Parcells not happy with Henson's NFLE performance

[RCowboyFan]

Hos, I agree with you on your point completely. But I looked at it in another way, too. If he comes out and says Henson is all great and is ready to play then that only creates pressure on his boy, Bledsoe, whether Henson is ready or not. He does not want to create any qb controversies where none exists. What do you think the press would do if he even hinted that he was happy with Henson's progress???

Bill said something at the first press conference that intrigued me. He said he had watched all but two of Henson's games in Europe. Why? If he has already written him off, why bother? Obviously he sees something or he wouldn't waste his time.

Anyway what difference does it make in the long run? Bill is probably only going to be here for this year and Bledsoe is going to play unless he is hurt and it won't matter who plays then. It only matters in future years and Jerry is NOT going to get rid of Henson.

Actually he said one not two. But you have remember he said just 4 weeks ago, that he saw improvement in Henson and didn't have any negative comment at that time. Now suddenly out of the blue he says something about not enough?

The thing is he wasn't even specific about what was that he expected? My personal feeling is, he is nipping something in the bud. Maybe Jerry is getting into one of those things where he might be pushing Henson for Starting job? Or maybe BP has seen too much positive press for Henson in NFLE? Or maybe BP really feels that Henson didn't show enough, as he said in his comments, whatever progress he wanted to see from him?

So there are possiblities and variations from what his comments mean to Henson. Either way, Henson will have TC to show his stuff. People jumping up and down about Henson being cut are being idiotic at best to instigators at worst.

It might be that Romo is the destined guy to be QB of the future. And if he shows that in Pre-season to us cowboys fans, then we should all be happy. Or if Henson proves he is not the guy, then we move on too. Till then its futile talk.

 

[iceberg]

But wait, Henson is this team's future, the organization is crazy about him, and he can do no wrong, even while playing very average football against guys who have no business playing football at ANY pro level.

you take positive henson news and discredit it.
you take negative henson news and skywrite it across the world.

you can't see the world for what it is vs. have to have it fit your already existing view.

graney.

 

[The30YardSlant]

you take positive henson news and discredit it.
you take negative henson news and skywrite it across the world.

you can't see the world for what it is vs. have to have it fit your already existing view.

graney.

Henson is not an NFL QB. Saying that he is over and over and over again does not make it so.

BTW, what is this "positive" Henson news of which you speak? He hasnt done much in the positive department.

 

[iceberg]

Henson is not an NFL QB. Saying that he is over and over and over again does not make it so.

BTW, what is this "positive" Henson news of which you speak? He hasnt done much in the positive department.

according to you he never has. but mike, i'm not taking that bait anymore. i made my rule to ignore your requests for info cause you just laugh at 'em, say they're useless then post your own useless info as viable simply cause it's your viewpoint.

 

[The30YardSlant]

according to you he never has. but mike, i'm not taking that bait anymore. i made my rule to ignore your requests for info cause you just laugh at 'em, say they're useless then post your own useless info as viable simply cause it's your viewpoint.

In other words, you got nothing

Good to know

Believe it or not, you hardly provide the most riveting discourse on the internet, either

 

[iceberg]

In other words, you got nothing

Good to know

Believe it or not, you hardly provide the most riveting discourse on the internet, either

when *nothing* will make a difference to you - you know, the person who'll take a bad henson game and compare it to a good romo game in pre-season and "call it over" - then it does me no good to *try* to talk to you, graney.

so *i* nor *anyone* has *anything* that you'd read and give honest thought of crediblity to - it's more your job to shut down any and all positive henson news at all costs. you do it well, but let's not pretend objectivity is even in your vocabulary, ok?

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Can anybody here post an article, qoutes or anything speaking positively about Henson, from team officials, beat writers or columnists?

 

[iceberg]

Can anybody here post an article, qoutes or anything speaking positively about Henson, from team officials, beat writers or columnists?

we out of argument fodder?

 

[The30YardSlant]

when *nothing* will make a difference to you - you know, the person who'll take a bad henson game and compare it to a good romo game in pre-season and "call it over" - then it does me no good to *try* to talk to you, graney.

so *i* nor *anyone* has *anything* that you'd read and give honest thought of crediblity to - it's more your job to shut down any and all positive henson news at all costs. you do it well, but let's not pretend objectivity is even in your vocabulary, ok?

Again, drawing attention away from the issue at hand. I've provided stats, recorded statistical evidence that Romo has improved over the last 2 years, whereas Henson as digressed. You have called me graney a couple of times and put a bunch of words in **.

Again, with every post it's becoming more and more obvious that you simply HOPE henson is a good player, have no support for this claim, and because the facts dont agree with that claim either, you resort to telling me how insignifigant my thoughts are.

Again, I'm sitting here stating you have nothing and are just bull****ing your way around the issue at hand. If you wish to prove me wrong, post something, ANYTHING, that stakes your claim that henson is an NFL caliber player. If not, then there's no need for you to post anymore, after all, I dont have anything worth reading, right?

 

[The30YardSlant]

Can anybody here post an article, qoutes or anything speaking positively about Henson, from team officials, beat writers or columnists?

The fact that they cant speaks volumes.

 

[iceberg]

The fact that they cant speaks volumes.

we can - you'll just dismiss it.

it's been proven and now you're just mad no one is playing your game anymore.

 

[The30YardSlant]

we can - you'll just dismiss it.

it's been proven and now you're just mad no one is playing your game anymore.

I'm mad because it's blatantly obvious that you have no point to be made? I'm mad because with every post where you claim you have all this evidence, yet refuse to post it, furthers my point that you are lying out of your *** and have nothing?

Again, if you have evidence, post it. If not, stop running your mouth about how you have all this proof of Henson's greatness, because you obviously dont. If it's valid, then we can talk. If it's a scouting report out of Michigan or some article from an ESPN anaylist from 3 years ago, then yes, I will dimiss it.

 

[adbutcher]

No different than Skyler Green or Montavious Stanley being told they are too fat.

He doesn't want the players to be comfortable. He wants them to be pushing themselves.

Why that isn't obvious to everyone is beyond me.

 

[iceberg]

I'm mad because it's blatantly obvious that you have no point to be made? I'm mad because with every post where you claim you have all this evidence, yet refuse to post it, furthers my point that you are lying out of your *** and have nothing?

Again, if you have evidence, post it. If not, stop running your mouth about how you have all this proof of Henson's greatness, because you obviously dont. If it's valid, then we can talk. If it's a scouting report out of Michigan or some article from an ESPN anaylist from 3 years ago, then yes, I will dimiss it.

i've made my point - but as usual you're just not smart enough to get it.

free clue time - my point was you bulldog how you feel and won't allow a piece of positive news to get through unscathed, NOT whether henson is a good qb or not.

 

[The30YardSlant]

i've made my point - but as usual you're just not smart enough to get it.

free clue time - my point was you bulldog how you feel and won't allow a piece of positive news to get through unscathed, NOT whether henson is a good qb or not.

Speaking of free clues: If you didnt think Henson was a good QB, or at least had the potential to be one, we wouldnt be having this discussion.

And BTW, no matter how many different ways you insult me or my intelligence, it wont change the fact that you are making a fool of yourself by stating you have this great mass of knowledge as to how and why Henson will be a great QB, yet refuse to post it.

 

[iceberg]

Speaking of free clues: If you didnt think Henson was a good QB, or at least had the potential to be one, we wouldnt be having this discussion.

And BTW, no matter how many different ways you insult me or my intelligence, it wont change the fact that you are making a fool of yourself by stating you have this great mass of knowledge as to how and why Henson will be a great QB, yet refuse to post it.

heh - please show me where i said i had it. let's begin there and not with what you make up along the way. the fact you're asking for it *still* shows me you missed my point, and restatement of my point, entirely.

now - show me my post where i said this. and yes - there's irony in this post on my part too, but hh misses it - which is kinda funny too.

 

[The30YardSlant]

heh - please show me where i said i had it. let's begin there and not with what you make up along the way. the fact you're asking for it *still* shows me you missed my point, and restatement of my point, entirely.

now - show me my post where i said this. and yes - there's irony in this post on my part too, but hh misses it - which is kinda funny too.

we can - you'll just dismiss it.

The joke seems to be on you. Now, if you please, show us all this information that you, in your own words, "can", in fact, post. The only irony here is a classic case of the pot calling the kettle a black kitchen apliance.

 

[Jarv]

But wait, Henson is this team's future, the organization is crazy about him, and he can do no wrong, even while playing very average football against guys who have no business playing football at ANY pro level.

You want to elaborate about that ? NFLE is pro-level football, which means they get payed to play by the way. So is arena football, so is the CFL.

Those leauges don't have the talent level of the NFL of course, but it is still Pro ball.

10-3 TD/INT ratio and any 84.2 QB rating (both better than Bledsoes #'s in the NFL last year, by the way) is above average play. Just in case you were not aware of that.

Of course like you I think Bledsoe (Ranked 17th in QB rating last year)
http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/PRAT/2005/regular
is just and average QB (So Hensons stats being better than Bledsoes would put him better than average too).



Henson, playing among peers in NFLE is playing above average and according to NFLE stats Henson was ranked 2nd (To a 3 year NFLE vet, compared to Henson being a rookie player in NFLE) out of 6 QB's. Ranked 2nd out of 6, by the way is termed being above average.

http://www.nfleurope.com/stats/leaders

So, in a leauge with a lower level of talent Henson put up better numbers than Bledsoe did in the NFL.

How will that translate into the NFL is yet to be seen. Like a baseball player that puts up better than average stats in AAA baseball moves to the big leauges...Henson is now getting his chance.

But, to my original point here is just to let you know...AAA baseball, NFLE, CFL are all professional sports as much as you would like to deny them.

Of course since you don't play minor leauge professional sports you might not know this. but I'm sure you could google this and find out its true.

I'm sure there are quite a few guys who played in NFLE that would tell you themselves face to face also, if you were given the opportunity.

 

[J-DOG]

Parcells also said Henson is far better off than he was last season because he got that playing experience. His performance in NFL Europe is irrelevant. His role this season will be determined entirely by what happens between now and September.

Agree.
Look at what Delhomme and Brad Johnson did in NFL Europe.
Those guys were not seen as anything special after playing over there.
You can't make a judgement either good or bad from Henson's Euro experience.
However he did get some experience of getting on the field in competitive situations.

 

[theogt]

If you watched the Henson NFLE games you know he played with the worst OL in the history of football. He may not have been playing against NFL talent, but he certainly wasn't playing with NFL talent. That argument is a wash.

In the end, the only thing NFLE can show you is if a guy simply cannot play at NFL levels.