Our Defense:

[RCowboyFan]

Dude our 1st team D has dominated in preseason. What are you looking at? Stop juding our team on the 2nd half of preseason games when the backups are in there.

Yeah, on second team, we had our 1st team CBs giving up plays. Watch the darn game too. 49ers WR pretty much suck. Same thing with Titans.

Its not about just 2nd teamers, who is playing on 2nd team matter too. Our offense I don't have a problem with, infact, I think OL has more depth than what has reported at camp.

You can jump up and down about it, but fact is, our Secondary is not as strong as advertised. One injury to top 3 CBs, seems like Cowboys will be bad shape.

 

[Mansta54]

Yeah, on second team, we had our 1st team CBs giving up plays. Watch the darn game too. 49ers WR pretty much suck. Same thing with Titans.

Its not about just 2nd teamers, who is playing on 2nd team matter too. Our offense I don't have a problem with, infact, I think OL has more depth than what has reported at camp.

You can jump up and down about it, but fact is, our Secondary is not as strong as advertised. One injury to top 3 CBs, seems like Cowboys will be bad shape.

You can say this for the other 31 teams as well. Injuries will deplete any team, not just the Cowboys..

 

[RCowboyFan]

Do you realize the starting Niners offense completed a grand total of one pass to a wide receiver?

My only concern from this game was the offense's lack of points relative to its yardage.

Maybe my point wasn't clear. I don't care about how the first team played, but how our Secondary played, especially on second unit, when Scandrick and Jenkins were playing. Thats when the scrubs started to complete passes, which concerned me a lot.

Its all based on what we heard from TC. And fact that they haven't played any good WR so far in pre-season, none that can be legitimate No. 1 on a decent team.

As far as Offense, I am not that concerned, they were missing pretty much top 2 WRs as far as I am concerned, since It hink Hurd is better than Crayton, IMO. I think Niners Defense is underrated.

 

[Bizwah]

If the Giants have more depth than us, then why did they get clobbered by the Bears last week?

Why did they lose again tonight against the Jets?

 

[mmohican29]

if the point of the preseason is to have your starting secondary completely collapse at the end of the half- yet again, mind you- against a very sub-par passing attack which the Niners have... then I guess you're right. We're definitely at mid-season form there.

My point is I'm not seeing anything different then from when the finger pointers were front and center in the secondary. Arm tackling safeties... players not even COACHED to look for the football on roll out balloon passes up the field on third and forever.

Or when Parcells failed to teach LB's contain on very clear screen passes. Or failing to address a need at backup NT.

I'm just disappointed overall in our play minus the Tennesee game who got beat handily by Pittsburgh today- not that these scores mean anything, I know.

But soon meaningless becomes meaningful. Have your excuses in order for then, because I think our games are going to be high scoring affairs from what I've seen.

 

[Mansta54]

Maybe my point wasn't clear. I don't care about how the first team played, but how our Secondary played, especially on second unit, when Scandrick and Jenkins were playing. Thats when the scrubs started to complete passes, which concerned me a lot.

Its all based on what we heard from TC. And fact that they haven't played any good WR so far in pre-season, none that can be legitimate No. 1 on a decent team.

As far as Offense, I am not that concerned, they were missing pretty much top 2 WRs as far as I am concerned, since It hink Hurd is better than Crayton, IMO. I think Niners Defense is underrated.

Neither does Tampa Bay, our 1st game. Our secondary and 1st D have looked very good this preseason. Again, not sure what your watching..

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Maybe my point wasn't clear. I don't care about how the first team played, but how our Secondary played, especially on second unit, when Scandrick and Jenkins were playing. Thats when the scrubs started to complete passes, which concerned me a lot.

Its all based on what we heard from TC. And fact that they haven't played any good WR so far in pre-season, none that can be legitimate No. 1 on a decent team.

Do you realize the play of the front seven directly impacts the secondary? If the quality of the front seven diminishes, the secondary will be affected.

 

[dbair1967]

I swear, I wonder what game some of our fans are watching. Our starters have balled all preseason on both sides of the ball.

It's easy, we just have stupid fans with unrealistic expectations of preseason games.

I really wonder if our starters had royally sucked, but we were 3-0 would some of them be saying what a great season we were gonna have.

 

[Mansta54]

if the point of the preseason is to have your starting secondary completely collapse at the end of the half- yet again, mind you- against a very sub-par passing attack which the Niners have... then I guess you're right. We're definitely at mid-season form there.

My point is I'm not seeing anything different then from when the finger pointers were front and center in the secondary. Arm tackling safeties... players not even COACHED to look for the football on roll out balloon passes up the field on third and forever.

Or when Parcells failed to teach LB's contain on very clear screen passes. Or failing to address a need at backup NT.

I'm just disappointed overall in our play minus the Tennesee game who got beat handily by Pittsburgh today- not that these scores mean anything, I know.

But soon meaningless becomes meaningful. Have your excuses in order for then, because I think our games are going to be high scoring affairs from what I've seen.

Ahh dude, they played a soft zone on that last drive...

 

[Bizwah]

Do you realize the play of the front seven directly impacts the secondary? If the quality of the front seven diminishes, the secondary will be affected.

I honestly don't think they played that bad with the second-string.

 

[RCowboyFan]

You can say this for the other 31 teams as well. Injuries will deplete any team, not just the Cowboys..

Wow really? I am amazed at that great point. Its not about overreaction, which seems like you are doing more of it though. We shall see how it works out in the season, but I think our Secondary is not that good. It is decent, with a upgrade due to Sensabaugh instead of Roy Williams.



On other hand, I will say, I don't have any issues about Offense, it has really good Depth, even at WR. Doug Free looks like Legitimate LT in the making, playing against scrubs or not.

 

[cowboyrock]

Not sure he is entirely wrong. Our Secondary doesn't seem like is going to be strength. Especially Scandrick and Jenkins. They don't suck, but they aren't all that, or at least what they would be based on what we heard from TC. Secondary I think is overrated and probably national opinion on Secondary probably being the weakness might turn out to be true.

Hopefully in regular season, with scheme and all, this turns to be opposite.

Keep fooling yourselves.this defenseis not that good.

 

[mmohican29]

Do you realize the play of the front seven directly impacts the secondary? If the quality of the front seven diminishes, the secondary will be affected.

Unless you're the '08- ('09) Dallas Cowboys who led the NFL in sacks but I think we were DEAD LAST in INT's.

 

[Mansta54]

Do you realize the play of the front seven directly impacts the secondary? If the quality of the front seven diminishes, the secondary will be affected.

Obviously he doesn't know that. :bang2:

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

T. Newman
M. Jenkins
O. Scandrick
A. Ball

All four of those guys can play the position... It's about developing the people behind them. M. Mikens and D. Smith

K. Hamlin
G. Sensabaugh


These two will be fine back there... Again the depth will depend on the health of Watkins and M. Hamlin.

 

[TheBiG Z]

We were not dead last with int's. I think our starting D has given up like 15 points in these three games.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Obviously he doesn't know that. :bang2:

Yep, I never watched pre-season before Every body is a football Genious....

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Unless you're the '08- ('09) Dallas Cowboys who led the NFL in sacks but I think we were DEAD LAST in INT's.

The 2008 Cowboys secondary is completely different from the 2009 version. The 2009 Cowboys have two new starters in the secondary -- that's a 50 percent turnover. There can be no comparison between the two.

 

[dbair1967]

Yeah, on second team, we had our 1st team CBs giving up plays. Watch the darn game too. 49ers WR pretty much suck. Same thing with Titans.

Its not about just 2nd teamers, who is playing on 2nd team matter too. Our offense I don't have a problem with, infact, I think OL has more depth than what has reported at camp.

You can jump up and down about it, but fact is, our Secondary is not as strong as advertised. One injury to top 3 CBs, seems like Cowboys will be bad shape.

I really didnt see them giving up any big plays tonight...most of the Niners completions were dink and dunk stuff. They averaged 6.0 yds per a attempt and completed only a few passes to WR's.

Scandrick and Jenkins didnt give up much. Jenkins gave up one completion I think, Scandrick gave up two or three but on one was clearly pushed off on.

I'm not worried. Wade is an outstanding defensive coach. We've seen almost nothing but vanilla stuff in terms of fronts and coverages all preseason.

 

[windward]

It's easy, we just have stupid fans with unrealistic expectations of preseason games.

I really wonder if our starters had royally sucked, but we were 3-0 would some of them be saying what a great season we were gonna have.

Remember when Vinny looked all-world in preseason in 2004?

That worked out well.