals before they hit FA and their prices go through the roof. It doesn't do nearly as much good to have drafted well long ago if you haven't converted those drafts into quality extensions. On that list of players from 2006-9 we only got one guy on what I consider to be a cap-friendly extension, Hatcher. That is also only because no one else in the league seemed to want him. We actually gave Spears more money in that same FA year showing how badly we misjudged it ourselves and lucked out into him finally turning the corner after signing that deal. Spencer is playing at a level commensurate to his franchise tag so he is okay but we can't seem to get him to sign a long-term deal under terms we find reasonable. Free and Scandrick are overpaid.

I had previously brought up the notion of those poor drafts and lack of extensions as a problem with the core of this team which was rapidly aging. Luckily we have added some very good players in the last 3 drafts but seem to have a problem with the injury bug. I had pointed out that we haven't improved much despite these drafts because our older BP players were declining and we had no one really in their primes. We had to draft good just not to get worse. Now the tide may begin to turn as the players from the last 3 drafts start to mature and form the new core. I just hope we get some better health and do a better job addressing depth with youngsters and cheap vets. I also hope we do a better job of avoiding bad deals like Free and Rat's second extension.

Agree with this, pretty much across the board. We've got a donut hole in our roster, and we're just starting to eat our way past it.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Nice point in the thread title - must be Garrett's and Romo's fault. At least that's the concensus on this forum.

Edit: The fact is, the drafting has been much better the last several years under Garrett's philosophy of focusing the rebuilding of the roster through the draft and not free agency, and also for drafting "the right kind of guys."

 

[yimyammer]

You saw the title. You moved your mouse. You clicked on the link. You then clicked to post a reply. From their you typed your complaint. Then you clicked on a button to post it.

Rinse repeat for every time you have included another post in a thread that makes you angry.

So isn't the real question why did you open the link to begin with?

Unless the OP is standing behind you with a gun to your head, it appears the problem here is you not editing your decisions and opening threads that anger you.

lol, so true, I'll never understand why people get so bent out of shape at others for expressing an opinion they don't like. Its so easy, you don't even have to ignore people, simply ignore the thread and find one you like.

There's plenty of threads here and everywhere that address just about every topic, I just read those and dont sweat the others.

To each is own I guess