Osa: run it back or let him walk

Hawkeye0202

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In a normal organization, Odighizhua would be kept. Not here at the bargain basement bin. He will garner a nice payday next year and it won’t be here.

What I don’t understand is if this franchise is supposed to be all about “draft and develop”, when they draft and develop a player like Osa Odighizhua, then let him go, it makes the develop part Ring a little hollow.

Bottom line: You can’t build a great roster without spending some cap space on some upper mid-level FAs. Osa would be exactly what this team needs to keep but they wont pay for a guy who doesn’t sell a ton of jerseys.
:hammer::hammer: makes no sense at all
 

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OTC has a value of around $10M. I will admit, I have no idea how close it is to his true value on the open market, but if he walks, you get a compensatory pick, and a new starter will be needed at DT.
Side note: As good as he's been our rush defense is still near the bottom. In other words, he hasn't helped our run defense as much as we'd like.

Honestly, I'm on the fence ...it's hard to build a team when you are letting solid drafted players walk but on the other side, he's just one piece of the puzzle. Tough call



https://overthecap.com/player/osa-odighizuwa/9539



Listen since Stephen Jones thinks that then the smart bet would be to bet on it being a bust.I have no confidence whatsoever that he or his daddy
know what they are doing.
 

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Osa is one to budget into the Dallas cap.

Also...
Lewis turns 30 next August and that will likely affect interest in his services. In the modern pass-happy NFL, your third corner is essentially a starter and plays way more snaps than your third linebacker. So while you have to be concerned about age with that, you have to keep that balanced with ability and performance. From what we’ve seen this year, Lewis still has plenty to offer.

The Cowboys do have more assets to work with at CB than other positions. Trevon Diggs and DaRon Bland are still here and prospects Caelen Carson and Josh Butler are under contract. But with three of those guys currently injured, and Diggs’ status for 2025 now a point of controversy, Dallas may want to hedge its bet with a reliable guy like Lewis.

This has even become interesting with next year's defensive line, to include Lawrence.

5:25 p.m. - With so much attention going to Micah Parsons and Osa Odighizuwa on Dallas' pass rush, Carl Lawson has had opportunities to take advantage of his matchups - and he's done so.

"I think yesterday he played his best game he's played, he had a couple nice rushes..." Defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer said. "He's doing better, we're working on his angles and trying to get his angles better, and I thought yesterday was much better."

On Sunday against the Panthers, Lawson tallied his fifth sack of the season - tying him for second on the team with DeMarvion Overshown.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/updates-december-2024


Sam Williams will be back as well.
 

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Yep absolutely. If the Cowboys resign Osa, Mazi keeps getting better and they spend a 1st on a war daddy DT the Cowboys would field the best interior DL that they had in a very very long time. And I would still advocate for drafting yet another DT.
one more season with Mazi.

POST-6/1 RELEASE​

2026 Dead Cap: $4,223,767
2027 Dead Cap: $0
2026 Savings: $0
 

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Osa is one to budget into the Dallas cap.

Also...
Lewis turns 30 next August and that will likely affect interest in his services. In the modern pass-happy NFL, your third corner is essentially a starter and plays way more snaps than your third linebacker. So while you have to be concerned about age with that, you have to keep that balanced with ability and performance. From what we’ve seen this year, Lewis still has plenty to offer.

The Cowboys do have more assets to work with at CB than other positions. Trevon Diggs and DaRon Bland are still here and prospects Caelen Carson and Josh Butler are under contract. But with three of those guys currently injured, and Diggs’ status for 2025 now a point of controversy, Dallas may want to hedge its bet with a reliable guy like Lewis.

This has even become interesting with next year's defensive line, to include Lawrence.

5:25 p.m. - With so much attention going to Micah Parsons and Osa Odighizuwa on Dallas' pass rush, Carl Lawson has had opportunities to take advantage of his matchups - and he's done so.

"I think yesterday he played his best game he's played, he had a couple nice rushes..." Defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer said. "He's doing better, we're working on his angles and trying to get his angles better, and I thought yesterday was much better."

On Sunday against the Panthers, Lawson tallied his fifth sack of the season - tying him for second on the team with DeMarvion Overshown.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/updates-december-2024


Sam Williams will be back as well.
Yep, ideally they'd retain these guys (DL n CBs) then add to the group in the offseason. Stop creating holes to fix.
 

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one more season with Mazi.

POST-6/1 RELEASE​

2026 Dead Cap: $4,223,767
2027 Dead Cap: $0
2026 Savings: $0
Come 2026 though his $4M cap hit is likely to be around or just a fraction over 1% of the overall cap. Itll be the same price as finding a cheap backup DT in free agency. Unless he completely falls back off with his play they would be smart to keep him around at a bargain price and a shot at a comp pick for letting him walk.
 

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I wouldn't hesitate to bring OSA back, and fully expect him to have close value to a Christian Wilkins who signed for 4/$110M this past offseason. He would be extremely difficult to replace unless you can land a gift in Mason Graham in round 1.

Part of me wonders if OSA is impacting some of the rumors that Micah could be traded? It could be very difficult to keep both players and moving Micah and signing OSA saves you about $20-25M per year and is likely to net you two premium picks or more making it most likely a 4-5 player swing. Letting OSA walk nets you a 3rd round comp pick, but you keep a higher end player in Micah. It makes for an interesting debate for sure.
Remember Stephen admitted they want to look at the whole pic regarding Parsons's contract. This tells me they will consider exactly what you mentioned. Parsons ( league-best defensive player at 40M) vs multiply extra draft picks, $20-25M savings and signing a few quality free agents
 

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I love the kid but the truth is, he and Mazi have played together as starters for 2 years and our run defense is still near the bottom. How to reconcile that......
You just don't think about it and glory in the fact that you have the world's most valuable franchise. Feeling better yet? Works for Jerry so it should work for you too, lol.
 

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Remember Stephen admitted they want to look at the whole pic regarding Parsons's contract. This tells me they will consider exactly what you mentioned. Parsons ( league-best defensive player at 40M) vs multiply extra draft picks, $20-25M savings and signing a few quality free agents
Yeah I think Bland could be a factor in that as well. With him missing so much time this year I have no idea what his actual FA market would look like, but hes been really good since coming back even if hes not getting the INT numbers he did under DQ.
 

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Yep, ideally they'd retain these guys (DL n CBs) then add to the group in the offseason. Stop creating holes to fix.
23M cap for 2025.

They can create $$$ by cutting Steele and Diggs. But that is post June money.

If Parsons gets paid, we can get some $$$ from his 5th year being reworked.

Turpin, Hoffman, OSA, Trey Lance, Osa all need paid.
 

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I really like Osa. I think he is a good player. I think changing of schemes and philosophy, and the teams struggles to get him support beside him at DT has hindered his trajectory some but Id bring him back if it was a sensible financial solution, But I cant act like I have faith in Jerry and Stephen in these situations.
 

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Just like Dak, Osa deserves to get paid. The best option is to get that compensatory pick and hope they draft someone that can replace him.
Dak?

All things be equal, he’s not worth the money they paid him.

But good for him for getting that bag.
 

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Osa insanity.

He's been a massively underachieving starting 3 tech for years and people are treating him as a major piece you can't lose.

Just insanity.
 

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Remember Stephen admitted they want to look at the whole pic regarding Parsons's contract. This tells me they will consider exactly what you mentioned. Parsons ( league-best defensive player at 40M) vs multiply extra draft picks, $20-25M savings and signing a few quality free agents

Jerry farts in your general direction.

 

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Mazi has played ok the last 6 weeks. He actually has been solid for most of the season. He is 23 years old and will get better. Do you know Mazi played last season with a bum shoulder and missed all offseason activities. I can tell you know nothing about playing the 1 tech. Mazi is a reason Osa and defense has stepped up recently.
That's also not factoring in that Mazi's growth also took a hit last year when they were having him drop weight. Never understood the purpose behind that.
 

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Osa is definitely underrated and would like him back, but depends on the valuation. At this point he's closer to Maliek Collins than the next dominant DT but has potential to get better and at minimum is probably a top 20 type DT in the league. If this D is to go to the next level though it's probably because they have a top 5 dt playing the spot, which we don't have at the moment.

They do face a tough decision with Osa as he's probably the only dt that is a consistent contributor, but hasn't emerged as the dominant force you hope from that 3tech. I think he ends up getting between 12 and 16 a year, if it's on the higher end we're probably looking to draft.
 

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Personally I would try to keep him. The roster on the DL sucks big time. Too many holes to have to fill another.

I am sure the analytics dept is telling Nepo Baby to let him walk.
 
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