Owen Schmitt

[Hostile]

The telecasts are loaded with hyperbole like.

'you just gotta love this guy.'
'its like larry csonka reincarnated'
'hes the toughness of this mountaineer team'

and blah blah blah.

Let's see, he wasn't recruited anywhere. He walked on at Wisconsin River Falls. From there he earned a scholarship at WVU. In 2 years there he broke 10 facemasks. He recorded 106 knockdown or pancake blocks in 2007 and had 17 blocks that led to a TD. He squats 675 pounds, cleans 480, and is the #1 FB on every draft report out there except 1.

Yeah, it's all hyperbole, no substance at all.

 

[TheCount]

Is that 106 knockdowns in one season? What is that like 9 a game? Ridiculous.

I'm pretty sure he won't be there for our late pick in the 4th round at this point, and I don't think this particular staff will draft him with a 3rd.

 

[YosemiteSam]

This doesn't even make sense.

Yes, it does. Hype is hype. It doesn't matter what you say or do. It's hype! The real question is, can he justify the hype in the NFL?

Hype:

1. publicize somebody or something: to promote somebody or something with intense publicity​

USA Today hyping Owen Schmitt

Washington Post hyping Owne Schmitt

More hype?

Shall I produce more?

 

[theogt]

Here's an interesting stat -- in 353 career rushing attempts, he was tackled for a loss four times.

 

[theogt]

Yes, it does. Hype is hype. It doesn't matter what you say or do. It's hype! The real question is, can he justify the hype in the NFL?

Hype:

1. publicize somebody or something: to promote somebody or something with intense publicity​

USA Today hyping Owen Schmitt

Washington Post hyping Owne Schmitt

More hype?

Shall I produce more?

Your post in the context of the conversation didn't make sense.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Let's see, he wasn't recruited anywhere. He walked on at Wisconsin River Falls. From there he earned a scholarship at WVU. In 2 years there he broke 10 facemasks. He recorded 106 knockdown or pancake blocks in 2007 and had 17 blocks that led to a TD. He squats 675 pounds, cleans 480, and is the #1 FB on every draft report out there except 1.

Yeah, it's all hyperbole, no substance at all.

Sorry Hostile. It's still hype by definition.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Your post in the context of the conversation didn't make sense.

Whatever. You lost the argument so you start babbling to deflect the issue.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Let's see, he wasn't recruited anywhere. He walked on at Wisconsin River Falls. From there he earned a scholarship at WVU. In 2 years there he broke 10 facemasks. He recorded 106 knockdown or pancake blocks in 2007 and had 17 blocks that led to a TD. He squats 675 pounds, cleans 480, and is the #1 FB on every draft report out there except 1.

Yeah, it's all hyperbole, no substance at all.

Thats fine Hos but at the same time you have to admit the TV broadcasts were loaded with hype. and everything ive read is that the facemask thing is 'legend.'

We have had blocking fullbacks before. Remember Jamar Martin.

And the hype really gets out of control when a guy that hasnt ever caught more than 12 balls in a season all of a sudden is a passing threat and can be a TE. His in line blocking is questionable.

Hes a good blocking fullback in a league that really no longer uses them and we have a passing offense. But you say he comes in and instantly makes us better. Deep down you have to know that coming out of WVU that hes going to know very little and have had very little experience in pass protection. i dont see how hes going to make us 'better' when he wont start.

its like you think were going to get this guy and all of a sudden Garrett is going to transform into a playcaller that favors the run. it aint going to happen.

 

[theogt]

Is that 106 knockdowns in one season? What is that like 9 a game? Ridiculous.

I'm pretty sure he won't be there for our late pick in the 4th round at this point, and I don't think this particular staff will draft him with a 3rd.

Yeah, that was one season. At best we'd have to take him by the 3rd. And I doubt he even makes it to that pick.

Whatever. You lost the argument so you start babbling to deflect the issue.

Lost what argument? What are you even talking about?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Here's an interesting stat -- in 353 career rushing attempts, he was tackled for a loss four times.

Who cares when hes not going to take attempts away from Barber.

 

[Hostile]

Thats fine Hos but at the same time you have to admit the TV broadcasts were loaded with hype. and everything ive read is that the facemask thing is 'legend.'

We have had blocking fullbacks before. Remember Jamar Martin.

And the hype really gets out of control when a guy that hasnt ever caught more than 12 balls in a season all of a sudden is a passing threat and can be a TE. His in line blocking is questionable.

Hes a good blocking fullback in a league that really no longer uses them and we have a passing offense. But you say he comes in and instantly makes us better. Deep down you have to know that coming out of WVU that hes going to know very little and have had very little experience in pass protection. i dont see how hes going to make us 'better' when he wont start.

its like you think were going to get this guy and all of a sudden Garrett is going to transform into a playcaller that favors the run. it aint going to happen.

It's called short yardage situations and they are still critical in the NFL.

Did you by any chance read the reports of receiving skills from the Senior Bowl practices? No? Shocking.

 

[Hostile]

Sorry Hostile. It's still hype by definition.

Big deal, then so is anything written about any player in any sport. That the best you've got?

 

[theogt]

And the hype really gets out of control when a guy that hasnt ever caught more than 12 balls in a season all of a sudden is a passing threat and can be a TE. His in line blocking is questionable.

He actually lined up a good bit at TE in college. And according to NFLDS he's a "Punishing in-line blocker who is alert to stunts and blitzes."

Who cares when hes not going to take attempts away from Barber.

Right, because Barber is known for getting 100% of an offense's snaps.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Who cares when hes not going to take attempts away from Barber.

Wrong answer. It should have been Who cares, College != NFL.

That seems to be a a real hard thing to understand with some people. Lots of people here on CZ are in full belief that SEC is equal to the NFL. I mean everytime you turn around the quote "He did that in the SEC" as if the most of the SEC were going to be drafted and be starters on their new teams tomorrow.

Fact is, most will never even see an NFL practice squad.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Big deal, then so is anything written about any player in any sport. That the best you've got?

Best I've got? It was the freakin point of the arguement! :laugh2:

 

[theogt]

Wrong answer. It should have been Who cares, College != NFL.

That seems to be a a real hard thing to understand with some people. Lots of people here on CZ are in full belief that SEC is equal to the NFL. I mean everytime you turn around the quote "He did that in the SEC" as if the most of the SEC were going to be drafted and be starters on their new teams tomorrow.

Fact is, most will never even see an NFL practice squad.

It case you weren't aware, he didn't play in the SEC.

 

[Hostile]

Wrong answer. It should have been Who cares, College != NFL.

That seems to be a a real hard thing to understand with some people. Lots of people here on CZ are in full belief that SEC is equal to the NFL. I mean everytime you turn around the quote "He did that in the SEC" as if the most of the SEC were going to be drafted and be starters on their new teams tomorrow.

Fact is, most will never even see an NFL practice squad.

Wow, West Virginia is now in the SEC.

Credibility on this topic shot to hell in one remark.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's called short yardage situations and they are still critical in the NFL.

Did you by any chance read the reports of receiving skills from the Senior Bowl practices? No? Shocking.

Marion Barber is one of the best short yardage backs in the NFL. Hoyte is one of the more punishing FBs in lead blocking. Its called we dont need him for that.

And he had 'soft hands' at the senior bowl. Thats fine and dandy but WR come in and take a couple of years to develop timing witht he QB as well as precise route running etc.

But lets talk about pass protection because that is whats critical. What did the senior bowl practices have to say about his ability to recognize where blitzes are coming from and who to pick up in what situation in what blocking schemes becaseu that is the crux of the issue. Im sure that WVU put a premium on things like that with their 3:1 run-pass ratio.

 

[YosemiteSam]

It case you weren't aware, he didn't play in the SEC.

Wow, West Virginia is now in the SEC.

Credibility on this topic shot to hell in one remark.

I wasn't talking to you with that comment, nor did I EVER say Schmitt played in the SEC.

 

[superpunk]

Wow, West Virginia is now in the SEC.

Credibility on this topic shot to hell in one remark.

I think he was referring to the prevailing view of McFadden against his idiotic view of McFadden.

Support of McFadden says that he dominated the SEC (a conference churning out NFL defenders) as the sole option on offense. Crazy people say that McFadden is garbage.