Opinion: Flozell to LG

[craig71]

I think Flozell starts at LT again next season.I just don't see anybody on the roster better than him nor do I see any rookie unseating him as the starter.I also don't see a move to G in Flo's future.Flozell will grade out better as a tackle than a guard even at this point in his career.I think the only way that Flo doesn't start next season is if he's injured in camp or if Jerry goes out and brings in a high price FA.

I think Kosier gets challenged in camp by Brewster or a draft pick.Or maybe even Travis Bright will be in the mix.Kosier doesn't make many mistakes in the game but doesn't bring a big enough physical presence to the game.I think if some more bulk is added to the middle of the line it will help when facing teams like Minnesota and Washingtin with Fat Albert.

Gurode isn't going anywhere.I just can't see the staff wanting to replace a pro bowl center.

Davis isn't going anywhere either.

Columbo will get challenged in camp by Free.Columbo has a nasty streak that the line needs but i'm concerned about his injury.Previous to this year he had career threatening injury issues and now with his latest injury I think you have to be concerned.While Free doesn't have the power of Columbo he does have better mobility and I see him pushing for a starting role in camp.Some people think that Free will be a LT but I can't see it.He isn't strong enough and I don't think he will ever get strong enough.I think he's been here for three years now so I don't think he can get much stronger,he's reached his genetic peak as far as strength goes.Now what he can work on is his technique which will mask some of his lack of strength.


Craig

 

[jterrell]

Flo is far from perfect but he's been an anchor at LT for years. I don't think most fans realize how incredibly difficult the LT position is to fill.

As long as Flo can still move adequately he is better than most LTs.

It isn't a knock on Flo to suggest he move inside.

It's what the Pats tend to do: Put your best 5 OL on the field and continue to develop younger OL. Is Free as good a LT as Flo? Nope. Is Free a better LT than Kosier is a LG? I think so.

Any knock EVER against Flo has had to do with his needing to get out of his stance quickly. Move him t LG and that becomes a non-issue. He no longer deals with speed but instead power more often. Flo dominates power guys.

Flo is a very good LT but he'd be a dominating LG imho.

A move like that gives us a serious 3rd and short type advantage imho. Flo, Gurode and Bigg all in the middle means zero chance of pushing anyone back into the backfield.

 

[btcutter]

Adams is the best tackle on the team period.

Free IMO really needs to get his power up. He can pass protect, but he has no punch on running plays. I would prefer to have Free play RT and reach into a magic hat and find a dominating left tackle. :laugh2:

I would play Free at RT and move Columbo to LG. Columbo can pull and can over power at point of attack as well.

 

[btcutter]

It isn't a knock on Flo to suggest he move inside.

It's what the Pats tend to do: Put your best 5 OL on the field and continue to develop younger OL. Is Free as good a LT as Flo? Nope. Is Free a better LT than Kosier is a LG? I think so.

Any knock EVER against Flo has had to do with his needing to get out of his stance quickly. Move him t LG and that becomes a non-issue. He no longer deals with speed but instead power more often. Flo dominates power guys.

Flo is a very good LT but he'd be a dominating LG imho.

A move like that gives us a serious 3rd and short type advantage imho. Flo, Gurode and Bigg all in the middle means zero chance of pushing anyone back into the backfield.

Our best 5 from left to right: Flo, Columbo, Andre, Davis, Free

 

[craig71]

I would play Free at RT and move Columbo to LG. Columbo can pull and can over power at point of attack as well.

I don't think that Columbo would make a very good LG.I think a 6'8" G is going to have problems keeping DT's from getting under him.Once you lose leverage you've lost the battle at the point of attack.


Craig

 

[jazzcat22]

Needs to be done. We fell in love with the return of Kosier because Procter was TERRIBLE. But this guy is not the answer. Make no mistake, this guy is not starting LG material for the type of offense we want to run. Flo is still massive, he has years left on his contract, and he can help the progression of Doug Free at LT. What do you think zoners?

I think you been listening too much to the radio guys on the Fan, or what ever station was talking about this yesterday.....keep Flo, one more year, unless someone proves in camp they can replace him....keep the continuity. Flo had a nice year actually.

Not his fault he was injured...then the wheels fell off after he left the game.

 

[jterrell]

Our best 5 from left to right: Flo, Columbo, Andre, Davis, Free

The only issue I'd have there is that Free then needs to move to LT next year and Columbo needs to move back outside. So we'd be patch working constantly.

if you go:
Free, Flo, Gurode, Bigg, Columbo that line might role that way 2-3 years and then you have Brewster ready to go at OG for either Flo or Bigg but no one else moving.

 

[btcutter]

I don't think that Columbo would make a very good LG.I think a 6'8" G is going to have problems keeping DT's from getting under him.Once you lose leverage you've lost the battle at the point of attack.


Craig

Maybe. But I recall some of our G's in the 90's were HUGE. Stone who made Pro bowl and left for the Giants (pro bowl) was 6'8 or 6'9.

The height may pose problem for Romo....

 

[Marktui]

Needs to be done. We fell in love with the return of Kosier because Procter was TERRIBLE. But this guy is not the answer. Make no mistake, this guy is not starting LG material for the type of offense we want to run. Flo is still massive, he has years left on his contract, and he can help the progression of Doug Free at LT. What do you think zoners?

Flo is too tall. He would block Romo's vision of the middle of the field. He played their in the beginning but make no mistake about it, he is a left tackle. He is not the best LT, but we can see when is out of the lineup that we struggle.

I know I am in the minority, but I like Flo until they bring in someone better I think he should be our left tackle.

 

[Big Country]

Needs to be done. We fell in love with the return of Kosier because Procter was TERRIBLE. But this guy is not the answer. Make no mistake, this guy is not starting LG material for the type of offense we want to run. Flo is still massive, he has years left on his contract, and he can help the progression of Doug Free at LT. What do you think zoners?

I kind of agree on mixing things up on the OL, but remember, Dallas has some consistency of guys working together which we haven't had in a long time. That was always the Achilles heel years back with the Cowboys, not having guys familiar with each other. That inconsistency period does include the Parcells era. That group consistency is also what made KC so good on the OL back some years ago when they were blocking for Priest and LJ. If we go that route and change it up, Dallas would be best suited to go the route of the draft and draft a big stocky butted guy suited to play guard and hope he can beat out Kosier. Kosier though, is a cerebral dude and highly regarded as one of the smarter guys on our line, that helps tremendously. No doubt he gives Gurode some flexibility and help there. I don't think Flo can switch positions in a pinch and figure out how to gain the leverage needed to move the beef in the middle, he is a big, albeit long and tall guy and is best suited for OT. I believe he would have trouble with that aspect, especially with super strong dudes like Kevin W. and Pat W. We do have options since Free played well for us down the stretch, so we will only know what transpires over the course of the off-season. No need to fret about it right away.

 

[btcutter]

The only issue I'd have there is that Free then needs to move to LT next year and Columbo needs to move back outside. So we'd be patch working constantly.

if you go:
Free, Flo, Gurode, Bigg, Columbo that line might role that way 2-3 years and then you have Brewster ready to go at OG for either Flo or Bigg but no one else moving.

Here you are making a BIG assumption that Free can fill in for Flo adequetly which many of us doubt. As much as we don't like Flo, he is till pretty good. He completely neutralized Cole and Ozi and we don't even know the name of the LDE for the Skins because of him.

I feel that we need to draft our future LT in this draft if possible. Columbo isn't getting any younger either especially with his history of severe injuries to his knees and he wasn't the most athletic guy to start with. He's got grit and that mentality plays perfectly into the interior lineman.

 

[craig71]

Maybe. But I recall some of our G's in the 90's were HUGE. Stone who made Pro bowl and left for the Giants (pro bowl) was 6'8 or 6'9.

The height may pose problem for Romo....

If your talking about Ron Stone he isn't that tall.I seem to remember him being 6'4" or 6'5".

Craig

 

[EPL0c0]

:madden:

C'mon Hos, would at least be worth a look in camp IMO. Flozell would provide more beef inside to help Gurode. He wouldn't have to worry about speed rushers as much either.

Could at least be worth a look

 

[8FOR!3]

Yes, let's move our pro bowl tackle who's been playing that position for 90% of his NFL career to guard. Great idea. Because in Madden, you moved him to guard and his rating went up a couple of points, right?

I don't mean to come across that negative, I just think it's a bad idea this late in his career. Especially when he does such a good job at tackle.

 

[RS12]

How bout Iupati at LG?

 

[newlander]

............truthfully this thread sucks: because there is zero chance of this happening. None whatsoever...he's fine where he's at......for one more season.

 

[Nexx]

i like it if it would work but where does kosier go? to the bench? He is a great lineman on sweeps and screens getting out in space...

yeah but in pass protection he gets mauled and run over. seen it waaaaaay too many times. when tony gets pressure from the edges, he rarely has room to just step up in the pocket like many QB's do. instead he runs into a defensive tackle. this in turn makes our OT's look worse they are already. remember most teams best pass rushers are ends in the 4-3 and OLB's in the 3-4. rarely do team have great pass rushers in the DT postions. its inexcusable for teams to be able to pressure on romo up the gut like he gets.

on another plus, flo gets to be right next to gurode and tony, making it easier for him to hear the snap count. might help cut down his false starts.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

I think you been listening too much to the radio guys on the Fan, or what ever station was talking about this yesterday.....keep Flo, one more year, unless someone proves in camp they can replace him....keep the continuity. Flo had a nice year actually.

Not his fault he was injured...then the wheels fell off after he left the game.

not at all...my reasons are simple. Free NEEDS to play NOW. Flo can still play. Frees best position will be LT....let Free play now while you still have Flo on the team if the move is a failure

 

[burmafrd]

Kosier can be overpowered but he is so good in space and pulling. Flo would be Bigg#2 and I wonder how good an O line can be without a pulling guard.

 

[burmafrd]

I keep hearing this about Free being Best at LT. Until he conclusively proves that he is still a prospect. The best tackle prospect we have had since Flo, but still unproven really at LT. He needed help against Allen which is no shame but we have yet to see what he can do against the top fast and quick rushers.