Parcells on the Haynesworth / Gurode incident

[WoodysGirl]

Fair enough.

The least he could have done is say a simple, "there's no room for that in football. Our team will be addressing this."

I don't have a problem with your statement and wanting Parcells to say something along those lines. I just don't have as much of an issue with him NOT saying it. In the sense that I think he wants to gather all relevant evidence before speaking about it...one way or the other.

You don't want your coach going off half-cocked and then find out Gurode gave him a knuckleball sometime during the game which led to the incident.

 

[Hostile]

Sorry guys, I just don't agree on this one.

1) We don't know what BP said to Gurode behind closed doors.

2) I don't think BP needs to address it. From what I've read, Fisher told BP "If the league doesn't so something about Haynesworth, I will." Fisher knows that what his player did was wrong. BP knows that.

In this instance, I liken it to a parent disciplining his kids. Haynesworth will be disciplined by his coach or the league. It's not BP's job to discipline or chide Haynesworth for his actions. It's like most parents say, I'll discipline my kids, you worry about your own.

If BP came out and said something, that would say to me that he doesn't believe that Fisher will take care of it. I'm pretty sure Fisher will do what needs to be done.

3) What is BP gonna say? He's taking the high road. Hell Haynesworth himself even said he was in the wrong. Is BP just gonna echo that sentiment? Is that gonna make you happy? Or do you want him to go on a tirade, ripping him up and down in the media? What purpose will that serve?

Some things you just don't take to the media. I trust Fisher to take care of the guy, and I bet BP does too. I won't fault BP if he doesn't address it at all. That said, I'm sure he'll be asked the question, and I figure he won't want to get into it... or he may say, Gurode's okay, Fisher has it under control.

I'm rambling, but my main point is Fisher will handle it. BP doesn't discipline other people's kids. He doesn't like to get into what other teams should/shouldn't do. And I think the type of response you're looking for would be just that.

You're not listening. I'm not asking him to discipline Haynesworth. I'm asking him to stick up for his player. There's a huge difference.

 

[Chuck 54]

You know what...the circus that surrounds that fat manbreasted coach makes me just as sick as the circus around T.O.

The world doesn't revolve around either guy...we won a game, a guy got an unsportsmanlike penalty and will face a standard NFL suspension for making a poor decision.

Who gives a crap what Parcells thinks about it? What a stupid question, like we don't already know how everyone in the world feels about it, including Haynesworth. You guys and gals act like someone just body slammed your QB on purpose to get him out for the season or put a Buddy Ryanesque bounty out on your player...get over it.

How the hell do we get a thread this long dedicated to what a old fat man who dyes his hair yellow did or did not say about an on-the-field football incident and penalty?

This is not even close to the worst thing to ever happen on a football field.

 

[CowboyPrincess]

dont come with something weak like that..its not like parcells hasnt ever told the media to go F themselves when asking too many question..but some sort of mention on it would have been appropriate

Yeah and he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

People crucify him when he acts like an ape and then when he chills out and wants to get facts he is crucified as not acting appropriately.

I'm with LTN on this one... If he doesn't say something tomorrow I will be upset as a fan that wants to be in the know. But I'm giving him time to see the play and see the reactions by the league so that he will respond correctly.

I can't believe that I'm defending BP so hard on this. Ask LTN, I'm not exactly a BP fan

check please

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Jeff Fisher had an opinion. How is it he can make a statement but Parcelsl can't?

Hmm.

Sorry, it's an excuse for ineptness and callousness and I don't accept it.

Come on, TH. You can't really think Bill is callous towards the well being of his players. I bet he wanted to beat the thug's head in with a tire iron too.

But it's JEFF'S 'problem' to handle, and player to discipline.
It's BILL's place to counsel his players and review the incident and its significance, and to give Dre his continued support where it counts most - developing his player physically and emotionally.

And based on what Collingsworth just said, the 'legal' repercussions might be another reason Bill kept mum on it for now.

We're not gonna agree on this, obviously. But I just don't see Bill's response as 'callous', or 'inept'.

 

[SultanOfSix]

I've been reading through this thread, and I honestly really don't see the big deal if Bill didn't say anything.

The act was disgusting by virtue of the fact that it was done. It's like telling people water is wet.

I would have never guessed there would be so many posts in such a thread disagreeing over whether he should have said something more specific and rebuking him for not doing so.

 

[peplaw06]

You're not listening. I'm not asking him to discipline Haynesworth. I'm asking him to stick up for his player. There's a huge difference.

The analogy still fits. If my kid acts up I don't want another parent going on and on about how stupid/bad/evil my kid is. I'll handle it. I don't need you to tell me how bad my kid is. I know it.

 

[Hostile]

I don't have a problem with your statement and wanting Parcells to say something along those lines. I just don't have as much of an issue with him NOT saying it. In the sense that I think he wants to gather all relevant evidence before speaking about it...one way or the other.

You don't want your coach going off half-cocked and then find out Gurode gave him a knuckleball sometime during the game which led to the incident.

Let me ask you a question then. You're an O-lineman Free Agent in 2007. In the space of one week you've seen the Head Coach of the Cowboys say he's uninformed about a "potential suicide attempt by one of hsi players" and "unaware of the circumstances about an injury to one of your players" in the same week.

How high is Dallas on your visit and see list?

 

[LaTunaNostra]

How the hell do we get a thread this long dedicated to what a old fat man who dyes his hair yellow did or did not say about an on-the-field football incident and penalty?

This is how we celebrate a resounding win, Wayne.

 

[Hostile]

The analogy still fits. If my kid acts up I don't want another parent going on and on about how stupid/bad/evil my kid is. I'll handle it. I don't need you to tell me how bad my kid is. I know it.

Apples and oranges. I doubt the press is asking me for my take.

 

[peplaw06]

Apples and oranges. I doubt the press is asking me for my take.

Then why are you expecting BP to give us his take? Nevermind I gotcha...

But would you expect any other coach to address this, or just BP?

 

[wileedog]

I don't believe you, but okay. If that's the stance you'll stand behind, that's the stance you'll stand behind.

Yeah, I'm lying for no apparent reason.

A player on the other team pulled a complete and total bonehead move. Sucks I got hurt, and I'm pretty pissed at that player. How exactly does Bill saying a rather pedestrian and cliched "There is no room for that in football" make that better?

If he doesn't say it, how does that somehow translate to me that even though Bill has given me chance after chance for the past 4 years despite my often totally inconsistent play and even signing me to a 1 year extensions despite said inconsistent play, that he doesn't "believe" in me, or is "not in my corner."?

IMO there is nothing to "stand up for." I really don't even understand the point of this thread.

 

[rexrobinson]

I am sure Parcells does not want to influence what the NFL will do.

He seems to be gun shy when it comes to making judgement against the NFL Front Office or speculating on anything they may do.

 

[Hostile]

What is this a friggin soap opera?

Should Bill send tapes to the league office like the Whiner In Chief over in Washiington?

Did I say that? Uh, that would be a very loud "NO!"

I said he could comment about the act or about his player rather than act like he had no friggin' clue.

There's a huge difference.

 

[WoodysGirl]

You know what...the circus that surrounds that fat manbreasted coach makes me just as sick as the circus around T.O.

The world doesn't revolve around either guy...we won a game, a guy got an unsportsmanlike penalty and will face a standard NFL suspension for making a poor decision.

Who gives a crap what Parcells thinks about it? What a stupid question, like we don't already know how everyone in the world feels about it, including Haynesworth. You guys and gals act like someone just body slammed your QB on purpose to get him out for the season or put a Buddy Ryanesque bounty out on your player...get over it.

How the hell do we get a thread this long dedicated to what a old fat man who dyes his hair yellow did or did not say about an on-the-field football incident and penalty?

This is not even close to the worst thing to ever happen on a football field.

For the same reason we get weekly threads debating the stats of Merriman and Ware. They're all useless topics in the grand scheme of things, but they're good for discussion.

 

[iceberg]

Then why are you expecting BP to give us his take? Nevermind I gotcha...

But would you expect any other coach to address this, or just BP?

i would expect a coach to simply help with the team concept and stand by it. he coulda said "we're going to look into it and we'll talk when we know more" vs. 'duh, i saw nuttin...' which yes, is getting old.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

I hope the Extremeskins crowd isn't reading this thread.

They'll have ammo for life.

 

[Hostile]

Yeah, I'm lying for no apparent reason.

A player on the other team pulled a complete and total bonehead move. Sucks I got hurt, and I'm pretty pissed at that player. How exactly does Bill saying a rather pedestrian and cliched "There is no room for that in football" make that better?

If he doesn't say it, how does that somehow translate to me that even though Bill has given me chance after chance for the past 4 years despite my often totally inconsistent play and even signing me to a 1 year extensions despite said inconsistent play, that he doesn't "believe" in me, or is "not in my corner."?

IMO there is nothing to "stand up for." I really don't even understand the point of this thread.

I didn't say you were lying. I said I don't believe you'd be that easy going about it.

 

[wileedog]

Did I say that? Uh, that would be a very loud "NO!"

I said he could comment about the act or about his player rather than act like he had no friggin' clue.

There's a huge difference.

Why? THat's what I honestly don't get.

Why?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I can see them going to Ed Werder right now at Valley Ranch for more breaking coverage. Then Mort will report more false information.

and Clayton will follow up telling us that Dallas is interested in Tim Couch

btw, can someone explain in detail what happened?