Oregon To #3

[Doomsday101]

What does last season have to do with anything this year?

Results from last season do play a role in the rankings along with returning starters.

 

[Dallas]

I doubt the WAC offical is making it up, but none the less when Boise has faced top teams they have won and if they continue to win they will once again get a chance to play a BCS game

Nobody is talking any BCS game in this thread. It's about the NC game, which they won't sniff this year unless Bama or Oregon drop 1 which I don't see happening.

 

[viman96]

They've played more ranked teams than Oregon has.

Likely will finish the season that way as well.

But let me guess, VT doesn't count for Boise and Tennessee is so much better than a ranked Oregon St.

In short, you're saying Boise should be ranked less because their upcoming schedule isnt too tough? Not on what they have done as of now but what is likely to happen in the future?

Good, sound reasoning.

So let's assume Oregon and Boise play at their current rate and both finish undefeated then do you still think Boise should be ranked higher?

Oregon plays in a much better conference and will play more top 25 teams then Boise.

 

[Doomsday101]

Nobody is talking any BCS game in this thread. It's about the NC game, which they won't sniff this year unless Bama or Oregon drop 1 which I don't see happening.

Being ranked at #4 they are in the running If Bama and Ohio St run the table then they likely with be in the championship game but every year teams fall. So I'm not writing any of these teams out.

 

[ajk23az]

Boise State offered to pay their own way to any top ten team to play at that team's stadium. No one responded. Since SEC teams regularly pay 500k for cupcakes, what do they have to lose by having a team come to THEIR stadium and pay their own way, and not demand a home and home format?

He's speaking the truth here. I've read this multiple times. Still think Oregon would crush them though. And neither team should feel shafted.

 

[Dallas]

Being ranked at #4 they are in the running If Bama and Ohio St run the table then they likely with be in the championship game but every year teams fall. So I'm not writing any of these teams out.

I don't see Bama losing to anyone and I don't see Oregon losing to anyone. I am on the fence w/ OSU, they still have a pretty tough schedule left, not that Oregon doesn't, Im just far more impressed w/ Oregon atm.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't see Bama losing to anyone and I don't see Oregon losing to anyone. I am on the fence w/ OSU, they still have a pretty tough schedule left, not that Oregon doesn't, Im just far more impressed w/ Oregon atm.

You may not see it but it happens every year where some team drops an unexpected game. Fact is teams sitting in the top 5 right now have legit shots at making it all the way but chances are some of the top 5 will drop a game which will move some teams in the top 10 into contention.

Fact also remains until the NCAA can put some type of playoff system in place there will always be teams from big programs as well as smaller programs feel they got shafted. You seem to think Boise can just move into another conference because they want to? It is not that easy.

And lastly BYU who is in Mountain West conference also considered a weak conference has won the National Championship so I know it is possible

 

[switzersflask]

A playoff would be the worst thing in the world for Boise.

Can you imagine an 8-team playoff with the likes of Alabama, Ohio State, Oregon, Oklahoma, Nebraska, etc.?

Boise may get lucky and upset someone in the first round, but I just don't see them driving through a playoff laced with traditional powers.

 

[Doomsday101]

A playoff would be the worst thing in the world for Boise.

Can you imagine an 8-team playoff with the likes of Alabama, Ohio State, Oregon, Oklahoma, Nebraska, etc.?

Boise may get lucky and upset someone in the first round, but I just don't see them driving through a playoff laced with traditional powers.

Maybe so maybe not. Today’s college football is a bit different since schools have been limited in scholarship they can award meaning there is allot more talent out there going to some of these smaller schools.

No matter how you cut it any team out there wants the chance and a playoff gives them a chance to prove it where it counts which is on the field.

 

[switzersflask]

Maybe so maybe not. Today’s college football is a bit different since schools have been limited in scholarship they can award meaning there is allot more talent out there going to some of these smaller schools.

No matter how you cut it any team out there wants the chance and a playoff gives them a chance to prove it where it counts which is on the field.

I know what you're saying, but schools like UT, OU, Bama, and Florida still pull twice the talent that schools like Boise do.

Boise plays with a lot of heart, and a lot of bs on their schedule. If that makes sense lol.. 60% of the time, it works, every time.

 

[Dallas]

Maybe so maybe not. Today’s college football is a bit different since schools have been limited in scholarship they can award meaning there is allot more talent out there going to some of these smaller schools.

No matter how you cut it any team out there wants the chance and a playoff gives them a chance to prove it where it counts which is on the field.

I just don't see your argument. Who cares about the number of scholarships avail. It all comes down to recruiting. When has BS ever cracked the top 50 recruiting classes?

Have they ever?

 

[Doomsday101]

I know what you're saying, but schools like UT, OU, Bama, and Florida still pull twice the talent that schools like Boise do.

Boise plays with a lot of heart, and a lot of bs on their schedule. If that makes sense lol.. 60% of the time, it works, every time.

I agree the big schools still get the bigger names but this notion the worst thing for Boise is a playoff system? Come on the worst things is going undefeated knowing you will never get a chance to play in the NC game that would suck for anyone who loves to compete and I'm sure the kids at Boise love to compete and have done very well when given the chance to play top teams.

You could be right and they would not last in a playoff but at least they would go in knowing that if they can win then no one could take the NC away from them. Easiest way to say it I would rather lose on the field of play than in the data base of a computer.

 

[switzersflask]

I just don't see your argument. Who cares about the number of scholarships avail. It all comes down to recruiting. When has BS ever cracked the top 50 recruiting classes?

Have they ever?

Exactly. They may have the same amount of schollies as everyone else, but you have to actually get players to come to your school.

When it comes down to it, a traditional power will always have the upper hand when battling it out with Boise to get a 5-star recruit.

 

[Doomsday101]

I just don't see your argument. Who cares about the number of scholarships avail. It all comes down to recruiting. When has BS ever cracked the top 50 recruiting classes?

Have they ever?

It matters because some very good talent that in past years would be stowed away on bigger team, now are out there playing and in the case of Boise doing it very well. If I recall they took down the Sooners in the BCS game so don't act like they can't win they have when given the chance.

 

[switzersflask]

I agree the big schools still get the bigger names but this notion the worst thing for Boise is a playoff system? Come on the worst things is going undefeated knowing you will never get a chance to play in the NC game that would suck for anyone who loves to compete and I'm sure the kids at Boise love to compete and have done very well when given the chance to play top teams.

You could be right and they would not last in a playoff but at least they would go in knowing that if they can win then no one could take the NC away from them. Easiest way to say it I would rather lose on the field of play than in the data base of a computer.

Obviously it would be better for them to have a shot, but they would get murdered in a playoff. But as you say, better than being left out, but that's what happens when you play nobody and compete in a horrible, horrible conference.

They need to do everything in their power to persuade the Pac 10 to let them join the conference. Once they get rid of that bs turf, they may have a chance at a BCS conference. lol

 

[Doomsday101]

Exactly. They may have the same amount of schollies as everyone else, but you have to actually get players to come to your school.

When it comes down to it, a traditional power will always have the upper hand when battling it out with Boise to get a 5-star recruit.

They are still getting highly touted players they may not be 5 star players but then not all 5 star players end up being great. Bottom line is there other schools are starting to get good talent and that is why we are seeing more close games in college than ever before.

 

[Dallas]

It matters because some very good talent that in past years would be stowed away on bigger team, now are out there playing and in the case of Boise doing it very well. If I recall they took down the Sooners in the BCS game so don't act like they can't win they have when given the chance.

A squirrel gets a nut occasionaly. That's not what we are argueing. BTW: you can't use Switz argument last week w/ players being stashed, get your own argument. Do some homework.

Recruiting - Recruiting - Recruiting

Let BS have a couple of injuries...bet you don't post much then about them being some powerhouse.

Dissapear like you did last weekend in the RRS.

 

[Doomsday101]

Obviously it would be better for them to have a shot, but they would get murdered in a playoff. But as you say, better than being left out, but that's what happens when you play nobody and compete in a horrible, horrible conference.

They need to do everything in their power to persuade the Pac 10 to let them join the conference. Once they get rid of that bs turf, they may have a chance at a BCS conference. lol

That is your opinion but games are won on the field not in news papers or fans opinion and sure as hell are not won in computer programs. Lastly you once again act like they have a big choice of who they play they have evidently asked for these games and not getting much response. Yet teams like UTEP have no problem getting games with the so call power house

 

[switzersflask]

It matters because some very good talent that in past years would be stowed away on bigger team, now are out there playing and in the case of Boise doing it very well. If I recall they took down the Sooners in the BCS game so don't act like they can't win they have when given the chance.

OU got shocked, and then woke up and completely buttraped them with 35 unanswered points. Still wasn't enough, but once we realized BSU could play, we slapped them like some little girls.

Also, OU wasn't that great that season. We lost to Texas and were screwed by Oregon. We had Paul Thompson as our qb because Rhett Bomar was kicked off the team. Thompson had been playing WR for a season and a half.

Anyway, Texas screwed off their season by losing to KState and aTm, which moved us right into the Big XII title game against a pretty bad Nebraska team.

Boise beat a not so great OU team. For OU standards we weren't that great, but to others I guess we weren't all that bad. All I'm saying is we slapped them around when we realized it was a game and they didn't do anything for the entire second half, until the final plays of trickery.

Also, we didn't have our starting tailback, our go to WR (M. Kelly), our top defensive back, and our top defensive tackle in that game, yet we still raped them when we woke up. I can only imagine what would happen if a team went in there with respect for Boise. The Broncs would get murdered.

 

[switzersflask]

That is your opinion but games are won on the field not in news papers or fans opinion and sure as hell are not won in computer programs. Lastly you once again act like they have a big choice of who they play they have evidently asked for these games and not getting much response. Yet teams like UTEP have no problem getting games with the so call power house

Oh don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a playoff, because then, we'd get to see the end of that b.s.

And as I said earlier, they're gonna have to join a better conference. Scheduling one power team a year isn't gonna cut it, and the only way they're gonna get a decent s.o.s. is join a BCS conference. However, once that happens, we'll see the end of Boise in the top 10 because there is no way in hell they run through the Pac Ten like that. You'll be going from Toledo type teams week in week out, to teams like USC, Oregon, Stanford, Cal, etc. That's two losses at least right there for BSU.