Our Record If Romo Played All Year?

50cent

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,804
Reaction score
572
I agree. He looked bad this season. But I'd still call Romo an elite QB. The problem is, the team is so bad that he can't muster more than 8 wins on a regular basis. His career winning average is .602, which is 9.5 games in a 16 game season. Not even 10 which usually guarantees a playoff spot. Add in the fact that he usually misses a few games a year (which we almost always lose) and it explains why we're usually an 8-8 team throughout the Romo era. It's no knock on Romo. That's just how bad we are. We're a 1-win team this year. If we didn't have Romo, we'd be getting the 1st pick in the draft every year. Who knows, maybe if that was the case, we could've drafted some real quality players in the top half of the draft. Instead, we pick 15-20 every year and hit and miss (usually hit when it comes to O-line but miss when it comes to anything else). I can't fault Romo for being good enough to win 8 games a year on a team that has no business winning more than 1. But we definitely don't have a good team and haven't had one in the past 20 years. We're the Cleveland Raiders.

I considered him top tier and still do as long as the GAMEPLAN is centered around running first and him predominantly under center to take advantage of play action! Unfortunately, we keep THROWING him out there to win with his arm. I'm not as down on the line as most folks, because we don't use them to their true strengths, RUNNING EARLY AND OFTEN.
 

TheFinisher

Well-Known Member
Messages
4,479
Reaction score
4,920
Romo played just as 4-9 as the rest of his team the games he was healthy. He was on pace to throw 30 INTs. No coincidence the one year the team put him in a bus driver role to hand the ball repeatedly to Demarco was the only winning season Romo has had in the last 7 years.
 

JoeyBoy718

Well-Known Member
Messages
12,715
Reaction score
12,709
I considered him top tier and still do as long as the GAMEPLAN is centered around running first and him predominantly under center to take advantage of play action! Unfortunately, we keep THROWING him out there to win with his arm. I'm not as down on the line as most folks, because we don't use them to their true strengths, RUNNING EARLY AND OFTEN.

I agree. If McFadden can break off runs behind this O-line then the O-line is not the problem. I do think Romo needs to learn how to fall though. Every sack is a potential 8-week injury.
 

Miller

ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS TEXASFROG
Messages
12,307
Reaction score
13,906
Antonio is Tonys real name, silly.

2-3 more wins isn't even objective, it's telling that you have an agenda or didn't watch the games. The offense was sloppy and the OL was bad, in particular because they hadn't played together in the preseason and Martin still had a stinger. The defense was shorthanded all along the front 7 early in the season.

Weeden and Cassel are terrible. You're giving them way too much credit. You, me, and everyone else was thinking "wow, if we had a QB that could even make an NFL throw we'd have put enough points on the board". And that's one cause for everyone's frustration.

Romo is on a while different level than those scrubs, and yet we were still a TD / fg or even a few first downs away in crunch time to win almost all of them.

Now you are throwing other injuries out there. It sounds to me your not being objective.. If Cassell is so bad, why did he win in NE and KC but not here? Also why are guys like Hoyer, Fitzpatrick, Hasslebeck and others who are career backups winning games? Romo is in a different league but he showed early in the season and against Carolina that he wasn't sharp so saying we'd just easily win games makes no sense. That also doesn't take into account the opponents game plan. They weren't game planning for Romo. We don't know how those games would have faired when Tony didn't have Dez. You are giving the team too much credit after one 12-4 season and not looking at the other issues that have haunted the team this year. Saying that someone has an agenda or didn't watch games because you assume things is just a cop out. What did Romo show when healthy this year that says we win 5-6 of those games besides in your plug and play world of those games were close so we would have won all of them.
 

KJJ

You Have an Axe to Grind
Messages
62,190
Reaction score
39,437
No he didn't. Offense gave away 17 points to turnovers.

Yes he did he had 350 yards, 3 TD's and a passer rating of 103.2. How is that not lighting it up? He led the team on a last ditch drive to pull the game out and his 2 int's were the fault of his receivers.
 

Yakuza Rich

Well-Known Member
Messages
18,043
Reaction score
12,385
We would be at least 10-6. The division stinks. Still would have a problem come playoff time because we have no safeties (sans Byron Jones when he gets to play safety).




YR
 

50cent

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,804
Reaction score
572
He lit it up in the opener with 356 yards and 3 TD's carrying the team to a win.

Carrying? Wasn't it his fault we had to have a last drive to win? It's hardly lighting someone up when you hand the opponent points. That pass to Witten was awful and at least a yard behind his target lol.
 

AzCowboysFan

Well-Known Member
Messages
562
Reaction score
481
Yep. We could've also easily went 16-0. We were that good last year. Problem with the Cowboys is we play down to the competition even when we're the best team in the league. We could've won all 16 games, we could've lost 8, instead we won 12. Not bad, but could be better. In most years it's more like: we could've won 12 games, we could've lost 12 games, instead we won 8. Even when almost everything is going right, we find a way to come up short. No Super Bowl winners have perfect seasons. They deal with injuries, draft busts, have drama, but still find a way to overcome those setback. The Cowboys, on the other hand, always have an excuse for why we failed. I've heard bad defense, bad O-line, no receivers, bad play calling, etc over the years. We usually end up addressing our biggest flaw and then some other flaw shows up.

No one easily goes 16-0
 

KJJ

You Have an Axe to Grind
Messages
62,190
Reaction score
39,437
Carrying? Wasn't it his fault we had to have a last drive to win? It's hardly lighting someone up when you hand the opponent points. That pass to Witten was awful and at least a yard behind his target lol.

It was the defenses fault and his receivers let him down. Dunbar was our leading receiver in the game. The game was put on Romo and he came through his numbers that night say it all.
 

50cent

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,804
Reaction score
572
It was the defenses fault and his receivers let him down. Dunbar was our leading receiver in the game. The game was put on Romo and he came through his numbers that night say it all.

It was the defense fault that they held Eli to 3 points in the first half? It was Wittens fault Tony threw behind him?

And how can Romos numbers say it all, if you don't mention his 2 Ints? Those are numbers that speaks volumes. Just perspective!
 

LatinMind

iPhotoshop
Messages
17,458
Reaction score
11,571
Just for fun and wishful thinking.

I say, given our issues in other areas, likely 8-5. Which we would probably be complaining about but it would give us a nice 2 game cushion with 3 games left.

Romo wins us the NO, Tampa, and at least one of the PHI/NYG/SEA games. We still lose to NE, CAR, GB, ATL for sure.

I see only 1 game Dallas wouldve for certain lost with Romo and that was the Carolina game. The defense was killing ATL, with Romo thats a blowout. NE couldnt do anything but the thing is Weeden couldnt do anything. 8 of NEs 11 drives either had no first down and punt or 1 first down and punt.

I want to say right now with a healthy Romo this team is 12-1 or 11-2
 

KJJ

You Have an Axe to Grind
Messages
62,190
Reaction score
39,437
It was the defense fault that they held Eli to 3 points in the first half? It was Wittens fault Tony threw behind him?

And how can Romos numbers say it all, if you don't mention his 2 Ints? Those are numbers that speaks volumes. Just perspective!


When the game was on the line the defense was getting gashed by the run and it took a clock management gaff by the Giants to save us giving Romo a chance to pull the game out. Romo completed 80% of his passes in that game and you're making a big deal about one throw he threw behind Witten? lol Those 2 INT's were on his receivers are you going to blame Romo for the pass he hit Street in the hands with that popped out?
 

50cent

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,804
Reaction score
572
When the game was on the line the defense was getting gashed by the run and it took a clock management gaff by the Giants for Romo to have a chance to pull the game out. Romo completed 80% of his passes in that game and you're making a big deal about one throw he threw behind Witten? lol Those 2 INT's were on his receivers are you going to blame Romo for the pass he hit Street in the hands with that popped out?

No, Street was at fault as was Romo for throwing behind Witten. It's easy for me to place proper blame. I'm just responding to your carrying remark, when he and the pass game were at fault for being behind in the first place. Theres a reason we had to pass 45 times vs a subpar NYG team and part of it was Romos mistake(s)! 6 first half points is far from lighting anything up!
 

JoeyBoy718

Well-Known Member
Messages
12,715
Reaction score
12,709
No one easily goes 16-0

I didn't say that. I said we were good enough to win all 16 games last year but we struggled to win 8 of them, eventually holding on to win 12. In most years, we're good enough to win about 12 games but we end up struggling in 12 and usually end up winning 8. As good as we were last year, we struggled in far too many games that shouldn't have been close. Seems to be a trend. How often does a Cowboys game not come down to the final minutes? Sure, they're entertaining but you're gonna sink if you continue to skate on thin ice.
 

KJJ

You Have an Axe to Grind
Messages
62,190
Reaction score
39,437
No, Street was at fault as was Romo for throwing behind Witten. It's easy for me to place proper blame. I'm just responding to your carrying remark, when he and the pass game were at fault for being behind in the first place. Theres a reason we had to pass 45 times vs a subpar NYG team and part of it was Romos mistake(s)! 6 first half points is far from lighting anything up!

You must not know anything about football to make some of the comments you have. Allow me to fill you in on a few things Romo had to attempt 45 passes because the running game wasn't getting it done. Our backs combined for 80 yards rushing averaging only 3.5 a carry. The game was won on the arm of Romo who passed for 356 yards and 3 TD's with the final TD coming with 7 seconds left with the game on the line.
 

Mr Cowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
26,612
Reaction score
32,654
I hope Jerry isn't using the logic of many on here and believes that with Romo we're a 12-13 win team.

I think that under different circumstances, Romo would probably miss at least 3 games, probably losses; and have his usual throw away games, where he has a chance to pull one out at the end and throws an interception or doesn't quite bring the win. Throw in Garrett and his usual 2 games he costs us every year, and we are what we are, an 8-8 team.
 

JoeKing

Diehard
Messages
36,648
Reaction score
31,939
Speculating what the Cowboys record would be if Romo had played all games is an exercise in fantasy. You can never be proven right or wrong so it is not a winnable debate. I'll pass.
 
Top