Owen Schmitt

[theogt]

if teams start to emulate the Pack and Patriots, we're gonna need him, and Henry is always susceptible to injury

Sure we need a 4th corner. But they're much less valuable than a starting FB.

 

[skinsscalper]

I wouldn't mind that either. But if we're talking value, then you're taking a 4th CB, who won't see the light of day outside of special teams absent injuries, over a starting FB.

Sounds crazy, and looks even crazier when you see it written down, but the reality is we didn't have problem scoring points. We had a problem stopping teams' passing attack. At this point, as crazy as it sounds, a 4th CB may be more valuable to us. It's not like we are COMPLETELY devoid of talent at FB. Anderson doesn't even have a full season under his belt, and neither he OR Hoyte were flat out awful (regardless of anyone's ploy to exhault Schmitt as the greatest FB ever to come out of college).

I just don't see the Cowboys putting the value in Schmitt that many here have.

The draft will be interesting to watch. I wouldn't be broken hearted if Schmitt was drafted. I would be disappointed if he was taken before we filled more pressing needs.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Sure we need a 4th corner. But they're much less valuable than a starting FB.

again w/ the exaggerating

in a league where you need to line up 3, sometimes 4, corners, they outweight the FB

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I wouldn't be broken hearted if Schmitt was drafted. I would be disappointed if he was taken before we filled more pressing needs.

agree w/ everything, but esp. these 2 sentences

I wanna see a combo of either

CB, WR, CB, RB

or

CB, WR, LB, RB

if Schmitt is there for us in the 4th, take him, icing on the cake, bestest draft ever

I just don't see the value before then

 

[theogt]

Sounds crazy, and looks even crazier when you see it written down, but the reality is we didn't have problem scoring points. We had a problem stopping teams' passing attack. At this point, as crazy as it sounds, a 4th CB may be more valuable to us. It's not like we are COMPLETELY devoid of talent at FB. Anderson doesn't even have a full season under his belt, and neither he OR Hoyte were flat out awful (regardless of anyone's ploy to exhault Schmitt as the greatest FB ever to come out of college).

I just don't see the Cowboys putting the value in Schmitt that many here have.

The draft will be interesting to watch. I wouldn't be broken hearted if Schmitt was drafted. I would be disappointed if he was taken before we filled more pressing needs.

No doubt that we can get by with what we have at FB. I'm actually very high on Hoyte. I think he's the best blocker on the team. But Schmitt would be a pretty big upgrade in that he's just as good blocking, but he can actually carry the ball and would be a major thread out of the backfield.

 

[skinsscalper]

again w/ the exaggerating

in a league where you need to line up 3, sometimes 4, corners, they outweight the FB

It depends on the team. On this team I believe that the 4th CB is more valuable to us RIGHT NOW. I wouldn't say the same of the Bucs, or Giants, or Chargers.

Just depends on your team's style of O and D.

 

[theogt]

again w/ the exaggerating

in a league where you need to line up 3, sometimes 4, corners, they outweight the FB

In terms of snaps, there's no comparison. Our 4th corner would get just a fraction of the snaps our starting FB gets. We almost never had 4 corners on the field at the same time -- maybe 2% of our snaps.

But you're not going to see me upset if draft a Chevis Jackson in the 3rd.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

In terms of snaps, there's no comparison. Our 4th corner would get just a fraction of the snaps our starting FB gets. We almost never had 4 corners on the field at the same time -- maybe 2% of our snaps.

But you're not going to see me upset if draft a Chevis Jackson in the 3rd.

fair enough, I just think we can get by w/ what we have at FB

Deon has some potential, and the staff is high on him, so I don't envision them getting caught up in the Schmitt hype, that they would use a high pick on him

 

[skinsscalper]

No doubt that we can get by with what we have at FB. I'm actually very high on Hoyte. I think he's the best blocker on the team. But Schmitt would be a pretty big upgrade in that he's just as good blocking, but he can actually carry the ball and would be a major thread out of the backfield.

Can't say that I would have a legit argument against that, theo. I'm just not sure that the Cowboys can afford to draft that luxury at this point. That's what Schmitt would be, a luxury. We are so long in the tooth at WR and dangerously shallow at CB that I'm just not convinced that we can afford to grab him while he's available. If somehow, some way, the Cowboys could lock up two solid CBs, a great WR prospect, and RB to split with MBIII and Schmitt fell to us on our next pick I would be as giddy as a high school girl on prom night. At that point, they could mail the rest of the draft in and I would be STOKED. I just don't see it happening. But, hell, Jerry wheels and deals more often than he does sit still so anything is possible. Hell, I'd be comfortable trading next year's 3rd or 4th to grab the guy. It would be awesome, no doubt. Like I said though, if we grab him before filling true needs and we miss out on someone, I'll be very upset.

 

[theogt]

Can't say that I would have a legit argument against that, theo. I'm just not sure that the Cowboys can afford to draft that luxury at this point. That's what Schmitt would be, a luxury. We are so long in the tooth at WR and dangerously shallow at CB that I'm just not convinced that we can afford to grab him while he's available. If somehow, some way, the Cowboys could lock up two solid CBs, a great WR prospect, and RB to split with MBIII and Schmitt fell to us on our next pick I would be as giddy as a high school girl on prom night. At that point, they could mail the rest of the draft in and I would be STOKED. I just don't see it happening. But, hell, Jerry wheels and deals more often than he does sit still so anything is possible. Hell, I'd be comfortable trading next year's 3rd or 4th to grab the guy. It would be awesome, no doubt. Like I said though, if we grab him before filling true needs and we miss out on someone, I'll be very upset.

We could very much see:

1A - CB
1B - WR
2 - RB
3 - Schmitt
4 - CB

There are still going to be some CBs that are pretty good in the 4th, simply because there's so much depth at the position. Some that might be better value for how much playing time they'd get, such as Chevis Jackson, Trae Williams, Patrick Lee, Dwight Lowery, or even Justin King.

 

[skinsscalper]

We could very much see:

1A - CB
1B - WR
2 - RB
3 - Schmitt
4 - CB

There are still going to be some CBs that are pretty good in the 4th, simply because there's so much depth at the position. Some that might be better value for how much playing time they'd get, such as Chevis Jackson, Trae Williams, Patrick Lee, Dwight Lowery, or even Justin King.

I wouldn't be HORRIBLY disappointed in that scenario. I just have a feeling that the CB are going to start rolling off the boards early and often. If we could get Jackson in the 4th I would be stoked. Hopefully that means Mcelvin, Cromartie-Rodgers, or Talib, are available a tone of our other spots .

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

In terms of snaps, there's no comparison. Our 4th corner would get just a fraction of the snaps our starting FB gets. We almost never had 4 corners on the field at the same time -- maybe 2% of our snaps.

But you're not going to see me upset if draft a Chevis Jackson in the 3rd.

Too bad Schmitt wouldnt start. He wouldnt know where to begin in terms of pass protection.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

this is basically what i am getting from the response. We want schmitt because he is a hard nose smack you in the mouth atheletic all purpose full back second coming of moose card board eating tuff hard nose player and it would be nice to see him and barber busting people heads in.

There aren't many versatile FB's in the league in any at all. Don't think he would fit in to our system and don't believe fullback is such a huge problem we have to go there two years in a row. Since Anderson coming off injury its hard to say how he would be however this is the FB position and we don't need to constantly draft FB's. Id rather us draft a 2nd WR then to pick up a FB in any of our picks. This team isn't run first so we don't need a house hold name for our FB we just need some1 thats serviceable. Anderson is Hoyte isn't. There's 2 truths about our team we're pass happy and have an average run game upgrading fullback isn't goin 2 drastically improve our rush offense so theres no need to go full back. We should steer the course and let romo drive the ship and have MB3 clean up

 

[BigDave95]

It's a joke, all these Schmitt pimps who are trying to convince everyone how "versatile" he is. He's a lead blocker and nothing else. Who cares that he punted a few times? Who cares that he lined up at TE a couple times? They sure never threw it to him while he was out there.

He's a very good lead blocker with apparently some kind of magical mohawk that blinds and confuses people into thinking he's more.

 

[theogt]

Too bad Schmitt wouldnt start. He wouldnt know where to begin in terms of pass protection.

Of course he'd be the starter.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

It's a joke, all these Schmitt pimps who are trying to convince everyone how "versatile" he is. He's a lead blocker and nothing else. Who cares that he punted a few times? Who cares that he lined up at TE a couple times? They sure never threw it to him while he was out there.

He's a very good lead blocker with apparently some kind of magical mohawk that blinds and confuses people into thinking he's more.

 

[theogt]

It's a joke, all these Schmitt pimps who are trying to convince everyone how "versatile" he is. He's a lead blocker and nothing else. Who cares that he punted a few times? Who cares that he lined up at TE a couple times? They sure never threw it to him while he was out there.

He's a very good lead blocker with apparently some kind of magical mohawk that blinds and confuses people into thinking he's more.

Anyone who thinks he's just a lead blocker and nothing else hasn't watched him play. We already have a great leading blocker in Hoyte. If that's all that Schmitt was, then I wouldn't want him at all.

 

[Doctor32]

Schmitt's height (6'3") and hands make him much more versatile. He could do the H-Back / Full back thing - making the Cowboys less predictable in running situations. I mean just check out what the play call was every time Witten motioned into the backfield in a Full Back position.
Keep Cricket and Schmitt instead of Hoyte.
Fasano will no longer be needed here once his deal expires. Schmitt can do what Fasano can do, but not vice versa.

 

[Hostile]

Schmitt's height (6'3") and hands make him much more versatile. He could do the H-Back / Full back thing - making the Cowboys less predictable in running situations. I mean just check out what the play call was every time Witten motioned into the backfield in a Full Back position.
Keep Cricket and Schmitt instead of Hoyte.
Fasano will no longer be needed here once his deal expires. Schmitt can do what Fasano can do, but not vice versa.

Hiya Doc. Welcome to the Schmitt Pimps.

 

[Doctor32]

Hiya Doc. Welcome to the Schmitt Pimps.

Yeah, I'm running for Treasurer of the SP's. I've told Theebs several times, "If I had my way, we'd cut Hoyte and draft Schmitt in the 4th round."

For once maybe we can get a 4th round draft to contribute during his rookie season. I love Isiah Stanback's potential, but the Skyler Green thing still haunts me. What a horrible pick. Schmitt would also be a special teams stud - like Johnston - he'll be a great upback on the Punt coverage unit. Combine he and Cricket on Kickoff coverage, DUDE...