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[theogt]

Actually, I do have one.

See: Iran.

When I'm asked about the best judicial systems in the world, Iran usually tops my list as well.

 

[Stash]

Well fix it... any proposals?

Yeah, put justice and democracy ahead of capitalism for one.

 

[theogt]

Yeah, put justice and democracy ahead of capitalism for one.

Communist much?

 

[Stash]

When I'm asked about the best judicial systems in the world, Iran usually tops my list as well.

I don't know much about Iran's legal system.

What is its' basic legal system?

 

[theogt]

I don't know much about Iran's legal system.

What is its' basic legal system?

Based on this thread, I'm not sure you wouldn't mind it.

 

[Stash]

Communist much?

Hardly.

I just know that money is the root of all evil.

Funny how so many jump that direction so fast though....

I guess it's either 'this' or it's 'that' with some people.

And if you don't think that capitalism passed democracy a long time ago, you're either naive or just stupid.

 

[Stash]

Based on this thread, I'm not sure you wouldn't mind it.

Nice non-answer.

About what I expected.

Keep hiding.

 

[burmafrd]

Iran is fine if you do not mind women being basically property.

 

[theogt]

Hardly.

I just know that money is the root of all evil.

Funny how so many jump that direction so fast though....

I guess it's either 'this' or it's 'that' with some people.

And if you don't think that capitalism passed democracy a long time ago, you're either naive or just stupid.

What does this even mean? Capitalism is the reason we still have a democracy.

 

[Stash]

Iran is fine if you do not mind women being basically property.

I'm out then.

I have a ton of respect for women and everything they do.

 

[peplaw06]

Yeah, put justice and democracy ahead of capitalism for one.

I'll assume you mean that money can buy you a verdict?? Trust me no amount of money can change the facts.

And you do know justice and democracy go both ways, right?

 

[burmafrd]

Its the LOVE of money that is the root of great evil.
Blaming the money for what people do for it is like the idiots that blame guns instead of the people that pull the trigger.

 

[burmafrd]

OJ had enough money to buy lawyers that got him off.

 

[theogt]

I'm out then.

I have a ton of respect for women and everything they do.

Like cooking, cleaning, and making babies, right?

 

[peplaw06]

OJ had enough money to buy lawyers that got him off.

They didn't change the facts of the case. They were just much better than the prosecutors.

 

[Stash]

I'll assume you mean that money can buy you a verdict?? Trust me no amount of money can change the facts.

I don't know, let's ask OJ.

And you do know justice and democracy go both ways, right?

I know that the American legal system is infested with people more interested in money than justice.

I know people with the most financial resources can retain the best legal teams.

I know lawyers don't work for free. (More like 40%)

I know that much.

Keep in mind that I'm not attacking anyone personally here, just giving my opinion of our current legal system.

 

[theogt]

OJ had enough money to buy lawyers that got him off.

OJ was fortunate enough to have been arrested (and investigated) by incompetent law enforcement. Money didn't change that.

 

[Stash]

Like cooking, cleaning, and making babies, right?

I guess it's OK for you to speak for me, right?

Unbiased.

We can go in-depth on this topic if you'd like as well.

I'll just say I'm big on equality and leave it at that.

 

[burmafrd]

That is where you miss the point OGT. OJ killed those people. ANd he got away with it. YOu can whine and cry about reasonable doubt and everything else in the system YOU worship. But when a murderer gets away with it where is the JUSTICE.
We have a legal system now= NOT a justice system. Truth does not matter.
Its all about the stage that is the courtroom and the performers which are the DA and Defense Attorney. Its all about who performs better then trying to punish the guilty and free the innocent. And that IDIOT that once said better 1000 guilty go free rather then ONE innocent man go to jail never gave a DAMN about all the INNOCENT victims that will fall prey to that 1000.

 

[peplaw06]

That is where you miss the point OGT. OJ killed those people. ANd he got away with it. YOu can whine and cry about reasonable doubt and everything else in the system YOU worship. But when a murderer gets away with it where is the JUSTICE.
We have a legal system now= NOT a justice system. Truth does not matter.
Its all about the stage that is the courtroom and the performers which are the DA and Defense Attorney. Its all about who performs better then trying to punish the guilty and free the innocent. And that IDIOT that once said better 1000 guilty go free rather then ONE innocent man go to jail never gave a DAMN about all the INNOCENT victims that will fall prey to that 1000.

He may have. But the whole case was a fiasco from start to finish. From the investigators to the prosecutors. They tripped over themselves the whole way. If you want to blame someone, that's fine, but don't blame the defense attorneys for doing their job.

And BTW, damning the entire legal system because of one case is pretty weak. You never addressed my point in the other thread, but here it is again...

95% of all cases EVER filed in a court system are settled. That means that both sides come to an agreement that they think is good enough for them. So 95% of the cases, both sides are in agreement.

The rest -- 5% remember -- go to court and are actually litigated to a ruling, some by a jury, some by a judge. Out of that 5%, you can cite a handful of cases where, in your opinion, a wrong ruling resulted. OJ (the favorite fall back of critics of the justice system), Michael Jackson, then I'm sure you feel a few Supreme Court or Appellate Court cases have been wrongly decided.

Obviously these courts have made mistakes, evident in the ones that have been overturned. I'm sure some cases that are currently precedent will be overruled in the future. But out of ALL of the cases that are filed, I assure you it is a small majority. Even smaller than 10%.

So in a justice system where millions of cases have been filed, 95% settle. Based on that figure alone, I would say that is successful. The number of cases you cite that may have, again in your opinion, wrong decisions is probably 1-2% of the total cases ever filed in the justice system. Name me another industry that is wrong 1-2% of the time?