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It obviously is a good thing because it shows the running game is working very well and we aren't getting way behind where we have to pass to get back in games.

I know you think saying that is somehow an excuse for Dak, but that is isn't about Dak, it's about the team as a whole. The running game, the defense, the overall efficiency of the offense etc ...


That said, while I'm not nearly as negative about Dak as you are, I agree he is not an elite, carry the team on his back kind of QB. I will also say he has gotten away with too many passes that could or should have been picked off this year.


Still, your post should get called out because it provides a narrow picture and skips much of the story ...

1. The team had a 300 yards passing against Minnesota, but between 2 QBs because Rush played in the 4th quarter after the Cowboys got a big lead.

2. 5 of those games were with the backup QB starting.

3. With big leads in the 4th quarter in several games the team was focused on running and keeping the clock moving

4. Dak had 295 the last game of 2021, and there really isn't anything magic about an extra 5 yards.

5. Dak had the 7th most passing yards in the NFL in 2021, so it's been established he can have big passing days.

6. Many fans have criticized the Cowboys and Dak when Dak throws for big yards, saying Dak isn't that kind of elite passer and the team is best served by a balanced attack, so it's a bit disingenous to now criticize the Cowboys and Dak when Dak throws for a more moderate yardage total while the team succeeds with a balanced attack.
exactly. great post. Dak is not elite, but doesn't mean we can't win as many teams have gone and won superbowls with non-elite QBs that are lesser than Dak is today.

its about the best players on the team that can help us win being on the field, who cares about the names.

seemingly the many would rather not win with Dak....therein lies the issue.

to me, who gives a shiet as long as we win. Titans won two play off games passing for less than 90 yards. SF won NFCCG by passing less than 100 yards....did anybody care?
 

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Dude everyone wants an elite QB I don’t understand rehashing the same thing over and over. The chances of landing a top 5 guy are rare, you act as if we can just snap our fingers and get a Mahomes/Allen/Burrow.

Outside of the top 4-5, there’s 10ish QB’s who are interchangeable. QB’s who can only do so much alone and need a complete team and coaching staff. That’s football bro.

Everyone wants an elite QB, but the supply is the most limited of any position in sports. It’s such a futile thing to complain about because it’s not solvable without extreme luck and good fortune.

We have as good a chance as any team that doesn’t have an elite QB in a year where there’s barely any in the conference.

Asking us to imagine what it would be with an elite qb is such a random hypothetical lol. Could do this with every postion. Imagine if we had an elite WR, an elite DT, an elite C, an elite S, and elite LB, an elite HC, an elite RT, lol the list goes on and on.

If you just want to imagine a team with elite players everywhere that’s totally cool. But complaining about the offense when it’s humming because we don’t have Patrick Mahomes at QB is so pointless. There’s no fix to that man even if the Joneses wanted Dak gone what the heck is the solution? Trade for a guy like Russell Wilson (which you were a proponent of)? How’s that working?

27-28 teams do not have elite QB’s man, hardest position to find. The solution when you don’t have one is to build a complete team with high quality coaching. We are trending in that direction, let it play out. We all want playoff success man, but complaining about a 9-3 regular season and a statistical beast of an offense is so random.

If you want to say, “let’s wait and see” that’s totally logical. But why crap on them for being good at the moment?
he is missing the forest because of the trees. he is honed in on having an elite QB and that's the only way to win. his agenda is to post as much as he can and argue and win arguments. nothing else matters.

oh, yeah I forgot. he is also the cowboys superfan who is better than everybody else, because apprantely he is the only one that cares about winning superbowls and the rest just care about regular season wins. his words.
 

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The Dallas Cowboys had 307 passing yards in the Vikings game on Sunday Nov 20, 2022...

They've played 2 games since then.

They're also tied for 3rd in points scored in 2022...there's that...
no no no no no...scoring doesn't matter. its irrelevant to the conversation. its about how many passing yards.

until we pass 300 yards and lose, then scoring is the most important thing

go figure!!!!
 

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Gill, That post is so excellent!
I wish you would start a thread with that as the opening post!
It needs to be more widely seen.
Please consider my suggestion.
Thanks, John
Thanks as always John!

I’ve started a few with that premise but A) Folks get impatient and don’t like to read lol. And B) The thread devolves into an agenda driven back and forth as you mentioned in a previous post,

My best chance is to get into a divisive thread like this one early and see if I can get enough eyes. Your time is much appreciated!
 

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Dude everyone wants an elite QB I don’t understand rehashing the same thing over and over. The chances of landing a top 5 guy are rare, you act as if we can just snap our fingers and get a Mahomes/Allen/Burrow.

Outside of the top 4-5, there’s 10ish QB’s who are interchangeable. QB’s who can only do so much alone and need a complete team and coaching staff. That’s football bro.

Everyone wants an elite QB, but the supply is the most limited of any position in sports. It’s such a futile thing to complain about because it’s not solvable without extreme luck and good fortune.

We have as good a chance as any team that doesn’t have an elite QB in a year where there’s barely any in the conference.

Asking us to imagine what it would be with an elite qb is such a random hypothetical lol. Could do this with every postion. Imagine if we had an elite WR, an elite DT, an elite C, an elite S, and elite LB, an elite HC, an elite RT, lol the list goes on and on.

If you just want to imagine a team with elite players everywhere that’s totally cool. But complaining about the offense when it’s humming because we don’t have Patrick Mahomes at QB is so pointless. There’s no fix to that man even if the Joneses wanted Dak gone what the heck is the solution? Trade for a guy like Russell Wilson (which you were a proponent of)? How’s that working?

27-28 teams do not have elite QB’s man, hardest position to find. The solution when you don’t have one is to build a complete team with high quality coaching. We are trending in that direction, let it play out. We all want playoff success man, but complaining about a 9-3 regular season and a statistical beast of an offense is so random.

If you want to say, “let’s wait and see” that’s totally logical. But why crap on them for being good at the moment?
He’s just a troll seeking attention. He admits it. He doesn’t get any attention at home so he trolls for it here.
 

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Our QB room sucks. Don’t know why this comes as a shock, nor is this news. Anyone here who does not want to see that is blinded by hopeless optimism that Dak will someday rise from inexistent ashes and become the next Patrick Mahomes, which many here believe is a monger he can reach, which is simply not true. I’m more likely to win the mega millions.


*Here's a quick way to silence people like you who toss out lies about quarterback talent, because none of you can back your statements up with facts.

1. If you can find me any links, statements, postings, etc. of any Hall of Famer, current or former players, coaches, GMs, or scouts that says Dak suck or he's a below average qb, or he's a bum.... I'll suspend my CZ account for an entire calendar year.

2. If you can't find any statements, links, or posts of these credible people saying Dak suck, a below average QB, or a bum.... then YOU have to suspend YOUR CZ account here for a calendar year. Do we have a deal???

(*** Here's where ALL the Dak haters go silent, turn and run scared, and fall into the Abyss, hiding like cowards. They NEVER back up their lies and weak, frivolous statements and NEVER take this challenge presented to them.)
 

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Thanks as always John!

I’ve started a few with that premise but A) Folks get impatient and don’t like to read lol. And B) The thread devolves into an agenda driven back and forth as you mentioned in a previous post,

My best chance is to get into a divisive thread like this one early and see if I can get enough eyes. Your time is much appreciated!
No problem my man!
I have never seen that point of view expressed so well, without being attacking and defense provoking.
Just would love it to get more views.
 

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I think the passing game is pretty bland. Heck, the entire offensive playbook is pretty bland. How many times do we have to watch the 2-yard bootleg to a TE to know that it's pretty much a wasted down?
Or a friggin stupid wr screen for non yards
 

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Technically Dallas passed for 307 yards against Minnesota a few weeks ago, but Cooper Rush had the last 31 since it was a blowout win.
 

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Run the ball at all costs.
Our passing game goes like this.......
Prescott for 3 yards.
Prescott for a screen taken by CD for 20 yards.
Prescott to our TE for 4.
Prescott dumps it off for 3.
Prescott for over 8 yards....intercepted or overthrown/dirtball.
Just keep the Bus Driver at 3rd and under 4 and we might get a 1st down.:omg:
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If Dak was passing for more than 300 a game I doubt we would be winning like we have been...
 

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*Here's a quick way to silence people like you who toss out lies about quarterback talent, because none of you can back your statements up with facts.

1. If you can find me any links, statements, postings, etc. of any Hall of Famer, current or former players, coaches, GMs, or scouts that says Dak suck or he's a below average qb, or he's a bum.... I'll suspend my CZ account for an entire calendar year.

2. If you can't find any statements, links, or posts of these credible people saying Dak suck, a below average QB, or a bum.... then YOU have to suspend YOUR CZ account here for a calendar year. Do we have a deal???

(*** Here's where ALL the Dak haters go silent, turn and run scared, and fall into the Abyss, hiding like cowards. They NEVER back up their lies and weak, frivolous statements and NEVER take this challenge presented to them.)
Don’t bother. You’re talking to someone who changed their username and when I called him out he said he told the forum only to find out after that no one knew. This is the kind of person you’re dealing with.
 

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Why do you guys let this idiot get you all upset? He obviously doesnt know what he's talking about. RS thinks very highly of himself but he has no idea what he's talking about. Or he just puts something controversial so that he gets likes and comments. I feel sorry for him and his fellow Dak-bashers. I'm getting them all a clue for Christmas
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We’re complaining about the number 1 scoring offense in the league lol?

Literally had a dang near 4500 passing season last year, it’s not like we can’t throw. I don’t get it do we want balance or do we want stats?

Also, rarely do passing yardage leaders win the SB. It’s been proven to not be a sustainable winning strategy. The way we win now is much more reliable, you just need to make crucial plays in crucial moments; not pass for 400 yards.
are they the number 1 scoring offense? top 5, but not #1. They have a few defensive TD's whi9ch you should subtract and 2 teams have scored more and another has the same amount of points
Im nitpicking but...
 

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exactly. great post. Dak is not elite, but doesn't mean we can't win as many teams have gone and won superbowls with non-elite QBs that are lesser than Dak is today.

its about the best players on the team that can help us win being on the field, who cares about the names.

seemingly the many would rather not win with Dak....therein lies the issue.

to me, who gives a shiet as long as we win. Titans won two play off games passing for less than 90 yards. SF won NFCCG by passing less than 100 yards....did anybody care?
Don’t let the perception of the haters cloud the truth. That’s exactly what they want. Dak is elite and I’ll make a separate thread justifying why.
 
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