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BigDave95;2011086 said:
Then you either aren't listening or you're already wearing the PacMan jersey and only hearing what you want to.

Read the independent reports from all the "journalists" (term used lightly for McMahon) and see which of us they agree with.
LOL. Most of what he was denying was the "journalists" reports of what happened.
 

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WoodysGirl;2011087 said:
Re: this interview

It's really very simple.

Those who didn't like him probably heard very little to change their mind.
Probably you're right for the most part... But actually, I was vehemently against this before, and I think he's changed my mind a little. I'd at least seriously think about it now.

The thing is, one interview isn't enough to know. I'm sure Jerry has teams of PI's investigating his past. If we had that kind of info, we could make a lot better decision.

But I do think he's shown some signs of remorse and desire to change.
 

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miamicowboy21;2011085 said:
The problem with jones is that he's a follower and not a leader. Keith bullock said he's a great guy, but he's influenced by others to quickly. If he comes to dallas someone is going to have to be on top of him every minute.

I think you're right.

We'd have to see if hanging with guys like Ware, MBIII, Ratliff, Newman, etc. would have a positive influence or not. I'm not sure if PacMan could clean up his act enough - or not. It's definitely a risk.

But as long as we can cut our losses without bleeding, I think we should try it.
 

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WoodysGirl;2011087 said:
Re: this interview

It's really very simple.

Those who didn't like him probably heard very little to change their mind.

Those who don't necessarily like him, but aren't concerned about him being on the team, probably heard just enough to think he's changed or at least is capable of changing.

And then you have me. Those who really don't care and wish the two teams could hurry up and consummate the trade so we can discuss something else.

I wanted to trade for him before the interview.

I want to trade for him now.

I think his people prepared him well for the interview and some sheep are only hearing those talking points and not listening to what he's really saying.


I think the best thing that could happen to the kid is getting traded to the Cowboys and getting to work with the great Calvin Hill. That would improve his life. Calvin can keep him clean and on the field...so sign him up.
 

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Woods;2011090 said:
I don't have any problems with Goodell trying to keep the NFL clean, but what gets me is how he "conveniently" gets rid of the tapes, doesn't really own up to what happened with the Pats, etc.

I honestly don't think Goodell has been truthful with his dealings regarding the spygate.

I don't think anybody on here would take it too well if their own company is baby-sitting them outside of work, telling them they can't go to strip clubs and parties...

The fact is, even the court system has cleared Pac-man, so Goodell has no business suspending him... If Vick was found not-guilty, would it be right to continue to suspend him? The limits should be on whether he has any pending cases or not...
 

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WoodysGirl;2011087 said:
Re: this interview

It's really very simple.

Those who didn't like him probably heard very little to change their mind.

Those who don't necessarily like him, but aren't concerned about him being on the team, probably heard just enough to think he's changed or at least is capable of changing.

And then you have me. Those who really don't care and wish the two teams could hurry up and consummate the trade so we can discuss something else.


Period.. Point Blank.

:)
 

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I know he hasn't admitted a whole lot, but than again would you if none of the charges really stuck???
He seems like a kid just mixed up with the wrong group of people and sometimes tries a little too hard to impress them. The best thing that can happen to PacMan is to leave those dirt bags behind, come to Dallas live with Calvin Hill for awhile and hang with guys like TNEW and Ware.
 

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speedkilz88;2011092 said:
And from what I've read Senator Specter doesn't either.

While I'm venting a bit, what also really pisses me off his how Wade Wilson gets repremanded, yet Goodell seemingly gets away with sweeping his mess under the rug.

It's just not equal treatment, IMO.
 

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WoodysGirl;2010915 said:
Playmaker's about to fire some fastballs

11:54 AM Tue, Mar 25, 2008 | Permalink
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The first hour of the Michael Irvin Show was spent discussing Pacman Jones' background. They'll go over his many off-field incidents in the next hour.

Pacman recalled telling his counselor that, "It ain't no sin to go to the strip club." Irvin pointed out that it was actually a sin, just not against the law. And it's definitely not a good idea for a guy who is about to meet with Sheriff Goodell about his suspension.

But Pacman found his way to a topless joint in New York the night before meeting with Goodell. What the heck was he thinking?

"It was a bad decision, period, point blank," Pacman said. "It was one of the dumbest decisions that I ever made."

Unfortunately, it really ranks pretty far down Pacman's list of dumb decisions. More on that to come in the next hour.


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What I was really waiting for
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Pacman Jones has said a whole bunch of things over the last few weeks. Finally, I think the magic words came out of his mouth ...

"I'd be really lucky to get another shot," he said.

That's a big one for him, I believe. It's Pacman saying that his talent alone does not give him the right to play in the league.

Another thing he addressed was his visit to a New York gentlemen's club on his trip to visit commissioner Roger Goodell last year.

"It was a bad decision," Jones said. "It was one of the dumbest decisions I've ever made. ... It's just not going to happen anymore."

As Timmy said, Pacman's playing his cards right here. Finally.


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Pacman's saying all the right things
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Pacman Jones' childhood is a sad story. His dad was murdered two doors down when he was 8 years old. His mom has fought drug addiction for years. The grandmother who raised him died when he was a freshman in college.

Michael Irvin had Pacman tell that tale.

Pacman has either been coached well on what to say today or finally gets it. He hasn't made any excuses for his horrible behavior and says to point the finger at him for his problems. He talked about having to separate himself from family members and childhood friends who have been his wingmen.

"It's getting to the point where it ain't no time for slip-ups right now," Pacman said. "It's like I'm on the cliff right now. One slip-up and it's off the cliff."


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CATCH17;2010930 said:
I honestly think this interview is hurting him even more.

You dont get in trouble that many times and are never guilty.

If he REALLY is innocent this many times then either way hes going to get in trouble because people are going to put stuff on him.


so you didn't read the serveral times where he said his actions are his own fault?
 

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BigDave95;2011098 said:
I wanted to trade for him before the interview.

I want to trade for him now.

I think his people prepared him well for the interview and some sheep are only hearing those talking points and not listening to what he's really saying.


I think the best thing that could happen to the kid is getting traded to the Cowboys and getting to work with the great Calvin Hill. That would improve his life. Calvin can keep him clean and on the field...so sign him up.
To me the best thing that could happen to him already did and that was when he said that he has been getting counseling for his anger management issues.
 

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As long as the contract protects the Cowboys and better the team, that is all I care about...

I just want the trade done, so I don't have to worry about:

1. Punt returns and field position
2. 3rd and long
 

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speedkilz88;2011104 said:
To me the best thing that could happen to him already did and that was when he said that he has been getting counseling for his anger management issues.

So if I understand correctly, drugs aren't really the "big" issue here. It's basically getting into trouble with "thug types", correct? It's the people he associates with.
 

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Woods;2011102 said:
While I'm venting a bit, what also really pisses me off his how Wade Wilson gets repremanded, yet Goodell seemingly gets away with sweeping his mess under the rug.

It's just not equal treatment, IMO.


Robert kraft's puppet is going to be speaking at SMU soon. Who wants to make signs and boo and heckle him? anyone? anyone?
 

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Woods;2011108 said:
So if I understand correctly, drugs aren't really the "big" issue here. It's basically getting into trouble with "thug types", correct? It's the people he associates with.

Yup...the worst drug he might have ever been associated with is weed...name me one kid who hasn't.
His real problems is the company he keeps....he needs to shake himself of them, otherwise the guy is doomed to fail.
 

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Woods;2011108 said:
So if I understand correctly, drugs aren't really the "big" issue here. It's basically getting into trouble with "thug types", correct? It's the people he associates with.

Exactly.......It's the leaches and the hangers-on who don't have his best intrest at heart. He has to rid himself of those influences.
 

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cleverusername;2011111 said:
Robert kraft's puppet is going to be speaking at SMU soon. Who wants to make signs and boo and heckle him? anyone? anyone?

Well, if I wasn't approximately 5,000 miles away . . . . :D
 

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Woods;2011108 said:
So if I understand correctly, drugs aren't really the "big" issue here. It's basically getting into trouble with "thug types", correct? It's the people he associates with.
Seems to be, the one thing I would like to know on the drugs is when he said that he was already in the league testing. Was that from one of the accusations of his drug use like when his mother had marijuana in the house he bought her or was he in the testing for something he did?
 

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WoodysGirl;2011087 said:
Re: this interview

It's really very simple.

Those who didn't like him probably heard very little to change their mind.

Those who don't necessarily like him, but aren't concerned about him being on the team, probably heard just enough to think he's changed or at least is capable of changing.

And then you have me. Those who really don't care and wish the two teams could hurry up and consummate the trade so we can discuss something else.

and i want the draft over so one way or another mcfadden talk dies down.

i don't like pacman. i hated TO. i thought TO would kill us all and he'd somehow wind up in the 4th quarter in 9'ers pants, an eagles jersey and no helmet on the 50 dancing on the star and we'd be the laughing stock of the league.

when he became a cowboy, i paid a lot more than "surface level" of attention on what went on around him and yes - he is a walking target. but he's not done a vast majority of what the PRESS said he's done - or at least to the degree reported.

saw it first hand here in dallas.

there simply is no risk in pacman except the loss of a 5th round pick. if he's really trying to make a difference in his own life, great. we've got a hell of a pickup cheap for a few years while he proves it. if not, great. cut him and move on, no $ lost in cap.

people just keep their own emotional shields up as if they're personally involved in this
 
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