Opinion: Looking like we'll have Scandrick

[TheCount]

Internet says there's a new drug policy. Might be announced in time to fly OScan back for the game. Certainly for week 2. That is huge!

Bit of a misleading title. All that it looks like is that the NFL is thinking about revising the policy to slot amphetamine as a "substance abuse" problem, rather than a performance enhancing problem. The difference being that performance enhancing is cheating, and thus there are no "strikes", while substance abuse has 3 strikes before suspension.

I'm not sure why people seem to be so sure that the commish is going to then retroactively cancel suspensions, especially since those things happened while the policy was still in place. That'd be like the commish going back and saying Ray Rice suspension will now be 6 games instead of 9, because they have a domestic abuse policy now.

Either way, the fact no one said a damn thing until Welker got suspended is nonsense.

 

[xwalker]

Bit of a misleading title. All that it looks like is that the NFL is thinking about revising the policy to slot amphetamine as a "substance abuse" problem, rather than a performance enhancing problem. The difference being that performance enhancing is cheating, and thus there are no "strikes", while substance abuse has 3 strikes before suspension.

I'm not sure why people seem to be so sure that the commish is going to then retroactively cancel suspensions, especially since those things happened while the policy was still in place. That'd be like the commish going back and saying Ray Rice suspension will now be 6 games instead of 9, because they have a domestic abuse policy now.

Either way, the fact no one said a damn thing until Welker got suspended is nonsense.

Ray Rice was only suspended for 2 games.

 

[xwalker]

Sweet! You think he was a crouch before. Look out!!!

crouch ?

 

[xwalker]

I doubt they'll consider fantasy football as a factor no matter how much they do want to promote or support it.

Even if the Packers and Seahawks were not directly affected by the current/previous policy, the league may say that since week 1 has officially started, it is too late to drop the current suspensions and it will have to start on week 2.

Another issue is that even if an agreement is reached, it may not be officially drawn up and signed until next week sometime, which would give the NFL a justifiable reason to hold off on dropping the suspensions until week 2. The only issue the NFLPA will have will likely be they will want the players paid for the week 1 game. The removal of suspensions for week 1 are probably of lesser importance to them in the grand scheme.

Yes, I thought about the pay issue. The NFLPA is primarily concerned with the players missing paychecks. The NFLPA could ask for the 1st week suspensions to be suspensions with pay. It seems that anything is possible in a negotiation.

 

[joseephuss]

Internet says there's a new drug policy. Might be announced in time to fly OScan back for the game. Certainly for week 2. That is huge!

Where would they be flying Scandrick back from? Is he not staying around Dallas during his suspension?

 

[big dog cowboy]

I doubt they'll consider fantasy football as a factor no matter how much they do want to promote or support it.

Depends. If Goodell has Gordon on his team already.........

 

[WoodysGirl]

Where would they be flying Scandrick back from? Is he not staying around Dallas during his suspension?

Scandrick had said that he would go back to LA to train with his personal trainer while he was suspended.

 

[Sportsbabe]

crouch ?

Typing from my phone Officer

 

[joseephuss]

Scandrick had said that he would go back to LA to train with his personal trainer while he was suspended.

Thanks.

 

[TheCount]

Ray Rice was only suspended for 2 games.

That's what I meant. I don't see how you could retroactively lower one suspension and not raise another.

 

[AbeBeta]

That's what I meant. I don't see how you could retroactively lower one suspension and not raise another.

Rice would have a serious grievance there. Not a problem if you lower one

 

[JohnsKey19]

Drug policy. Rice falls under personal conduct which is not being discussed. That's my understanding of the negotiations.

 

[TheCount]

Drug policy. Rice falls under personal conduct which is not being discussed. That's my understanding of the negotiations.

The policies aren't the issue I'm raising. I'm talking about the retroactive nature that is being discussed. A lot of people are making the assumption that a policy change on tuesday means rules that were broken on monday are forgiven. I'm not sure that would be the case.

Especially since part of the policy change supposedly includes a lowering of the number you need to hit to "test positive" for weed. What about others that have been suspended in the past and lost game checks?

 

[JohnsKey19]

The policies aren't the issue I'm raising. I'm talking about the retroactive nature that is being discussed. A lot of people are making the assumption that a policy change on tuesday means rules that were broken on monday are forgiven. I'm not sure that would be the case.

Ok got ya. To your point, D. Smith made it clear that was the NFLPA's intention in negotiations with the NFL.
Whether that happens or not, and to what extent remains to be seen.

 

[xwalker]

That's what I meant. I don't see how you could retroactively lower one suspension and not raise another.

They do it all the time in the legal system. A judge can always reduce a person sentence, but they can rarely increase the sentence once an initial sentence is imposed.

 

[xwalker]

The policies aren't the issue I'm raising. I'm talking about the retroactive nature that is being discussed. A lot of people are making the assumption that a policy change on tuesday means rules that were broken on monday are forgiven. I'm not sure that would be the case.

Especially since part of the policy change supposedly includes a lowering of the number you need to hit to "test positive" for weed. What about others that have been suspended in the past and lost game checks?

There is not some magical fairness fairy that controls the world. If the NFL and NFLPA negotiate something, then it is what it is. They are free to negotiate anything. Fairness to player in past years has minimal relevance. It would be different if the NFL was unilaterally changing the rules, but that's not what is happening. They are changing them in an agreement with the NFLPA which represents the players.

 

[xwalker]

Typing from my phone Officer

I thought maybe I was missing some new slang word.

I guess he is a grouch that likes to sit on the couch.

 

[TheCount]

There is not some magical fairness fairy that controls the world.

That's my point. Fair would be saying we goofed, all these guys are off the hook and we're just going to start this year over with the new policy. Goodell isn't about fairness.

 

[xwalker]

That's my point. Fair would be saying we goofed, all these guys are off the hook and we're just going to start this year over with the new policy. Goodell isn't about fairness.

Again, this current issue in not just about what Goddell wants, it's a negation with the NFLPA.

 

[TheCount]

Again, this current issue in not just about what Goddell wants, it's a negation with the NFLPA.

We'll see. They've been talking about this stuff since May, it's not even a recent discussion between the league and the PA. I don't see why the NFLPA would bother to throw these guys in the mix to complicate matters. I guess Welker was just the type of hostage Goodell needed to jump start this thing, maybe it's all about trading prisoners at this point.