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If Dak was passing for more than 300 a game I doubt we would be winning like we have been...
that's pretty much true for any QB. if any QB is passing for 300 yards consistently, I doubt if they are winning a lot. its all over the place with QBs. I mean Tannehill won two playoff games passing for less than 90 yards....
 

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I mean, ideally you probably want the Cowboys to rush for 200 and throw for 250 in an offensive humming performance but that can't happen every week.

Sure but it has been humming along for weeks now. In fact since 4 came back we have gone from bottom third in stats like points per drive, red zone success and 3rd down percentage to being top 3.

The real question with 4 is ball security. He isn't fumbling it which used to be an issue but he isn't seeing things well and being cavalier with the ball. Throwing into coverage stopped after the first game back but he's missing a check or making another's missed assignment worse leading to turnovers.
 

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Bunch of hypocrites, Coach! They complained the past 3 seasons how Dak lighting it up with the pass was only resulting in losses and only padding up his stats. Now that Dak has been reigned in and made to run & pass the ball more balanced offensively, which is resulting in wins, these same hypocrites are now complaining. They are just looking for anything to complain about Dak. We all can see it from a mile away. Sheesh.
Now just Imagine Christmas with Wentz:lmao2::lmao2:
 

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Bunch of hypocrites, Coach! They complained the past 3 seasons how Dak lighting it up with the pass was only resulting in losses and only padding up his stats. Now that Dak has been reigned in and made to run & pass the ball more balanced offensively, which is resulting in wins, these same hypocrites are now complaining. They are just looking for anything to complain about Dak. We all can see it from a mile away. Sheesh.

Cry babies gonna cry.
 

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Run the ball at all costs.
Our passing game goes like this.......
Prescott for 3 yards.
Prescott for a screen taken by CD for 20 yards.
Prescott to our TE for 4.
Prescott dumps it off for 3.
Prescott for over 8 yards....intercepted or overthrown/dirtball.
Just keep the Bus Driver at 3rd and under 4 and we might get a 1st down.:omg:

That sentence determines whether we have Good or Elite Dak. At the moment he's doing a supreme job at moving those chains behind the near unstoppable running game. What happens when/if the run stalls and Dak needs to take a risk, we'll find out as the Bucc's/49ers/Comms and the improved Ingles run D are all potentially there in the playoffs.

I think the recent use of CeeDee in motion and lateral's to Tony will stop teams flooding the secondary and will improve the long passing game as will the 'lesser spotted' Washington if he does get back and stretch the field.

We are better schemed/more varied offense than last year .....just keep away from those Dig Plays.
 

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We’re complaining about the number 1 scoring offense in the league lol?

Literally had a dang near 4500 passing season last year, it’s not like we can’t throw. I don’t get it do we want balance or do we want stats?

Also, rarely do passing yardage leaders win the SB. It’s been proven to not be a sustainable winning strategy. The way we win now is much more reliable, you just need to make crucial plays in crucial moments; not pass for 400 yards.

Brady can stink almost the entire game, but if it's close and it's two minutes - BAM!!! He plays like his life depends on it. I think I saw somewhere he's undefeated when he has the ball with under two minutes to go in the game? Crazy!
 

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My issue with Dak is not the way he throttles teams and hangs 50 points on them because he plays as good as anybody in those games. He isn't the same QB in bigger games against better teams. And I believe that's pedigree. You watch Mahomes and Josh Allen battle it out and they both play well in those games but somebody has to lose. Same with Joe Burrow. Those guys hit a funk and they pull out of it and keep going in the same game. Dak against the Cardinals last year and Denver is just inexcusable. That performance against the 49ers I saw that coming a mile away. Dak didn't even play very well in that Seattle playoff win. He was choking at the end and didn't trust his arm so had to run for a first down when he was helicoptered. I truly believe that it's not how you battery the weak teams that define you it's about how you perform in big games. That win and your in the playoffs was a terrible game in Philly a few years ago. Maybe the standards on Dak are too high but he brought that on himself by demanding top money when he folds in big games. You can blame the defense for giving up too many rushing yards but that doesn't excuse why Dak is going 3 and out. What's the answer, I can't tell you other than maybe reset and try and trade Dak for draft picks and draft a first round QB . Of course you have to let this year play out but I think we all know how this is truly going to end.
 

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My issue with Dak is not the way he throttles teams and hangs 50 points on them because he plays as good as anybody in those games. He isn't the same QB in bigger games against better teams. And I believe that's pedigree. You watch Mahomes and Josh Allen battle it out and they both play well in those games but somebody has to lose. Same with Joe Burrow. Those guys hit a funk and they pull out of it and keep going in the same game. Dak against the Cardinals last year and Denver is just inexcusable. That performance against the 49ers I saw that coming a mile away. Dak didn't even play very well in that Seattle playoff win. He was choking at the end and didn't trust his arm so had to run for a first down when he was helicoptered. I truly believe that it's not how you battery the weak teams that define you it's about how you perform in big games. That win and your in the playoffs was a terrible game in Philly a few years ago. Maybe the standards on Dak are too high but he brought that on himself by demanding top money when he folds in big games. You can blame the defense for giving up too many rushing yards but that doesn't excuse why Dak is going 3 and out. What's the answer, I can't tell you other than maybe reset and try and trade Dak for draft picks and draft a first round QB . Of course you have to let this year play out but I think we all know how this is truly going to end.

Daks winning percentage against winning teams is almost the same as Allen’s. About the same as Rodgers too.
 

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This is a good thing. It means the Cowboys don't have to throw the football to win. They are better when they are balanced. Let's not complain about it.
 

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Daks winning percentage against winning teams is almost the same as Allen’s. About the same as Rodgers too.

Yeah I've posted the link to those percentages several times because this myth get parroted around the board quite a bit. Dak is exactly in line with all the other top qbs, except Mahomes, who I believe has an outstanding record against quality opponents.
 

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Well we have not wonder and Dak bleeping Prescott as our two leaders for the offense I have no idea why our passing game isn't the best in the league....Oh wait...
 

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So some folks aren't happy with having Dak as our qb.

I get it. Limited playoff success, some head scratching losses, not an "elite" quarterback. But consider:

Paxton Lynch
Christian Hackenberg
Jacoby Brissett
Cody Kessler
Connor Cook

All of those qbs were drafted before Dak. Most are not even in the league, let alone have out-performed Dak. And no doubt there were posters here who bemoaned the fact that Dallas didn't take one of them in their first 3 picks.

But they didn't, be grateful of that...
 

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Yeah I've posted the link to those percentages several times because this myth get parroted around the board quite a bit. Dak is exactly in line with all the other top qbs, except Mahomes, who I believe has an outstanding record against quality opponents.
Daks winning percentage against winning teams is almost the same as Allen’s. About the same as Rodgers too.
Thats surprising Rodgers is really fading without a top teir WR. Allen suffered the first couple years until he learned and got better. He played against Brady and the Patriots. Those winning percentages don't tell the true story. Allen played great against Mahomes and the Chiefs it's just who had the ball last. Dak has not looked good against the 49ers or Rams and was suspect against Seattle but those are playoff games. The bigger the game the more Dak seems to struggle.
 

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Thats surprising Rodgers is really fading without a top teir WR. Allen suffered the first couple years until he learned and got better. He played against Brady and the Patriots. Those winning percentages don't tell the true story. Allen played great against Mahomes and the Chiefs it's just who had the ball last. Dak has not looked good against the 49ers or Rams and was suspect against Seattle but those are playoff games. The bigger the game the more Dak seems to struggle.

Ok, we’ll the metrics say otherwise but you’re entitled to your option.
 

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Daks winning percentage against winning teams is almost the same as Allen’s. About the same as Rodgers too.
You totally missed the point of @Hadenough 's post and if you think it's about win percentage you may as well forego games and just concentrate on stats.... for instance the Allan loss to Mahomes in playoffs is a negative in the percentage but threw a 136 rating.
It's a fair point to say that if Dak has a weakness its when the game is on the line, in a close situation and the game's on his arm.
 

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Yeah I've posted the link to those percentages several times because this myth get parroted around the board quite a bit. Dak is exactly in line with all the other top qbs, except Mahomes, who I believe has an outstanding record against quality opponents.
That's an incomplete stat. You'd need to factor in game importance. As per the Allan /Mahomes individual stats vrs a fellow elite QB.
Indeed, if you took out divisional games Dak doesn't fair too well.
Personally i'm more than OK with what we've got, but Dak's yet to show that 2 minute drill in pressure situations (like play-offs)... the two attempts in 4th Q vrs 49ers is somewhat indicative of this. Before you start, I love the managerial Dak, just don't trust the risk taking under pressure throw/drive to win a playoff game.
 
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