Part of the Dez Rolling Stones Article

[tyke1doe]

Nobody needs to sugar coat Irvin's record.

He is a big boy and knows what he did.

At least he isn't Lawrence Taylor.

That's not the point, though. The point is why do you even need to mention Irvin's name AT ALL?

Mr. Jones, I'm not going to be a criminal. I'm not going to be a criminal.

You don't even need to mention Michael Irvin UNLESS you're trying to pull on Mr. Jones' heart string by referencing someone he gave a chance who turned out to be great, just like you want the same chance.

It was calculated as it was unnecessary.

 

[WoodysGirl]

I'm way more interested in learning more about the Wells dealings. That sounds like a clusterfudge of bad business. Even if Wells was a 100% legit character, he had way too many fingers in Dez financial dealings. Now we see why Dez transitioned from him as a business advisor.

 

[tyke1doe]

If there is "way more to the story" than people think and Jay Glazer knows then why not report it? Another reporter trying to slander someone without having to be accountable for his words. These reporters are out of control.

"Way more to the story" may not be as bad as people think. The suggestion surrounding the "story" is that Dez did something bad. Jay Glazer may be saying it's actually not as bad as people think.

I remember reporting a story about a minister who was accused of beating his wife. At least, that's what she said in the police report. The minister was criticized mercilessly in the community and the press. But the back story wasn't the case at all. The minister took the car keys from his wife because she was intoxicated, but she wanted to drive the car. He struggled to get the keys from her; she got mad and had him arrested for domestic abuse.
Later, I found out she was bat crazy, had abused him physically, and he had enough of it and divorced her.

There was "way more to the story" than what was officially reported. But the minister didn't want to make a big deal about it so he let it go and moved on. He's remarried and is still pastoring a church today, even though his credibility took a hit.

 

[tyke1doe]

I'm way more interested in learning more about the Wells dealings. That sounds like a clusterfudge of bad business. Even if Wells was a 100% legit character, he had way too many fingers in Dez financial dealings. Now we see why Dez transitioned from him as a business advisor.

This is why players need to have some idea of business. Too many shady characters hang around these athletes. And if you're uneducated or if you're not fortunate enough to get with the right people, you get taken advantage of.
Happened to Marcus Dupree, Mike Tyson and countless other professional athletes.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

If there is "way more to the story" than people think and Jay Glazer knows then why not report it? Another reporter trying to slander someone without having to be accountable for his words. These reporters are out of control.

No actually his implication was that she's go a lot going on and he wouldn't get into it, meaning dez gets **** for that all the time still but he probably didn't do anything bad. Jeff Ireland wouldn't be shocked I guess is a third way to put it

 

[tyke1doe]

No actually his implication was that she's go a lot going on and he wouldn't get into it, meaning dez gets **** for that all the time still but he probably didn't do anything bad. Jeff Ireland wouldn't be shocked I guess is a third way to put it

I didn't get it at first, but now I get it. I'm kind of slow.

Seriously, though, sometimes, it's just not worth it - especially if it involves a family member. People are going to believe what they want to believe, so you don't even try to defend yourself. It's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

 

[BigStar]

We were worried about Roc Nation? We whsould have been worried about this shady "team sponsored" Wells character. Is it really a coincidence that JJ/Wells discovered this video during the year of negotiations for a multi year deal? JJ was trying to use Bryant's past to scare him into accepting below value. Glad Dez didn't fall for that set up. Was pretty transparent that it (video rumor) was a negotiating ploy produced by the FO, but this basically confirms those rumors. JJ would have known of this tape long beforehand but it now just comes up? HmmmKay.

 

[hornitosmonster]

Dez is beast on the field. In real life it is almost certain that he will end up broke shortly after his career is over.

 

[dbonham]

If you ever know anyone who is going to make it big in sports, advise them to have their money managed by a real firm. Schwab, Fidelity, Vanguard, what real people use. Their advisors only care about keeping your business, not hiding money in shell corporations or investing all your money in their nephew's restaurant.

 

[casmith07]

I'm way more interested in learning more about the Wells dealings. That sounds like a clusterfudge of bad business. Even if Wells was a 100% legit character, he had way too many fingers in Dez financial dealings. Now we see why Dez transitioned from him as a business advisor.

You can take the "even if" outta there...Wells is a shady dude.

 

[LandryFan]

If there is "way more to the story" than people think and Jay Glazer knows then why not report it? Another reporter trying to slander someone without having to be accountable for his words. These reporters are out of control.

Agreed. In a nutshell, there is no way that Glazer or anybody else that was not actually present could possibly know that there is "way more to the story". Just another example of media riff-raff throwing crap out there to put themselves in the public spotlight. I trust the media about as much as I trust lawyers and politicians...somewhere below zero.

 

[DEMARC0MURRAY29]

Dez completely disrespecting those that wore the Star before him

 

[LandryFan]

"Way more to the story" may not be as bad as people think. The suggestion surrounding the "story" is that Dez did something bad. Jay Glazer may be saying it's actually not as bad as people think.

I remember reporting a story about a minister who was accused of beating his wife. At least, that's what she said in the police report. The minister was criticized mercilessly in the community and the press. But the back story wasn't the case at all. The minister took the car keys from his wife because she was intoxicated, but she wanted to drive the car. He struggled to get the keys from her; she got mad and had him arrested for domestic abuse.
Later, I found out she was bat crazy, had abused him physically, and he had enough of it and divorced her.

There was "way more to the story" than what was officially reported. But the minister didn't want to make a big deal about it so he let it go and moved on. He's remarried and is still pastoring a church today, even though his credibility took a hit.

If Glazer was meaning to say that it wasn't as bad as people think, then he sure used poor phraseology to convey it. If I hear or read there's "way more to the story" in a report like this, I tend to think it's worse than we know.

 

[LandryFan]

Dez is beast on the field. In real life it is almost certain that he will end up broke shortly after his career is over.

I can see how you would think that. Call me nuts, but I think Dez is smarter than a lot of people give him credit for. IMO, the best thing Dez has going for him is that he knows he doesn't know it all and he's proactively trying to strengthen his short comings. No, I think that when the entire Dez story is written, a lot of people will be surprised by the ending. Again, JMO.

 

[erod]

We need to ease off all the defending of Michael Irvin.

Irvin is what he is, and we all love him for it in our own way. He's been caught up in countless scandals during and after his career, getting fired from jobs for all sorts of unsavory reasons. He's the classic addict, whether it comes to partying, his celebrity, his faith, his intensity. He knows only one way, and that's ALL the way ALL the time. Made him a great player, and a great guy some of the time, but a pretty bad guy at other times.

As far as Wells, no doubt he's a shady guy. But Dez has no recourse but this because Wells knows all the secrets and backstories. Obviously, Dez wanted to get ahead of this and get some shots in, but he's going to have to let it be. He's got $40+ million with to start over financially, so that he should.

 

[tyke1doe]

If Glazer was meaning to say that it wasn't as bad as people think, then he sure used poor phraseology to convey it. If I hear or read there's "way more to the story" in a report like this, I tend to think it's worse than we know.

Each of us interprets information differently. Maybe he's getting bits and pieces of an overall story and can't either confirm or deny. So he uses the phrase he did.

I believe there's a method to the phrasing, but maybe he was being cryptic on purpose. I don't know Jay Glazer, but I tend to think he's among the more credible "insiders."

But that's my opinion. And in these matters, when we don't have all the facts, either of us can be right.

 

[LandryFan]

Each of us interprets information differently. Maybe he's getting bits and pieces of an overall story and can't either confirm or deny. So he uses the phrase he did.

I believe there's a method to the phrasing, but maybe he was being cryptic on purpose. I don't know Jay Glazer, but I tend to think he's among the more credible "insiders."

But that's my opinion. And in these matters, when we don't have all the facts, either of us can be right.

Yes, sir...agree.

 

[Idgit]

Can he catch a football better than the other guys? Can he stay out of jail? Ok, then I'm good. I don't need to know about his issues at home or with his money manager. He's allowed to be as dysfunctional as he cares to be, or not, in his personal life. As long as nobody's getting hurt, it only matters to me that he delivers on Sundays.

 

[31smackdown]

Yeah.. I echo these Wells comments.. sounds like a guy taking advantage of his position for additional personal gain. I guess he felt $17K/month wasn't enough when there was other easy opportunity to take more for himself. Also if Jerry hired him I'm sure he was giving Jerry regular reports on what was going on to be used in any way Jerry would want. If Wells knew about the Walmart incident and there was a police report he obviously would need to tell Jerry. Every full time security person or caretaker knows some "dirt" on the person they are managing, but usually there are clauses to prevent them from talking about it. The more concerning thing is really the money manipulation and using Dez's money for personal payments outside of the contract. Wells statements are very in line with what people say when they are doing those things.. asking why he would need to do that, saying if you come after him he knows things you won't want heard, etc.. Glad he is gone and hope he stays far away from other players. He probably started out fine and then slowly corrupted over time as he saw opportunities to get things out of the deals by doing things to benefit him personally while still supplying the services. I would suspect his taxes, income and assets are all misrepresented through multiple shells.

 

[xwalker]

I'm glad Dez got his deal. Nothing good is going to come from this. Rolling Stone is basically a tabloid at this point.

Ask those UVA guys.

Now that whatever Dez told them (Rolling Stone) is in print people automatically believe all of it.

The Cowboys wanted him to be associated with Wells. If Wells was that bad I think the Cowboys would know about it. It's possible that somebody else (Roc Nation) is behind the smear campaign on Wells.

Dez did sign a contract with Wells and now Dez and Roc Nation don't want to honor the contract. It's in their interest to make Wells look like the bad guy.

Dez also got a lot of help from some group of people in creating his Brand X marketing and some people think the X idea came from someone in that group. Now Dez and Roc are screwing those people over also.