Parcells on the Haynesworth / Gurode incident

[Hostile]

WHat's obtuse about it?

Gurode was the victim of a crime. Whether it ever goes to legal channels is doubtful, but the bottom line is he was willfully assaulted.

There is no question here. The players coach said it was wrong. The team's fans have been admirably vocal about it being wrong. The player himself has said it was wrong. There is no controversy that what Haynesworth did was wrong.

What exactly are you looking for here? Some redundant comment from Bill that stomping Gurode's face was wrong? We know that. Everyone knows that.

I'm sure Bill went over to Gurode personnally to make sure he is ok. What more are you really looking for here?

You're sure of that? How can you say that? He said he didn't know any details. He lied?

 

[Hostile]

I'd rather Parcells say nothing than cry about it like he was Vermeil

Parcells is concentrating on next week, not on some nobody punk who got man-handled all game by his player

What in the blue hell does Vermiel have to do with it?

 

[Hailmary]

What would be so awful about BP taking this issue to the media.

Extended media coverage may pressure the league to punish Haynseworth to the fullest. In this case, I think BP should throw his weight around some.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

What in the blue hell does Vermiel have to do with it?

nothing, just stating that I don't want Parcells to be pulling a Vermeil over this incident, and that I'd rather he be somewhat mute on the issue

btw, the 2nd part of my post is what I want everyone to think about

 

[Hostile]

What would be so awful about BP taking this issue to the media.

Extended media coverage may pressure the league to punish Haynseworth to the fullest. In this case, I think BP should throw his weight around some.

Apparently is serves "no purpose." Not my words and I don't agree at all.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

What would be so awful about BP taking this issue to the media.

Extended media coverage may pressure the league to punish Haynseworth to the fullest. In this case, I think BP should throw his weight around some.

the NFL rules committee is really harsh, remember Ware just got fined 7500 for bumping into Brunell, they don't need Bill to help them out

 

[theogt]

Are you maintaining it would hurt Gurode?

That seems to be the stance some of you are taking. There's no benefit of a Head Coach speaking up for his player? How you can even come to that conclusion is beyond me.

Parcells refusing to join the media circus over TO was funny. That was flat out funny.

This wasn't. If he truly knew nothing about what happned to his player then he's the dumbest man who has ever been dubbed a genius. That's a cop out.

Ok, there's two things we know.

1. Parcells is more informed than he often lets on.

2. Parcells has many times before expressed his fondness for Gurode.

I very seriously doubt Gurode is upset, or even had the thought cross his mind.

 

[Hostile]

nothing, just stating that I don't want Parcells to be pulling a Vermeil over this incident, and that I'd rather he be somewhat mute on the issue

btw, the 2nd part of my post is what I want everyone to think about

Please point out where anyone said they wanted him to act like Vermiel then. I sure don't see it.

 

[Hailmary]

Concerned about what?

The player got a bunch of stitches, but other that than will probably play next week.

If Drew Bledsoe gets mugged tomorrow in a dark alley, is it mandatory that Bill Parcells issues a statement that "Mugging is bad!" ? Will Drew feel slighted if he doesnt?

Or he could've suffered serious vision impairment had it been a few inches lower.

 

[theogt]

Apparently is serves "no purpose." Not my words and I don't agree at all.

In disciplining Haynesworth, you're absolutely right. He serves no purpose.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

What would be so awful about BP taking this issue to the media.

Extended media coverage may pressure the league to punish Haynseworth to the fullest. In this case, I think BP should throw his weight around some.

Well, in the pc tomorrow he might do just that if he feels it's not being addressed correctly.

 

[wileedog]

You're sure of that? How can you say that? He said he didn't know any details. He lied?

And I'm the one being obtuse.

 

[Hostile]

Ok, there's two things we know.

1. Parcells is more informed than he often lets on.

2. Parcells has many times before expressed his fondness for Gurode.

I very seriously doubt Gurode is upset, or even had the thought cross his mind.

Really? Isn't that exactly what I am maintaining?

 

[rexrobinson]

Apparently is serves "no purpose." Not my words and I don't agree at all.

I really do think it is just how the NFL front office has contitioned him not to comment on things that are under review by them...

seriously he backs off and says "no comment" a LOT when it comes to things the NFL front office has under review or if it is about a judgement call made by them.

I can see why he wouldn't say anything because of that but I do agree, especially coming from such an emotional type of coach, that he would of said something like...it was unfortunate and I am glad Gurode is alright at the very least.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Please point out where anyone said they wanted him to act like Vermiel then. I sure don't see it.

:bang2:

I'm just giving my 2 cents on the issue, it's not directed at anyone in particular, good God

 

[theogt]

Really? Isn't that exactly what I am maintaining?

Yes, but that's not all you're maintaining, and that's certainly not what is drawing the ire of so many posters. I'm not sure anyone is even contesting that Parcells knows less.

 

[Hostile]

And I'm the one being obtuse.

See how that works?

You made an assumption that Parcells own words dispute. Are do you disagree with that too? Because I'm pretty sure we can show that he said he had no details.

FWIW, I have not been classifying this incident as a crime, so the crime angle isn't my argument.

 

[peplaw06]

Are you maintaining it would hurt Gurode?

That seems to be the stance some of you are taking. There's no benefit of a Head Coach speaking up for his player? How you can even come to that conclusion is beyond me.

Parcells refusing to join the media circus over TO was funny. That was flat out funny.

This wasn't. If he truly knew nothing about what happned to his player then he's the dumbest man who has ever been dubbed a genius. That's a cop out.

Sorry Hos you're reaching this time. Just because I say IMO addressing it doesn't help Gurode, doesn't mean that it hurts Gurode if BP doesn't address it. I really don't think players put much stock in what is reported in the media. I definitely don't see Gurode's feelings being hurt if BP doesn't address it.

 

[Hostile]

In disciplining Haynesworth, you're absolutely right. He serves no purpose.

Again, look up, because it is apparently doing a fly by that I have not once, ever said it was about Parcells disciplining Haynesworth.

Zero, zip, nada.

 

[WV Cowboy]

If Parcells mentions it in the media, that will be fine, but if he doesn't, it won't change our chances of beating the Iggles next week.

Which is all Parcells is thinking about probably.

Parcells doesn't need to say a word and I guarantee it will be dealt with.